JY-27A radar spotted in Pakistan

[Dazzler]

@Quwa @Signalian @Gryphon @Dazzler

Janes finally woke up.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Janes finally woke up.

So we have them???

 

[Nasr]

They claim about it not me , and I will be surprised if China gave us that Radar ,,,,,, Very hard to believe ,, Especially when Chinses know US presences in PAF.. They will never going to take that risk. Not that early .

The americans are there because they are afraid China may get their hands on Block-52s. China isn't afraid of americans being in Pakistan. We have the americans in a sardine can, tucked away in Jacobabad.

As for China sharing high tech radar with Pakistan is concerned, most Pakistanis don't realize the true strategic depth of Sino-Pak Alliance.

 

[Dazzler]

So we have them???

Yes

 

[313ghazi]

I'm glad we're remaining vigilant.

 

[Dazzler]

Ylc-18 is already acknowledged.

 

[Bratva]

Lol... Who told u we are not flying AWACS 24/7?? And what IAF did in balakot?? They did not crossed a mile into pakistan on that day

They Did cross into Pakistan. 5-6 NM. DG-ISPR admitted that much too

 

[Path-Finder]

what does this offer vis a vis TPS?

not a radar expert!

 

[OIO]

China Claims Its New Anti-Stealth Radars Can Detect the F-22

China showed off what it claims is an anti-stealth radar system at this month's Zhuhai Air Show. If true, the radar threatens to undo hundreds of billions in U.S. spending on stealth warplanes.

China showed off two anti-stealth radars at Zhuhai. The first, the JY-27A 3-D long-range surveillance/guidance radar, is a Very High Frequency (VHF) radar that, according to Shephard Media, is the Chinese military's first active-phased array radar. VHF radars, with their longer wavelengths, are more likely to detect stealth aircraft, and it's been known that China has been working on them for some time now.

Phased-array radars, unlike traditional "dish" radars, are flat panels composed of hundreds of smaller transmit/receive panels. While traditional radars are like turning on a flashlight in a dark room—everyone can see where the beam of light is coming from—phased array radars are more difficult to detect. They're also less susceptible to jamming.

The article states "There are unverified claims that the radar can pick up hostile stealth fighters at ranges of up to 500km (310 miles.)" If so, that would out-stick American stealth aircraft, revealing them before they could get into a fight.

Another anti-stealth radar on display at Zhuhai was the JY-26 Skywatcher-U. This radar works in a broader bandwidth, in VHF and Ultra-High Frequency bands. According to Shephard Media, it has a range of 310 miles and can track up to 500 targets at once. Intriguingly, it claims that while under development in Shandong, China it was able to track American F-22 Raptors flying over South Korea.

If this is true, the U.S. military could be in big trouble. The Pentagon has spent hundreds of billions on stealth technology over the past thirty years, on everything from the F-117A Nighthawk stealth fighter to the B-2 bomber and the F-22 Raptor. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter project is estimated to cost everyone involve more than a billion dollars. All of those planes could have been a lot cheaper if not for the hard work of making them stealth, and if that advantage turns out to be useless that is a ton of money mostly wasted.

While China's claim of detecting the F-22 sounds impressive, there is one awfully big caveat to go along with it. F-22 Raptors did briefly visit Osan Air Force Base in South Korea on February 17th, 2016. However, they were fitted with external fuel tanks that allowed them to easily make the trip from Kadena Air Force Base in Okinawa to Osan. Large drop tanks hanging off their wings would have ruined their stealthy profile, making them much more visible to radar, so it's not entirely surprising that a radar would have detected them.

Does this mean stealth is dead? Not every radar is a VHF radar, and stealth is still useful against radars that are not VHF. Stealth also likely decreases the range at which radars such as Skywatcher can acquire targets. Stealth is part of the package of essential features of a modern combat aircraft, as important as electronic countermeasures, radars, or and defensive systems. Stealth, whether anyone likes it or not, is here to stay.


https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a23846/china-anti-stealth-radars-detect-f-22/

Is it overkill?

 

[StormBreaker]

In fact, the development pattern of China's air defense systems is not the same as that of Russia.

Russia's air defense system like S-400 has several kinds of missiles for different purposes. Russia just wants to finish all the missions by using the same air defense system.

But China chooses to develop different air defense systems for different missions, just like what USA does.

So, China doesn't have an air defense system similar to S-400.

Ok but the one i am talking about, maybe named, HQ-21 or 20 or 19, can’t remember. Any words and specs?

 

[Umar Nazir]

is that true that Israel destroyed JY-27 radar in Syria by F35 air strike in feb this year ????????

 

[LKJ86]

Ok but the one i am talking about, maybe named, HQ-21 or 20 or 19, can’t remember. Any words and specs?

You should know the challenges that you face firstly, and then get what you need.

 

[IceCold]

is that true that Israel destroyed JY-27 radar in Syria by F35 air strike in feb this year ????????

So what if it is? Do understand that conflict depends upon a theater upon which it is happening and radars are but just one part of the dynamics. This is what i once said to another Pakistani poster that just because Israelis happen to Russian system in Syria does not mean Russian systems are junk and Pakistan will have a field day when it is up against Indians deploying similar systems but under different dynamics. The same stands true for Pakistan. If JY-27 got destroyed by Israel in Syria does not mean India will be able to destroy it in Pakistan. Different theaters and different dynamics.

 

[Beast]

They claim about it not me , and I will be surprised if China gave us that Radar ,,,,,, Very hard to believe ,, Especially when Chinses know US presences in PAF.. They will never going to take that risk. Not that early .

PAF allows Chinese to view US equipment secretly while never allow a single Chinese weapon secret leak to US. US double crossed Pakistan many times with abandoning then right after first Afghanistan war and 1998 nuclear weapons sanction by withholding 60 F-16 planes which money already paid upfront.

 

[LKJ86]

So what if it is? Do understand that conflict depends upon a theater upon which it is happening and radars are but just one part of the dynamics. This is what i once said to another Pakistani poster that just because Israelis happen to Russian system in Syria does not mean Russian systems are junk and Pakistan will have a field day when it is up against Indians deploying similar systems but under different dynamics. The same stands true for Pakistan. If JY-27 got destroyed by Israel in Syria does not mean India will be able to destroy it in Pakistan. Different theaters and different dynamics.

1. Can JY-27 protect itself?
2. Why would Israel choose to destroy JY-27, if JY-27 is useless?