Karachi Circular Railway (KCR)

[ziaulislam]

there are provincial projects/bodies and then there are federal projects/bodies, federal government owns many departments which are responsible for development in Karachi, during musharraf periods, those federal bodies collaborated with the mayors, but this was dismissed when musharraf was sent packing. My simple question is why PTI didn't collaborate with Karachi's mayor for 1.1 trillion package when wasim akhter was mayor of karachi? simply put, PTI didn't want its 1.1 trillion fund/package supervised, its claim question questioned and investigated by the karachi government, it would have easily exposed PTI and its fake BS.

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Because karachi mayor can't spend money per sindh govt rules

It is as simple as that

Mayor powers were taken away by sindh assembly
Only was federal govt can fix karachi is if it becomes a separate province
Or by further devolution ..


The case is already filled by PTI to GIVE MAYOR POWERS TO SPEND

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

nope, officially, KCR is the federal project not sindh govt, KUTC has majorty Federal stake meaning that federal govt is responsible for the KCR, one of the primary reason why PPP corrupt ppl are so reluctant to persue KCR is because they dont feel any responsibility given their stake.

If you’re going to take that line, the major parties responsible are still the PPP & PMLN governments that were in the Center for a combined total of 10 years vs the PTI’s 2 something years.

The PPP is even more responsible because it had BOTH federal government control AND provincial government control for 5 out of those 10 years, and of course has been in power in the province for over a decade.

 

[W.11]

If you’re going to take that line, the major parties responsible are still the PPP & PMLN governments that were in the Center for a combined total of 10 years vs the PTI’s 2 something years.

The PPP is even more responsible because it had BOTH federal government control AND provincial government control for 5 out of those 10 years, and of course has been in power in the province for over a decade.

PTI completed PMLN orange line project and yet PTI keeps delaying green line of karachi, it seems to me that PMLN and PPP are just scapegoats, secondly unlike PPP and PMLN, PTI got majority representation from Karachi, PTI failing is even more concerning than PPP and PMLN.

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[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

PTI completed PMLN orange line project and yet PTI keeps delaying green line of karachi, it seems to me that PMLN and PPP are just scapegoats, secondly unlike PPP and PMLN, PTI got majority representation from Karachi, PTI failing is even more concerning than PPP and PMLN.

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How far along was the Orange Line project vs the Green Line of Karachi?

Making comparisons without understanding the level of work already completed on each project is pointless. Secondly, the PTI Punjab government, unlike the PPP Sindh government, is actually interested in improving services and carrying out development.

The PPP Sindh Government is more interested in creating more Owais Muzaffar Tappi's and funneling billions into the accounts of its corrupt leadership and allies in the bureaucracy and elsewhere.

Heck, even the PMLN government in Punjab under Shahbaz Sharif, with all of its corruption, had enough sense to at least carry out development in Lahore and push for the completion of various large projects across the province - the PPP leadership in Sindh can't even do that much - sewage, water supplies, infrastructure, and mass transit in Karachi - every thing is literally in the gutter thanks to the PPP.

 

[W.11]

How far along was the Orange Line project vs the Green Line of Karachi?

Making comparisons without understanding the level of work already completed on each project is pointless. Secondly, the PTI Punjab government, unlike the PPP Sindh government, is actually interested in improving services and carrying out development.

The PPP Sindh Government is more interested in creating more Owais Muzaffar Tappi's and funneling billions into the accounts of its corrupt leadership and allies in the bureaucracy and elsewhere.

Heck, even the PMLN government in Punjab under Shahbaz Sharif, with all of its corruption, had enough sense to at least carry out development in Lahore and push for the completion of various large projects across the province - the PPP leadership in Sindh can't even do that much - sewage, water supplies, infrastructure, and mass transit in Karachi - every thing is literally in the gutter thanks to the PPP.

