Kalabagh, Kala Bagh, kaaaalaaaaa Baaagh: Where art tho?

[Dr. Strangelove]

If Kalabagh is made ; Sindh will declare independence

butto dynasty will declere independence without the support of urban population
and will be slaughtered like dogs

 

[FaujHistorian]

@FaujHistorian

If Kalabagh is made ; Sindh will declare independence

KPK and Balochistan are always sitting on the FENCE ; you dont want to provoke Sindh

By the way have you ever wondered why Pakistan Army
TOLERATED Zardari for FIVE years

To keep Pakistan united

Oh bhai,

Quit living in 1970s.

Things have changed (for now, and for better).

Pakistanis no longer want to be duped by ethnic chauvinism.

Fault lines do exist, but they are bigger and worse in Bharat and Afghanistan.

So no more lecturing. Please contribute positively.

if you continue to troll, you will get negative ratings as a warning.

Thank you

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Oh bhai,

Quit living in 1970s.

Things have changed (for now, and for better).

Pakistanis no longer want to be duped by ethnic chauvinism.

Fault lines do exist, but they are bigger and worse in Bharat and Afghanistan.

So no more lecturing. Please contribute positively.

if you continue to troll, you will get negative ratings as a warning.

Thank you

I am only stating what I have read in the media

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

A project that can make 3,600 megawatts + allow huge water storage

just imagine this would be equal to 90

imagine 90

yes 90

river projects similar to the one being discussed here:

Khattak to inaugurate 40.8 MW Koto Hydro Dam in Dir today

Why have we lost our senses, why we celebrate tiny tiny tiny things while missing absolutely missing the real projects.

Why?


p.s.
Thanks to @Imran Khan, Change the name of the damn to "Shahid Bhutto dam". Great idea.


p.p.s here is the detail of kala bagh project if you are still not on google or wiki (just kidding)
Kalabagh Dam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





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Political point scoring project....

 

[FaujHistorian]

I am only stating what I have read in the media

then quote the recent media reports. No need to troll with one liners.

Avoid trolling Avoid negative rating.

Thank you

Political point scoring project....

IN what way?

 

[scorpionx]

The reason behind the painful delay is perhaps one of the biggest deformity of democracy, quite peculiar in this subcontinent. A number of well visioned infrastructure projects gets shelved as political aristocrats, in the name of democratic right tend to ignore the benefits that could have served a much greater number of people and chose to encourage the discontent of a handful for cheap political gain.

This is where a thorough revision of our democratic set up is needed. Public and media discussion, criticism are always welcome but the government and the opposition parties must be careful enough not to exercise such pathetically ill visioned harakiri which will affect our future generations.

 

[FaujHistorian]

The reason behind the painful delay is perhaps one of the biggest deformity of democracy, quite peculiar in this subcontinent. A number of well visioned infrastructure projects gets shelved as political aristocrats, in the name of democratic right tend to ignore the benefits that could have served a much greater number of people and chose to encourage the discontent of a handful for cheap political gain.

This is where a thorough revision of our democratic set up is needed. Public and media discussion, criticism are always welcome but the government and the opposition parties must be careful enough not to exercise such pathetically ill visioned harakiri which will affect our future generations.

Yes Scorp bhai

This is so true. Sadly.

 

[tahir195]

132 billion dollars per year

bhai need ma ho kia?

 

[FaujHistorian]

bhai need ma ho kia?

good point. Sometimes people confuse between millions and billions, also rupees or dollars.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

As a developing nation ,We need atleast two or three Kala bagh dams , as our demand is increasing fast. We will even struggle to meet up with our energy demand even if we have 1 Kala bagh dam in 2025 which is not enough...

 

[Spectre]

A project that can make 3,600 megawatts + allow huge water storage

just imagine this would be equal to 90

imagine 90

yes 90

river projects similar to the one being discussed here:

Khattak to inaugurate 40.8 MW Koto Hydro Dam in Dir today

Why have we lost our senses, why we celebrate tiny tiny tiny things while missing absolutely missing the real projects.

Why?


p.s.
Thanks to @Imran Khan, Change the name of the damn to "Shahid Bhutto dam". Great idea.


p.p.s here is the detail of kala bagh project if you are still not on google or wiki (just kidding)
Kalabagh Dam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





@Atanz, @Gufi, @Slav Defence, @Luftwaffe, @WebMaster, @Jungibaaz, @jaibi, @notsuperstitious, @Azlan Haider, @ajpirzada, @DESERT FIGHTER, @AgNoStiC MuSliM, @Jazzbot, @Jf Thunder, @Hyperion, @JonAsad, @Nihonjin1051, @cirr, @Cherokee @Donatello, @Genesis, @Bamxa, @SarthakGanguly, @Cat Shannon, @Butchcassidy, @Norwegian, @Mr.UTurn, @GreenFalcon, @Syed.Ali.Haider,

Few ideas which i have found works in India

1. Get foreign experts from USA, China etc to write articles in major newspapers in support of damn. Create a PR Blitzkrieg in MSM , which ought to take care of most leftist intellectuals.

2. Give generous compensation in form of land, govt jobs to people negatively affected. Don't be stingy in forming relocation plan as dissatisfied local population can seriously stymie the whole project.

