Karachi keep blackmailing & blame gaming Government to get the 1.1 Trillion rupees massive development money package | Victim-hood Card works

[El Sidd]

Is bhai se umeed hai...5 saal poore hone ke baad judgement donga.

hahahahaha isse apne aap se kuch umeed nahi. apko kia khaak milega.

ye Khwaan Saab mianwali azad karalen bari baat hai

 

[pakpride00090]

We need to think wise. Karachi's census is obviously botched up MASSIVELY to curtail our representation. There are just 1.5 million undocumneted Bengalis alone in Karachi. Karachi is 35-40% of Sindh's population.

We need to spread out. We must ensure our numbers and spread out in low populated districts, preferably other districts in South Sindh around Karachi, like Thatta. We're fighting a demographic battle in Karachi and losing. Interior Sindh people can colonize our city. Why must we stay limited to one city of Sindh then?

People from the North can call in their Afghan tribe relatives by the millions. Why can't we take in the Gujarati Muslim victims from 2002 to boost our numbers? We need to think smart.

Correct. Btw , half of my family is from Thatta . Most of them have married to Sindhi women... Love Jihad ..Lol

 

[Cliftonite]

Correct. Btw , half of my family is from Thatta . Most of them have married to Sindhi women... Love Jihad ..Lol

I fear we'll just end up becoming de-facto Sindhis and doing jee huzoori to feudal lords and adda saaiens in a decade or two.

Population humari kaafi hai. We're more in number than Azad Kashmiris, Baloch, and Gilgit Baltistani communities. Only problem is we're all limited in one or two districts of Sindh, which are heavily populated by other communities as well. So we are drowned out.

 

[Asian.Century]

In your rather rudimentary mind, services sector does not count towards GDP. Yes, Karachi generates a lot of revenue through ports, transhipment and financial services, but that's what major and developed urban centers do - provide value added services rather than produce low value goods (i.e. what Punjab does). This is what Singapore, Dubai, London and New York do to generate revenues and hence claim a significant chunk of federal budgets.

The problem with people living in Punjab is that they don't see Karachi as a national asset. Their small minds don't see that Karachi and its infrastructure has been systematically destroyed over the last 40 years due to both provincial corruption and lack of federal attention. If a population of 20 million is generating 1/3 of GDP (as per your numbers) and 65% of revenues, you cherish that and try to ensure that the asset is maintained and further enhanced.

Truth you cant handle
Karachi tum jesay hazaar logo ko paaalta hai jo train bhar bhar ke karachi atay hai. If punjab is so great why people of punjab comes to karachi and settle here or looking for jobs? Ab uchaltay rehna lol

What i see is extreme jealousy in minds of you all people.

Do you know currently how many lakhs of Karachi wala populace now lives in Lahore?

Do you who provides all the Pakistan bread and butter ? Do you know how many millions of jobs provided to?

Do you know who provided the best Wheat quality throughout Pakistan? Do you know where is the fine flour aka atta is provided from? for nearly 200+ years now.

Do you know who provides the fruits, vegetables to all Pakistan?

Do you know where is the best rasmati rice is grown and given through out Pakistan? Do you know which industry in Silakot is located in which province which provides best quality surgical., sports, leather, and electronics goods through out Pakistan.? Do you why international biggest brands and business comes to which city and the most in whcih province for investment? why they want the greenery of the province ? Yes everything is from the Punjab Province of Pakistan, which you all beg to come and also show jealous hatred.

Do you know who funds the Military, Nuclear Assets, Missiles, aircrafts the most with contribution in budget collected from which province? Do you know which province has cumulative biggest IT software exports and goods? Do you know which province has the largest most successful manufacturing and industrial base? And why Steel mills has failed in Karachi? Why PIA head office in Karachi Sindh is a failure? And all our moving out.

Do you know which province with cotton, yarn and textiles are the biggest exporter to world and inside Pakistan is ? Do you know the GDP revenue collection of which province is the biggest by x5 times of any province or city in Pakistan?

