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Karnataka hijab verdict; implications all over the islamic world

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Why should Indian courts (or any other civilized courts anywhere in the world) base its judgment on whether (or not) something is essential (or not) as per islam? When did Indian courts start giving judgement based on what a religion mandates?

Only islamic courts should rule based on islam.

Are Indian courts islamic?

No.

Indian courts should simply provide more clarity on what is permitted (or not permitted) in 'uniform' of a private institute and/or Govt institute and/or religious institute.

If LGBT community forms a religion tomorrow and declares BIKINI as ESSENTIAL for MEN, will courts let MEN wear BIKINI in institutes? Or make it compulsory?
 
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Indian will be in bad situation, no one considers Indian Hindu court in interpreting Islamic verse LOL

Debate about the need of wearing hijab and the contra of it is not something new in Muslim world. No Muslim countries give importance on Hindu court.

Indonesia society, West Java


Presiden wife now use Hijab

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Indonesian potential leaders and their wife

1. Ganjar Pranowo ( Central Java Governor) and his wife

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2. Anies Baswedan (Jakarta Governor) with wife and kids

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3. Ridwan Kamil (West Java Governor) and his wife

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4. Sandiaga Uno (previous VP candidate in 2019 election and current minister under Jokowi administration) and his wife

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Indonesian elites wife

Presiden/VP/Parliament leader wife and local leaders (Governor and major) wife

2016 when Jokowi wife hasnt worn Hijab


Indonesian Air Force personnel wife

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Just an example of Army troops in one of Army base with their wife


Former Armed Force General, Wiranto, and his family

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Wiranto

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It's not prohibited nor is it prescribed....the girls with support of some muslim fundamentalist groups wanted to create chaos in society with the pretext of this hijab....and to show india in a bad light...
In india many colleges have prescribed uniform and it is mandatory for everyone to wear that uniform...no one regardless of their religion is allowed to flaunt religious symbols...crores of muslim girls all across india sit in classes without hijab ....the argument these girls made was hijab was essential part of islam and therefore they must be allowed to wear it.
Court heard their arguments and gave out a judgement saying it is not essential...now these islamists are crying from the roof top that the court gave an unfair judgement...all they have to do is present a verse from quran to prove what they are saying is right...instead they have become a source of animosity and hatred in the country.
They are not doing any favour to their community....there may come a time when people think twice before employing muslims in their offices as they create nuisance for every trivial thing...when you are living in a diverse country like india sometimes we have to make some compromises...not just muslims...all religious, and linguistic groups...only then can there be a peaceful coexistence.

There was no BJP in karnataka a few years ago(nor in any other southern state)..south indians in general are very tolerant people...muslim fundamentalism and congress appeasement politcs were what led to bjp's rise in karnataka...i am pretty sure after this hijab issue bjp will again come to power in karnataka next year...the next southern state that will fall for bjp will be telangana(next year)...muslims must realise the more fundamental, the more adamant they become , the stronger the bjp becomes which is not good for them in the long run.

It's what ultimately will save Muslims

Once they understand that BJP and Hindutva is a poison that Jinnah always warned them about, Indian Muslims and Hindus will sperate into their own areas

Areas of Hindus and and areas of Muslims will be created and ARE being created

Everyday the natural partition within India is occuring in front of us you can literally se it with your own eyes

This will then solidify into division
, Whether Hindutva/BJP gets elected or not
 
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Feed the damaged Hindu ego by humiliating Muslims and get votes. Simple formula. Right now no left-wing party in India speaks for Muslims because they lose votes.
 
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You are trying to debate with a Sanghi. He will now say that most rapes in India are committed by Muslim men

He tried teaching Muslims about the Quran, I hope he understands the message of Quran better now and will consider leaving the pagan ways and believe in the truth.
 
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He tried teaching Muslims about the Quran, I hope he understands the message of Quran better now and will consider leaving the pagan ways and believe in the truth.
I am an agnostic man..not a pagan nor a fool to believe in religions that are man made...
 
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Hindu men are jealous of Muslim men how come Hindu women don't obey their husbands and how come Muslim women obey their Husbands :D .

