Kabul rejects army's claim of PAF attack being planned in Afghanistan

[Kakaspai]

Taliban control most of Afghanistan and here the afghan government is acting like the world doesn't know what they are upto

 

[Super Falcon]

Enough is enough send all refuges back cut of every link or talk with them cthere arelose their council in pak bring our basador back

Than we see what they can let india pay all bills for sending medicines food etc via air

Afghanistan is a core probleum we need to to what good for us all options should be open


The main probleum is to get rid of people like karzai and abdullah abdullah and their parties first

Than send all afghanis back

And ask USA to do more in afghanistan because afghanistan is iresponsible govt

 

[haviZsultan]

Afghanistan and the border is a constant problem for Pakistan and its people.

 

[IceCold]

I am tired of this BS. Army intercepted calls from Afghanistan, Afghanistan rejected (No surprise) question remains now what?
Any country with an ounce of respect and military the size of ours should have had given danda to Afghanistan but we only hear crap coming out from our government and ISPR.

 

[war&peace]

Respectfully disagree,

Afghan Taliban have been supported for years and no stability has come. The solution is to make a dialogue possible between Afghan Taliban and the Afghan govt.

And get the idiot Afghan Taliban to develop some political structure and become an armed pressure group like Hizbullah. If they think they can repeat the 1990s, this will lead to more bloodshed and greater instability.

Brother if you check before the US attack and take over Afghan Taliban had control over 95% of Afghanistan area. Single rule and single policy provided them the stability. There were no factions fighting and people were happy. Definitely they were not the most mature ones but it takes time to develop such skills. We can use our influence to soften them up over certain issues like girls education and women's rights etc. They will learn with time and we can help to accelerate the process. Their govt in Afghanistan will eliminate all these terrorist camps and hideouts that RAW is running and also the NDS bastards like ungrateful and shameless karzai who spent twenty years in Pakistan as a refugee and now barks against Pakistan. Such filth needs to be removed. We cannot please all, we need to watch for ourselves and Afghanistan. With current setup, Afghanistan will never get stable and these terrorist activities would continue....Mark my words.

 

[Paksanity]

I think Pak must have had shared such evidence of Afghan and Indian involvement, and TTP safe havens in Afgh with US also, numerous times... Even when Susan Rice was in Pak too, Pak would have shared info.... But again, nothing happened.... Fazlullah and khorasani and all such elements are still alive and they keep on saying do more to Pak... Its been a decade tht we have been hoping tht Afghans or US would do something about it.. Its high time now, Pak should do some action on its own..or keep waiting for further attacks like these in Pak

Afghanistan is a complicated place and needs to be handled carefully. US paid the price of hot-headed decision to go in all guns blazing. We shouldn't do the same.

Contrary to common belief, US -Pak cooperation on Afghanistan is all time high right now. Not everything that happens makes it to news. For sure we will go after them when we can find them. This should be done with participation of US forces. Without chest thumping and bragging. A swift and clean operation making a small news somewhere on page-3 of newspaper. Problem is dealing with NDS which shelters, trains, arms and finances TTP with Indian money. US won't overtly go against them and they have their commercial and strategic interests with India, their mentor. Magic names here are China and Russia. Pakistan is using both to offset Indian influence something India can't match. By offering trade access to Indian Ocean and addressing terrorism concerns of both Russia and China, Pakistan hopes to counteract toxic Indian influence. Add into the mix Gazprom which has been allowed to lay a gas pipeline inside Pakistan (north south orientation) and a partner in TAPI and you can see how Gen Raheel is building an alliance against Pakistan's enemies in Afghanistan. There is always a trade off in diplomacy so something has to be given in return. One is freezing Iran gas pipeline in favour of TAPI and second (I'm guessing here) is Pakistan's support against ISIS in Afghanistan. Facilitate US withdrawn is already a given and so is operation against Uighurs and Central Asian militants. One thing that remains to be solved is Iranian influence. In all of the above Iran is left out thus we see Iran-India nexus growing. Iran needs to be separated by tactful diplomacy. Participation in CPEC and some concessions in sanctions and may be a role in future Afghan projects are some likely options. The moment you get Iran on-board, India as well as TTP along with NDS are history.

 

[karan.1970]

I am tired of this BS. Army intercepted calls from Afghanistan, Afghanistan rejected (No surprise) question remains now what?
Any country with an ounce of respect and military the size of ours should have had given danda to Afghanistan but we only hear crap coming out from our government and ISPR.