This is why there is curse on people like you, just like there is a cure on BLA baochis, who propagate lies after lies and then also show hatred towards the very province which feeds 90% of Pakistan. Do you know from where all food, daily items, electronics are taken to Giligit Pakistan, KPK, FATA, and Azad Kashmir?

Do you know which province has $200 GDP billion dollar revenue economy which is more than 60% shares in Pakistan economy come from? Punjab has to feed its 100 million people and yet it gives all its agricutural and industrial produce to rest of Pakistani provinces. Do not tell me Karachi now grows food and has agricultural lands. What is Pakistan's main economy based on ?


Abhay chel! @Cliftonite @mikkix ! Donot be thankless out of just jealousy! Donot blame others for your own follies! Donot play victim hood games on your own problems. Donot blame others that they took all? what exactly they took from Karachi or Sindh? Does it has anything important for Punjab and Punjabis. Donot be a donkey head and untruthful when on ground most of you all know that you weak haters; that who actually feeds who and who actually earns the most and is the actual revenue for Pakistan and gets the little in return !!

 

[pakpride00090]

I fear we'll just end up becoming de-facto Sindhis and doing jee huzoori to feudal lords and adda saaiens in a decade or two.

Population humari kaafi hai. We're more in number than Azad Kashmiris, Baloch, and Gilgit Baltistani communities. Only problem is we're all limited in one or two districts of Sindh, which are heavily populated by other communities as well. So we are drowned out.

Unfortunately , you are very right. I can already see this happening. The thing is Zardari and other feudal lords have slowly but surely wrestled the city away. They are constructing building units that exclusively house interior sindhis. Most of the government jobs are occupied by sindhis ... I don't know if you have visited major schools in Khi like KGS , Lyceum , beacon but one thing I can tell you is that there are a lot sons and daughters of waderas over there with little pop of urdu speakers relative to the city population.

Altaf didn't do shit for the upliftment of the community and together with all out attack from other ethnicities in various ways , we are pretty much done. Next generation of muhajirs will be poor , unemployed and uneducated , while at the same time sindhis retaining everything , from power to wealth.

 

[Cliftonite]

Unfortunately , you are very right. I can already see this happening. The thing is Zardari and other feudal lords have slowly but surely wrestled the city away. They are constructing building units that exclusively house interior sindhis. Most of the government jobs are occupied by sindhis ... I don't know if you have visited major schools in Khi like KGS , Lyceum , beacon but one thing I can tell you is that there are a lot sons and daughters of waderas over there with little pop of urdu speakers relative to the city population.

Altaf didn't do shit for the upliftment of the community and together with all out attack from other ethnicities in various ways , we are pretty much done. Next generation of muhajirs will be poor , unemployed and uneducated , while at the same time sindhis retaining everything , from power to wealth.

Exactly. The Muhajir has no future in Sindh atleast. Karachi is firmly in the hands of Sindhis now. Altaf put the Muhajir community in a state of fear and angst and alienated us.

We are not less in number. When Afghans can cross over by the millions, why can't we be sneaky and take in people from Gujarat and Rajasthan? There are 2 million Bengali and Bihari and Arakanese origin people who are also defacto Muhajirs in Karachi. Spread out to Makran or Thatta region maybe where we can form a majority in some districts. I don't know. We don't even have a leadership left to unite us.

 

[Cliftonite]

@pakpride00090 at this point I'm even willing to co-opt the 2-3 million Afghanis as Muhajirs if it helps offset the interior Sindh colonization.

So many people in Karachi but none of them have a collective voice. Parchis from interior Sindh rule over us.

 

[pakpride00090]

@pakpride00090 at this point I'm even willing to co-opt the 2-3 million Afghanis as Muhajirs if it helps offset the interior Sindh colonization.

So many people in Karachi but none of them have a collective voice. Parchis from interior Sindh rule over us.

Nice idea .. It can be a mutual alliance to dislodge sindhi dominance. But the problem is they don't have citizenship ... Sindhis are very much opposed to give them anything. There are regular twitter trends by sindhis that talk about getting rid of Afghans.

