Karachi will remain hostage to PPP ruling? What is in it for us? What's our future in this province/country? TV Anchor to PSP Mustafa Kamal

[Meengla]

Such comments (referring to tv program) are a disappointment. This shows how successful MQM was in implanting the idea of parting away from Sindh/Pakistan as a convenient option for solving city-level issues. Surprised to see PPP being blamed alone without any mention of MQM from Karachites. They have an equal or infact a larger share of blame than PPP for the issues of the city. (I'm not a PPP supporter). And when people can let MQM go blameless despite the economic and esp human loss to the city then they should have a stomach for infrastructural issues too.

At least Mustafa Kamal is putting blame on MQM in his interview along with on PPP and even on PTI.
MQM has faced two massive operations against it and paid heavy price for its sins including expulsion and disgracing of the Haramkhor Altaf Hussein. MQM, as long it reasonably plays by the rules, is okay and should not be shunned. Most political parties, with the exception of Jamat e Islami, don't play by the rules. But such as it is. But if/when MQM was given resources they (and Jamat e Islami) did 'deliver' in Karachi. What has PPP been doing with literally TRILLIONS of Rupees given to it for Sindh?

We can't stay stuck in the past about various political parties. ANP was openly against Pakistan but then became part of various central govts. Various Baluch parties had been openly calling for Baluchistan's breakaway from Pakistan but the joined the ruling parties in both Baluchistan and Center. PTI wasn't clean with its political opportunism and anarchy via Dharnas... And PPP... is a party which if not given power in Sindh is ready to play The Sindh Card. Contrast to them, MQM's supporters are staunch Pakistanis; there is ZERO chances of Karachi breaking away from Pakistan. Not only the demographics are not the same as they were 2-3 decades ago but level of patriotism is very high.

 

[Gangetic]

Pakistan needs maybe 2-3 more provinces like South Punjab, Pothohar and Hazara (Hindkowans). This will split the power more evenly and create more multi-ethnic parties rather than sub-nationalist ones like PPP, PMLN, ANP, etc.

 

[El Sidd]

Not only the demographics are not the same as they were 2-3 decades ago but level of patriotism is very high.

That's simply down to religious aspect on how they ended up in the city something you are vehemently opposed.

Practicality should have replaced patriotism long ago as far as your postulations go.

 

[SaadH]

The only sincere, competent and incorruptible party of Karachi was JI, as evidenced by the work they performed during both during it's first mayor's tenure Abdul Sattar Afghani and it's second mayor Naimatullah Khan...

Those clubbing JI with the likes of MQM and PPP are the very same liberal degenerates ethno fascists who went out of their way to support these ethnic fascist parties in the destruction of Karachi...

Karachites had a very sensible, sincere and able representation in JI but they chose to make a deal with the devil and cast their lot with ethno fascists of MQM and their message of hate. It is far too easy to rob a business, collect bhatta, snatch mobile phones, induct party members into various institutions for no show jobs, do China cutting then to actually do hard work to discipline your people into investing in education, infrastructure and community build up and following law and order. Karachites through auspices of MQM chose the easy way out. Now they are suffering and will do so for the foreseeable future and deservedly so.

BTW, before throw out the ethnic card, I am a urdu speaking Karachite.

 

[jupiter2007]

What matters is number of seats..
PPPP won 15+ provincial seats from karachi (20%)

Doesnt matter if its popular or not

Its number game not a beauty contest

Anyone who thinks popularity matter is a clown

If voting is done with EVM, there will be no ghost votes for PPP.

MQM going against own people cost them a lot - many got humbled.

Hope they have learnt the lesson now.



I hope that day never comes !!!



This is a second opinion among Karachi circles regarding PPP only due to Murtaza Wahab.



I got your point.

I put that because It was a quite a thing when anchor of national TV said that on live program.



Good Governance along with space to US in their own city would be a good start as all nations have their own provinces except US.



Dude, PPP is ruling for 13 years in Provincial Government.

MQM never stopped PPP from doing her job.



Karachi - is pro establishment city as of now but the way mainstream people are talking and noticing the PPP's 13 years consecutive rule, Karachi can create problems.

Karachi's issues need to be solved once and for all......

South Sindh province or Karachi division as province.

 

[newb3e]

Because of those PTI seats karachi is getting 1100 b rupees from bankrupted center in next 3-5 years of which atleast 60b has been spent


200b is just being spent on water supply

The feasibity study is done ..10b got wasted for not doing a feasibility study for K IV!!! And working without one..

k4 is not for khi its for faujis protected bahria town and fauji mafias own Dha city!

federal govt is paying for rightful owners of this country the fauji mafia! we people are cockroaches!

The only sincere, competent and incorruptible party of Karachi was JI, as evidenced by the work they performed during both during it's first mayor's tenure Abdul Sattar Afghani and it's second mayor Naimatullah Khan...

Those clubbing JI with the likes of MQM and PPP are the very same liberal degenerates ethno fascists who went out of their way to support these ethnic fascist parties in the destruction of Karachi...