And this is why Hijab ban, as they don't want Muslim women also not to obey their husbands. This is the reality.
 
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I am an agnostic man..not a pagan nor a fool to believe in religions that are man made...

There are different stages a man goes through his life span, beliefs and understanding change. It is never the end until it is really the end.
 
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Precisely the reason why Indian court's decision can be called perfect as 2 out of the 3 judges are non muslims...they dont hold any bias towards any school of thought....all they see is quran...scholars of different fiqh in islam naturally take sides .

You try to sound like those judges are benevolent educated and neutral obsever while in reality we all know the judges are either placed there by RSS nazis or intimidated by them.

Dont come here and try to sound like hindus are some enlightened super intellectual bunch. Everything the we hear about Xinjiang Uighurs apply ten times over in India.

I am an agnostic man..not a pagan nor a fool to believe in religions that are man made...

You are a hindu, and believe in hindu supramecy. Foolin nobody here buddy…
 
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The Muslims of india are doing a great favour to the women of islamic world who are protesting against burkha and hijab...I am pretty sure Supreme Court will also deliver the same judgement as karnataka high court as there is no explicit mention of headscarf or burkha in quran. Karnataka high court gave some good citations to show how it came to the conclusion. Supreme court will do even deeper search and present the facts as they are...
This judgement will be quoted by liberals all across the world supporting their view that burkha or hijab doesnt form basic tenets of islam...India being the world's biggest democracy,the words spoken by its top court has a lot of value.

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, and not to reveal their adornments except what normally appears. Let them draw their veils over their chests, and not reveal their ˹hidden˺ adornments except to their husbands, their fathers, their fathers-in-law, their sons, their stepsons, their brothers, their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons, their fellow women, those ˹bondwomen˺ in their possession, male attendants with no desire, or children who are still unaware of women’s nakedness. Let them not stomp their feet, drawing attention to their hidden adornments. Turn to Allah in repentance all together, O believers, so that you may be successful. quran 24:31

I noticed some pakistani posters are saying that how can pagan judges decide what constitutes essential and what is not in Islam...only ulema can do so it seems. But quran says that its message is clear and perfect...

Alif-Lãm-Ra. ˹This is˺ a Book whose verses are well perfected and then fully explained. ˹It is˺ from the One ˹Who is˺ All-Wise, All-Aware.(quran 11:1)

And if someone says that only muslim scholars can understand quran they are going against word of allah.
And those people who are interpreting quranic verses to their convenience ,Allah says in Quran, are deviated.

It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them(Quran 3:7)

Beware pakistani posters...I know You will pounce on me and try to bring all kinds of hadees or material outside quran to prove that burkha and hijab are essential for muslim women(or misinterpret that quranic verse to suit their narrative like deviators mentioned in quran)...but before refuting me ,think twice...according to your belief you will stand in front of allah one day...you have to answer him in case you misinterpret quranic verses with the sole intention of refuting me.
Ok what if courts of Pakistan, UAE, KSA outlaw mangal suttar and sarree?? Wtf will you monkies do then?

Indian will be in bad situation, no one considers Indian Hindu court in interpreting Islamic verse LOL

Debate about the need of wearing hijab and the contra of it is not something new in Muslim world. No Muslim countries give importance on Hindu court.

Indonesia society, West Java


Presiden wife now use Hijab

View attachment 825716

Indonesian potential leaders and their wife

1. Ganjar Pranowo ( Central Java Governor) and his wife

View attachment 825717

2. Anies Baswedan (Jakarta Governor) with wife and kids

View attachment 825718

3. Ridwan Kamil (West Java Governor) and his wife

View attachment 825720

4. Sandiaga Uno (previous VP candidate in 2019 election and current minister under Jokowi administration) and his wife

View attachment 825721

Indonesian elites wife

Presiden/VP/Parliament leader wife and local leaders (Governor and major) wife

2016 when Jokowi wife hasnt worn Hijab


Indonesian Air Force personnel wife

View attachment 825723


Just an example of Army troops in one of Army base with their wife

Mashallah beautiful people and culture.
 
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