 

[SQ8]

Given that PDF admin do have access to all IP’s and other sources - I wonder if we took the true identity info of all the racists and just publish them for identification?
It has great impact for employers and potential business partners anyway along with letting anyone who really is a potential national security threat due to their racism damaging the fabric of the nation.

I guess that is the plague of anonymous internet - brings out the true character of humans.

 

[El Sidd]

It's best advised for the Karachiites to stand with Afghan mahajireens and Bangladeshi mahajireens and demand citizenship again from Pakistan.

@pakpride00090 at this point I'm even willing to co-opt the 2-3 million Afghanis as Muhajirs if it helps offset the interior Sindh colonization.

So many people in Karachi but none of them have a collective voice. Parchis from interior Sindh rule over us.

Nice idea .. It can be a mutual alliance to dislodge sindhi dominance. But the problem is they don't have citizenship ... Sindhis are very much opposed to give them anything. There are regular twitter trends by sindhis that talk about getting rid of Afghans.

arahe hain line per ahista ahista aap inquilabi logaaan

 

[pakpride00090]

Given that PDF admin do have access to all IP’s and other sources - I wonder if we took the true identity info of all the racists and just publish them for identification?
It has great impact for employers and potential business partners anyway along with letting anyone who really is a potential national security threat due to their racism damaging the fabric of the nation.

@Cliftonite .... Le bhai ... Dhamki agayi sons of soil ki taraf se...

Given that PDF admin do have access to all IP’s and other sources - I wonder if we took the true identity info of all the racists and just publish them for identification?
It has great impact for employers and potential business partners anyway along with letting anyone who really is a potential national security threat due to their racism damaging the fabric of the nation.

Should have read the historical background before showing guns over here...

Ham wese bhi bataon ke ilawa kuch nahi kar sakhte....Information publish tou ous ki karni chahiyeh jis ke pass power ho... Hamere pass konsi hai ?

 

[SQ8]

@Cliftonite .... Le bhai ... Dhamki agayi sons of soil ki taraf se...

Yes - sons of the soil are the grandchildren of immigrants from UP who have PAK service numbers in the single digits which both the racists from UK or the ones who continue the mohajir tripe but cannot stop being racists towards everyone else don’t understand.

Frankly, it is these sons of soil that matter not the supposed arains or rajputs,mehsuds or saiens.. but those that really knew their identity as Pakistanis first.

Racists cannot get it, they don’t belong to a nation but instead to either their facial features or “four generations ago”.

Pakistan isn’t permanent, but the impact of its dissolution will be felt by the very ones who currently are unable to see the economic disparities they create by their racial prejudices and inability to allocate resources fairly.

But then, I think - “Sanu ki..lar maro saare”

 

[pakpride00090]

Yes - sons of the soil are the grandchildren of immigrants from UP who have PAK service numbers in the single digits which both the racists from UK or the ones who continue the mohajir tripe but cannot stop being racists towards everyone else don’t understand.

Frankly, it is these sons of soil that matter not the supposed arains or rajputs,mehsuds or saiens.. but those that really knew their identity as Pakistanis first.

Racists cannot get it, they don’t belong to a nation but instead to either their facial features or “four generations ago”

No offense brother but bara asan hai apke liye yeh kehna...

Benazir ke assassination ke baad mere ghar ke bahir firing our stone pelting dekhte tou thori sympathy show karte.... With all the firing , they were shouting " Mar Makar kein" , translated as " kill these muhajirs" .

We had to move to UAE for few weeks because of that...

Yeh tou sirf ik example hai...

Wese bhi as I said before , we can't do anything .. The future belong to Sindhis. All we can do is lament on our choices and fortune.

We don't want dissolution. We know the stories. We still have few people alive to narrate the horrors'. Maze ki baat tou yeh hai apne shayad sindhi literature nahi para.... Thora parlein , ap ko pata chal jae ga sindhis , Pakistan ke bare mein kia sochte hain ...