Karachites had a very sensible, sincere and able representation in JI but they chose to make a deal with the devil and cast their lot with ethno fascists of MQM and their message of hate. It is far too easy to rob a business, collect bhatta, snatch mobile phones, induct party members into various institutions for no show jobs, do China cutting then to actually do hard work to discipline your people into investing in education, infrastructure and community build up and following law and order. Karachites through auspices of MQM chose the easy way out. Now they are suffering and will do so for the foreseeable future and deservedly so.

BTW, before throw out the ethnic card, I am a urdu speaking Karachite.

Mqm did more harm to urdu speaking community then any wedera or fauji mafia! Mqm was a parasite that destroyed the people it claimed to represent! but again who was behind Mqm killing machine Fauji mafia!

 

[ziaulislam]

k4 is not for khi its for faujis protected bahria town and fauji mafias own Dha city!

federal govt is paying for rightful owners of this country the fauji mafia! we people are cockroaches!

Mqm did more harm to urdu speaking community then any wedera or fauji mafia! Mqm was a parasite that destroyed the people it claimed to represent! but again who was behind Mqm killing machine Fauji mafia!

we need to first figure out what Karachi is ?

apparently bahir/DHA town is not Karachi any more

seems there are going to be aliens or 10 million fauji people living in bahria town drinking 650 MG of water (K-IV total supply), as we know each fauji has 2o children this is big problem


for anyone who does has a brain large than a peanut(not you obviously), 650MG is half of Karachi demand or 30 gallon per person perday for 2 crore people

but not DHA and bahira town will drink all this water, surprise you drink so much water

k4 is not for khi its for faujis protected bahria town and fauji mafias own Dha city!

federal govt is paying for rightful owners of this country the fauji mafia! we people are cockroaches!

Mqm did more harm to urdu speaking community then any wedera or fauji mafia! Mqm was a parasite that destroyed the people it claimed to represent! but again who was behind Mqm killing machine Fauji mafia!

basically summarizes Pakistan problem
people being hostile to development and investment
no wonder no one wants to invest in Pakistan

 

[newb3e]

we need to first figure out what Karachi is ?

apparently bahir/DHA town is not Karachi any more

seems there are going to be aliens or 10 million fauji people living in bahria town drinking 650 MG of water (K-IV total supply), as we know each fauji has 2o children this is big problem


for anyone who does has a brain large than a peanut(not you obviously), 650MG is half of Karachi demand or 30 gallon per person perday for 2 crore people

but not DHA and bahira town will drink all this water, surprise you drink so much water

basically summarizes Pakistan problem
people being hostile to development and investment
no wonder no one wants to invest in Pakistan

lols

assmart *** you first provide facilities to legal settlements and not to qabza mafia!

but since you are just a boot licker for you fauji ki chori is halal! no wonder Pakistan is fked up!

 

[Mirzali Khan]

I've seen some sentiment limited to online thats why I was asking if there is anything on ground

Nah on ground and in real life there is no Punjabi ethnonationalism

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Pakistan needs maybe 2-3 more provinces like South Punjab, Pothohar and Hazara (Hindkowans). This will split the power more evenly and create more multi-ethnic parties rather than sub-nationalist ones like PPP, PMLN, ANP, etc.

I agree, make a North Pashtunkhwa and South Pashtukhwa (Quetta and Pashtun areas of Balochistan), cut down balochistan into 3 provinces based on its princely state boundaries.

Make South Punjab (Saraikistan)

Make Peshawar a special economic zone because its halfway point between Pashtuns and Hindkokhwan. Make a separate Hindkokhwan porvince

 

[PakSarZameen47]

I agree, make a North Pashtunkhwa and South Pashtukhwa (Quetta and Pashtun areas of Balochistan), cut down balochistan into 3 provinces based on its princely state boundaries.

Make South Punjab (Saraikistan)

Make Peshawar a special economic zone because its halfway point between Pashtuns and Hindkokhwan. Make a separate Hindkokhwan porvince

Need a good leadership for this to happen; current set up will be difficult as all corrupt will oppose this

 

[SaadH]

k4 is not for khi its for faujis protected bahria town and fauji mafias own Dha city!

federal govt is paying for rightful owners of this country the fauji mafia! we people are cockroaches!

Mqm did more harm to urdu speaking community then any wedera or fauji mafia! Mqm was a parasite that destroyed the people it claimed to represent! but again who was behind Mqm killing machine Fauji mafia!

True without Fauji patronage MQM wouldn't have lasted all that long.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

Nah on ground and in real life there is no Punjabi ethnonationalism

Yeah there's just one US diaspora that's started this self victimisation, seems like an identity crisis to be honest..

 

[newb3e]

True without Fauji patronage MQM wouldn't have lasted all that long.

not just mqm!

PPP murdering,looting under patronage of Fauji!

Nawaz same!

Malik Riaz became a kingpin because of Faujis!

and yet we blame Politicians they are mere Pawns!

 

[Maula Jatt]

Yeah there's just one US diaspora that's started this self victimisation, seems like an identity crisis to be honest..

Too much shit talking against Punjabis that people in Punjab itself dont hear but in diaspora you get to hear and experience all of it
And second yeah identity crisis- you're in foreign lands so natural for you to be either
A- very nationalist
B- ethno-nationalist
C- wannabe white/black

Personally I think it's more identity crisis than anything...