The problem is that you cant give an overt danda, since that danda will get shoved right back (one way or the other) using American support. That is if at all Pakistan is able to demonstrate political and military will to do something overtly.

On the covert front, Afghanistan has nothing to lose given the space its in right now, and comparably, Pakistan is in a more vulnerable situation. And hence the no win situation for Pakistan

 

[IceCold]

The problem is that you cant give an overt danda, since that danda will get shoved right back (one way or the other) using American support. That is if at all Pakistan is able to demonstrate political and military will to do something overtly.

On the covert front, Afghanistan has nothing to lose given the space its in right now, and comparably, Pakistan is in a more vulnerable situation. And hence the no win situation for Pakistan

Its not that we lack the capability to give the Danda, its lack of decision making both political and military. Pakistan did strike in Afghanistan on previous occasions and without any so called danda coming back however its lately that our approach has turned more passive and hence my criticism.

 

[Humble Analyst]

We never learnt about terrorism.
Regards.

Only Chankiya

 

[karan.1970]

Its not that we lack the capability to give the Danda, its lack of decision making both political and military. Pakistan did strike in Afghanistan on previous occasions and without any so called danda coming back however its lately that our approach has turned more passive and hence my criticism.

As I said, its not the capability but the will. Because the possible repercussions of attacking Afghan soil (and I am not counting random, one off stand off attacks using Arty, missiles or rockets) without taking American permission really skews the risk reward ratio of this approach.

 

[halupridol]

The problem is that you cant give an overt danda, since that danda will get shoved right back (one way or the other) using American support. That is if at all Pakistan is able to demonstrate political and military will to do something overtly.

On the covert front, Afghanistan has nothing to lose given the space its in right now, and comparably, Pakistan is in a more vulnerable situation. And hence the no win situation for Pakistan

deja vu,,,hmm

 

[NIA]

Only Chankiya

Its chanakya
I didn't get you sorry.

 

[IceCold]

As I said, its not the capability but the will. Because the possible repercussions of attacking Afghan soil (and I am not counting random, one off stand off attacks using Arty, missiles or rockets) without taking American permission really skews the risk reward ratio of this approach.

Look man You and I, we cannot see things from the same perspective so let us agree to disagree.

And just so you know the attack i am talking about wasn't stand off using rockets and artillery but by our gunships which crossed over and bombed. This coupled with SSG should be our approach. US will not do jack about it. They are withdrawing and need Pakistan for it to happen successfully. They will not jeopardise it just because Pakistan bombed Afghanistan.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Its chanakya
I didn't get you sorry.

I meant to say was terrorism is not taught in school sure, but Chanakya is an approved form in dealings of life?

 

[Silverblaze]

Brother if you check before the US attack and take over Afghan Taliban had control over 95% of Afghanistan area. Single rule and single policy provided them the stability. There were no factions fighting and people were happy. Definitely they were not the most mature ones but it takes time to develop such skills. We can use our influence to soften them up over certain issues like girls education and women's rights etc. They will learn with time and we can help to accelerate the process. Their govt in Afghanistan will eliminate all these terrorist camps and hideouts that RAW is running and also the NDS bastards like ungrateful and shameless karzai who spent twenty years in Pakistan as a refugee and now barks against Pakistan. Such filth needs to be removed. We cannot please all, we need to watch for ourselves and Afghanistan. With current setup, Afghanistan will never get stable and these terrorist activities would continue....Mark my words.

again, respectfully disagree.

This concept that during the Taliban rule, everything was hunky dory is wrong. Taliban brought about the most vicious religious fundamentalism equaled only by ISIS now. Massacres and counter massacres were the norm. Pakistan media for obvious reasons did not report much.

One is sure that the majority of Pakistanis would never want such a govt in our own country.

So, there is no moral argument. They were a strategic proxy and thats it. Even that frankly did not help Pakistan as they used to harbor extremist elements in Afghanistan and refused to even respect the durand line let alone calling it a border.

Lt. General Mohiyudin haider ex governor sindh personally went to them and requested for extremists which was not honored.

Afghan Taliban need to develop a political structure and factionalism would have happened because one cannot keep a band together with sheer force.

Afghan Taliban need to get into Afghan framework if they are to have an impact.