 

[El Sidd]

Given that PDF admin do have access to all IP’s and other sources - I wonder if we took the true identity info of all the racists and just publish them for identification?
It has great impact for employers and potential business partners anyway along with letting anyone who really is a potential national security threat due to their racism damaging the fabric of the nation.

I guess that is the plague of anonymous internet - brings out the true character of humans.

If I may interrupt and mind the crude nature of the interruption, federal ministers tweets about punjabi supremacy need no IP tracing or AI algorithms.

The same goes true for PM who regularly talks of Afghan supremacy.

 

[SQ8]

No offense brother but bara asan hai apke liye yeh kehna...

Benazir ke assassination ke baad mere ghar ke bahir firing our stone pelting dekhte tou thori sympathy show karte.... With all the firing , they were shouting " Mar Makar kein" , translated as " kill these muhajirs" .

We had to move to UAE for few weeks because of that...

Yeh tou sirf ik example hai...

Wese bhi as I said before , we can't do anything .. The future belong to Sindhis. All we can do is lament on our choices and fortune.

We don't want dissolution. We know the stories. We still have few people alive to narrate the horrors'. Maze ki baat tou yeh hai apne shayad sindhi literature nahi para.... Thora parlein , ap ko pata chal jae ga sindhis , Pakistan ke bare mein kia sochte hain ...

How is it easy? Is it easy because your house was fired upon in 2007 but ours was in 1992 so its more recent?

Is it easy hearing university teachers saying “Bohat khabees qaum hai Mohajir”?
Is it easy people asking the family of a Shaheed in rawalpindi “Aap log Indian hain na?”

Please, lets not make it easy. But the fact remains the vision that began with a Sialkoti and a Karachiwala (oddly the two are massive contributors to the economy and make do on their own without stolen government funds) is really what keeps the faith.

Yes I have heard hatred from Sindhis but also love for their country so I do not agree with this assertion. Sindh is the land I was born into as well, and at the end I am bound as much to Karachi as to Gadap or the interior. I am bound to take pride in the Ajrak regardless of whether the ethnic sindhi doesn’t think I belong.

Look inwards too, the amount of racism that spouts out of immigrant families in their sense of superiority is pretty filthy as well.

Finally, as for economic woes of Karachi - I’ve gotten sick of hearing since my childhood about giving Karachi to its business community and see them turn it into Dubai. Granted the PPP would rather have all Mohajirs die out if it means suffocating Karachi but the MQM is the true criminal here. They shut down Karachi, they took pens away and handed guns to the community. Lets not even bring in the Rangers, DHA or other players - Mansha or other seths sitting in Karachi have nothing to show for themselves except exorbitant weddings and hummers.

If a majority is suppressing you, frankly you are the biggest fools to let it and continue to roll out “leaders” like MQM or Kamal. So either accept the fate, leave the country or hit the streets.
Fact is, most middle class in Karachi wants to leave by hook or by crook - they’ve given up thier interest in the future of Pakistan. Its all about me, the Punjabis&Sindhis here cant get over their majazi Khuda sharif or Bhuttos and their misappropriation of funds because that is their bradri culture and it has ruined them for the past 200 years anyway.
The Pathan’s have been abused to the hilt and left in economic doldrums while the Balochis are akin to some eczema apparently which the rest of the country keeps trying to scratch out.

So whether Karachi deserves 1 trillion because the OP in his racial superiority believes only a certain race lives in it is moot because him and his ilk are incapable of understanding the melting pot that is the unofficial estimate of 30 million that is greater Karachi includes more “sons of soil” than not.

It is more about whether we as a nation will ever get beyond polarization - and the way the world is heading I would suggest its time to simply pray and do whatever little one can to survive.

If I may interrupt and mind the crude nature of the interruption, federal ministers tweets about punjabi supremacy need no IP tracing or AI algorithms.

The same goes true for PM who regularly talks of Afghan supremacy.

Who elects them? In essence then are we collectively a national security threat?
The federal minister was brought in by an elected government, but apparently the people who elected them are proverbial eunuchs since they cannot get even an apology out of him.
yun tu syed bhi ho, mirza bhi ho, Afghan bhi ho?