Karrar MBT l Updates, News & Discussion

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[Michael Corleone]

Not even that... We had a thread... But deleted !

**** it ... You can call it everything you want !

I don't care anymore...

Certainly not belittling your achievements. Anyways what's the specs?

 

[HannibalBarca]

LOL, for your information embargo is not over, no till 2021.

And Karrar is much better for Iran than any foreign acquired tanks.

Now not only we are able to upgrade our fleet of more than 500 T-72s to Karrar, we can now manufacture completely new Karrars, perhaps except the engine, which I believe there are already plans for a domestic engine.

Alternatively we can acquire engines from Russia.

Upgrading of existing T-72s and even manufacturing new Karrars will keep the production line busy for several years, untill that date we surely can prepare the infrastructure for production of tank engines.

Embargo.. what a joke... Iran refused the T-90 sell from RU... (S-300... forget it) so yeah they can buy if they want... so EMbargo my... .
Anyway T-72 platform is outdated... and the Upgrade comes form RU side... subsys and Gun... and engine . what a indegenious tank...

Certainly not belittling your achievements. Anyways what's the specs?

Same as a t-72 but with better subsys and remote gun... maybe a little more armor... "Maybe"

 

[PeeD]

Almost all subsystem from autoloader to gun are produced locally since the license production of the T-72S.

T-72 is as outdated as its the baseline for the strongest russian MBT, the T-90 as it is for the Karrar...

 

[arashkamangir]

That would be nothing more than a stop gap solution at best and it still wouldnt change the basic fact that your enemies/potential enemies have more modern tanks that outclass yours,I`m afraid that doing some basic upgrades on late cold war t72s isnt going to make them a match for leclercs,late model abrams and late model leopards and even an indigenous tank program will likely take the better part of a decade,assuming that the design is actually successful that is,before it would start to go into service so what are you going to do for that time period?.The sad fact of the matter is that irans armored forces are just like its airforce ie outdated,decrepit and badly in need of brand new modern equipment.

what on earth are you talking about? every battlefield relevant capability that any modern tank has this tank has. In the real battlefield, fire power matters ultimately in combination with strategy. This tank upgrade program is a very wise step toward addressing both of those. Conversion of existing T-72s to Karrar standard and expansion of stock would address the firepower quantity and quality. Development of new battlefield strategy using new technology relies on having tanks with modern capabilities such as Karrar's.

The next step should be development of Karrar Phase 2: (engine (it it hasn't been already upgraded), upgrading to 360 stabilized electro optical system, APS)

 

[MTN1917]

Embargo.. what a joke... Iran refused the T-90 sell from RU... (S-300... forget it) so yeah they can buy if they want... so EMbargo my... .
Anyway T-72 platform is outdated... and the Upgrade comes form RU side... subsys and Gun... and engine . what a indegenious tank...


Same as a t-72 but with better subsys and remote gun... maybe a little more armor... "Maybe"

You are terribly misinformed, S-300 was never on the sanction lists, Russia just refused to deliver it to Iran.

According to JCPOA(nuclear deal) arms sanctions will be lifted in five years, missile sanctions in eight, here you can educate yourself.
https://www.sipri.org/databases/embargoes/un_arms_embargoes/iran

So no major Arms imports for Iran till 2021.

What is your evidence that upgrades comes from Russia?

Not a single one of electronics upgrades on Karrar is Russian, from RCWS to FCS all are Iranians.

Also the main gun 2A46M has been in production in Iran for years and all other parts like turret, chasis and etc are built in Iran.

So Iran can manufacture the whole tank except the engine(for now)

T-72s upgraded to Karrar standard will be equipped with completely new turrets and new ERAs, so they are definitely much better protected than T72s

Completely new turrets similar to T90

T90 turret layout

 

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[HannibalBarca]

You are terribly misinformed, S-300 was never on the sanction lists, Russia just refused to deliver it to Iran.

According to JCPOA(nuclear deal) arms sanctions will be lifted in five years, missile sanctions in eight, here you can educate yourself.
https://www.sipri.org/databases/embargoes/un_arms_embargoes/iran

So no major Arms imports for Iran till 2021.

What is your evidence that upgrades comes from Russia?

Not a single one of electronics upgrades on Karrar is Russian, from RCWS to FCS all are Iranians.

Also the main gun 2A46M has been in production in Iran for years and all other parts like turret, chasis and etc are built in Iran.

So Iran can manufacture the whole tank except the engine(for now)

T-72s upgraded to Karrar standard will be equipped with completely new turrets and new ERAs, so they are definitely much better protected than T72s

Completely new turrets similar to T90
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T90 turret layout
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Yeah it's 100% indegenious... Anyway.

 

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Stop talking to the wall !

 

[Mark Pyruz]

So Iran can manufacture the whole tank except the engine(for now)

T-72s upgraded to Karrar standard will be equipped with a completely new turrets.

That's what this looks to be, an upgrade package that will extend life of existing stocks of T-72 through to duration of embargo, possibly beyond. (Dependent on IRIG funding, of course.)

As an upgrade, reminds me of latter Magach/Sabra series. Likewise, Karrar upgrade potentially marketable.

 

[SOHEIL]

That's what this looks to be, an upgrade package that will extend life of existing stocks of T-72 through to duration of embargo, possibly beyond. (Dependent on IRIG funding, of course.)

As an upgrade, reminds me of latter Magach/Sabra series. Likewise, Karrar upgrade potentially marketable.

It won't be just an upgrading program... Brand new tanks are also in production !

 

[BHarwana]

Tehran kicked off the mass production of a main battle tank called Karrar at a ceremony attended by Iran’s defense minister. The tank appears to have a design similar to Russia’s T-90MS.

Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan praised Iran’s new tank at the Sunday event, the Iranian media reported.

“The tank can compete with the most advanced tanks in the world in the three main areas of power, precision and mobility, as well as maintenance and durability in the battleground,” the minister said, as cited by Fars news agency.
Dehqan said the Karrar has advanced features like an electro-optical fire control system, a laser rangefinder, and a ballistic computer. It can also fire guided missiles.

The tank, first announced by Tehran in February of last year, has been touted as being as good as Russia’s T-90 MBT.

“The defense industry designed and built the battle tank from scratch. If not better, it’s still as deadly as the Russian T-90,” Dehqan said at the time.

The announcement came months after Iran suspended talks with Moscow on buying main battle tanks from Russia. Tehran said it was not interested in the deal unless technology sharing was included.

When the first images of the Iranian tank were made public in August of 2016, military experts said its design looks strikingly similar to that of the T-90MS, the export variant of Russia’s tank.
https://www.rt.com/news/380390-iran-karrar-tank-production/

 

[Nadhem Of Ibelin]

Yeah it's 100% indegenious... Anyway.

will you stop sticking your nose in very iranian thread and downplaying their achievements khoya

 

[MTN1917]

That's what this looks to be, an upgrade package that will extend life of existing stocks of T-72 through to duration of embargo, possibly beyond. (Dependent on IRIG funding, of course.)

As an upgrade, reminds me of latter Magach/Sabra series. Likewise, Karrar upgrade potentially marketable.

I believe that production of new tanks can't be ruled out, as Iran can acquire engines from Russia and even given time produce a domestic engine.

As I posted earlier all components(bar the engines) have been produced in Iran.

Although I believe that right now the priority will be the upgrading of the existing T-72S/M fleet.

Iran can start producing brand new Karrar when the whole fleet is upgraded(or.even sooner).