3. The remaining doubters with dubious motives like politicians and NGOs ought to be treated with a carrot and stick policy. Make them stakeholders by appointing them to committees looking after construction and relocation so that they can claim credit, If still they don't come in line then paint them anti-national and India supporters who want to harm Pakistan

 

[FaujHistorian]

Few ideas which i have found works in India

1. Get foreign experts from USA, China etc to write articles in major newspapers in support of damn. Create a PR Blitzkrieg in MSM , which ought to take care of most leftist intellectuals.

2. Give generous compensation in form of land, govt jobs to people negatively affected. Don't be stingy in forming relocation plan as dissatisfied local population can seriously stymie the whole project.

3. The remaining doubters with dubious motives like politicians and NGOs ought to be treated with a carrot and stick policy. Make them stakeholders by appointing them to committees looking after construction and relocation so that they can claim credit, If still they don't come in line then paint them anti-national and India supporters who want to harm Pakistan

Excellent ideas. Thank you

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Kalabag won't be possible with out assasination of PPP clan and other opposers like altaf bhai

 

[WAJsal]

@FaujHistorian , Kalabagh dam has many advantages. The worst part is it is opposed on false terms. Politicans in Sindh and KPK say, water from their provinces will go to Punjab and in reality water of sindh and KPK will increase irrigating huge amount of land too. Then there is water storage too.

“Critics argue that if the dam is built, it would turn Sindh into a desert, but the experts are of the opinion that the province would get additional 4.75 million acre feet of water. Punjab would receive additional 2.04 MAF, Balochistan 1.56 MAF and K-P 2.01 MAF.”
Some advantages.


Terming the Kalabagh Dam a lifeline for the country’s future, the speakers at a seminar said that the vision of Quaid-e-Azam was to build Kalabagh Dam (Mianwali Hydro Project) and Nara Canal to meet energy requirements through cheep electricity and provide water to the desert of Thar.
“The country’s parliament, in its first budget session in presence of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, had approved the 500MW Mianwali Hydropower Project (Kalabagh Dam) in 1948 with a view to generate power through hydel production.
After the creation of Pakistan, the government under the leadership of Quaid-e-Azam, focused the growth of economy based on agro industry. At that time when the country’s power generation capacity was only 60MW the first budget session approved the construction of KBD,” observed Chairman Sindh Tas Water Council Pakistan Muhammad Suleman Khan at a seminar organized by the Institution of Engineers Pakistan.
Quoting a Wapda report, he stated that the annual electricity generated at Kalabagh Dam would be equivalent to 20 million barrels of oil otherwise needed to produce costly thermal power. This annual import of fuel would require augmentation of transportation infrastructure. It is the additional burden of billion of U.S dollars per annum to the economy.
“IRSA is responsible authority of four of the provinces and federal government. Its Chairman Engr. Raqib Khan (who belongs to Khyber Pk) has written an official letter to the Secretary, Ministry of Water & Power, Government of Pakistan for the water crises in the country. He wrote “IRSA strongly recommended the construction of new water storages of at least 22 MAF capacity on all the feasible sites on war footing basis as agriculture is the back bone of the country’s economy (it is point to note that the capacity of Kalabagh Dam is only 6.1Maf). The new storages will help to improve the diminishing per capita water availability, increase in GDP, control of floods etc., besides availability of cheap environment friendly Hydel Power to overcome the Power crises being faced by the country which is giving a serious setback to the economy.
Chairman Pakistan Engineering Council, Engr Abdul Qadir Shah, who is the brother of Syed Khurshid Shah, senior opposition leader of Pakistan People’s Party and the opposition leader in National Assembly, said at the event of World Water Day that “We have only the storage of 50 days whereas Egypt has 700 days storage in Aswan Dam, China is a big country of huge population has the storage of 500 days whether India has the storage of 120-220 days. We are facing horrible shortage of water. We have to build dams at any cost otherwise after 10-15 years, Pakistan will be the land of deserts.
“Critics argue that if the dam is built, it would turn Sindh into a desert, but the experts are of the opinion that the province would get additional 4.75 million acre feet of water. Punjab would receive additional 2.04 MAF, Balochistan 1.56 MAF and K-P 2.01 MAF.”
The IEP Lahore chapter president Capt (r) Khalid Sajjad, addressing the seminar, said that a general consensus could not be reached as the dam issue has been much politicised. The civil society would have to play a crucial role in creating a larger consensus as new large water reservoirs would benefit every Pakistani, he said.
Engineer Khalid Sajjad said that the Institution of Engineers Pakistan is running a campaign to pave way for the construction of Kalabagh Dam, which is a lifeline for the country’s future. The IEP is holding seminars and discussions with experts to clear any misunderstandings impeding its materialization, he added.
He said that poverty, hunger and darkness would be our fate if we don’t build dams to store water, which is depleting fast. Nation will not forgive people who are opposing Kalabagh Dam for their own interests, he said. Khalid Sajjad stated that only because of government’s silence over KBD, the country is suffering a loss of Rs132 billion annually. This amount could be saved by initiating construction of the dam. He said that another significant aspect connected with the construction is the surety of sufficient amount of electricity at a much cheaper price. “The capacity of the dam is equal to the capacity of 750 medium dams. The country’s dependence on power generated through thermal sources is costing us a lot and we face formidable challenges in both national and international markets.

Sad to see such a lifeline for countries future being politicized. What a shame.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Weak nation when it comes to mega projects

I would have imprisioned whole PPP clan and MQM clan and built the dam and then deported all PPP clan out with out a penny and made them work for their roti

China is example of national agenda and goal , they constructed biggest DAM in world to prevent floods and example of SPIRIT