Karachi didn't vote for PPP, so stop wiith this PPP BS, PTI should delver otherwise its not getting another chance in Karachi.

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[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Karachi didn't vote for PPP, so stop wiith this PPP BS, PTI should delver otherwise its not getting another chance in Karachi.

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Oh, is Karachi no longer in Sindh and no longer under the provincial government?

Can the PPP Sindh Government please officially state that because Karachi did not vote for the PPP, that the Federal government can run Karachi and the PPP/Sindh Government will pass whatever laws are necessary and support whatever constitutional amendments are necessary to make Karachi a Federally governed territory?

You people are all the same - run out of arguments to defend your corrupt PPP wadera's and what not and try and deflect blame for the PPP's incompetence and corruption to ensure they keep getting elected in Sindh.

 

[W.11]

Oh, is Karachi no longer in Sindh and no longer under the provincial government?

Can the PPP Sindh Government please officially state that because Karachi did not vote for the PPP, that the Federal government can run Karachi and the PPP/Sindh Government will pass whatever laws are necessary and support whatever constitutional amendments are necessary to make Karachi a Federally governed territory?

You people are all the same - run out of arguments to defend your corrupt PPP wadera's and what not and try and deflect blame for the PPP's incompetence and corruption to ensure they keep getting elected in Sindh.

PTI asked votes from karachi not sindh, PTI should have asked votes from sindh, PTI do that next time but its game over for PTI in Karachi, Karachi ppl made PTI government in the centre possible, without karachi PTI wouldn't have done that, so better luck next time having fed govt.

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[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

PTI asked votes from karachi not sindh, PTI should have asked votes from sindh, PTI do that next time but its game over for PTI in Karachi, Karachi ppl made PTI government in the centre possible, without karachi PTI wouldn't have done that, so better luck next time having fed govt.

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Still didn't answer any actual questions - here they are again:

"Is Karachi no longer in Sindh and no longer under the provincial government?

Can the PPP Sindh Government please officially state that because Karachi did not vote for the PPP, that the Federal government can run Karachi and the PPP/Sindh Government will pass whatever laws are necessary and support whatever constitutional amendments are necessary to make Karachi a Federally governed territory?"

 

[ziaulislam]

PTI completed PMLN orange line project and yet PTI keeps delaying green line of karachi, it seems to me that PMLN and PPP are just scapegoats, secondly unlike PPP and PMLN, PTI got majority representation from Karachi, PTI failing is even more concerning than PPP and PMLN.

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Punjab govt completed that projct
And federal govt is bankrupted its budget is negative before even development projcts are counted
KCR time line is 3-5 year
We will know in next 12 months whats going to happen

 

[W.11]

Punjab govt completed that projct
And federal govt is bankrupted its budget is negative before even development projcts are counted
KCR time line is 3-5 year
We will know in next 12 months whats going to happen

its okay, what we need is a karachi province with its own finances, i dont think there is any other solution to it.

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[ziaulislam]

its okay, what we need is a karachi province with its own finances, i dont think there is any other solution to it.

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AGREE
for that karachites needs to get togther..but they arent..
we see die hard fans of PPPP still in karachi..
without consensus on provincial status this wont happen

not bad for 60 years old system

hopefully the new KCR will be state of the art

 

[ziaulislam]

 

[ghazi52]

First train from November 16, not a single station, platform or ticket office was in presentable condition, sources said.

Federal Railways Minister Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed said that the 14km KCR track was ready while the remaining track would be laid by the Sindh government. “As many as 10 coaches are ready to ply the KCR track while work on 40 more coaches is underway” he added.

According to Pakistan Railways, the KCR project would be completed in three phases. The length of the project was 43.13km, including 14.95km on ground and 28.18km elevated. KCR would have 24 stations and its per-day ridership would be around 550,000

 

[ghazi52]

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December 07, 2020

 

[ghazi52]

Karachi Circular Railway Lyari Station Update

•Dec 8, 2020