Just how badly does the KP police treat Afghan refugees?

[Jaanbaz]

This is wrong. If you want to send them back, simply send them back but as usual Pakistani Police is using the new initiative as money making opportunity. Stop harassing random Afghans, this will not solve the terrorist problems. Just work with Afghanistan, tell them we are sending your people back. After that put them all on buses, mine and fence the Pak-Afg border.

And I do sympathise with many Afghan Pushtuns, some are good honest people and are not anti Pakistan, man are basically same as Pakistani Pushtuns, they should be allowed to stay in Pakistan as long as they are not involved in crimes. But wtf are Uzbeks and Tajiks doing in Pak? These scum bags are rabid Pakistani haters and probably provide intelligence to India.

 

[war&peace]

So you think having muslims friends from around the world will be equal to brotherhood? Even pakistanis and indians get along abroad does that mean all the issues between the two countries have been resolved?

I am friends with indians (non-Muslims), Arabs(Gulf), Arabs(Africa), Bangladeshi, Arabs(Northwest Africa), Iranians, Turkish, French, Swedes, and of course Americans. With some of the Indians, we have few cultural things common, we can talk to each other and similar food...but that is it similarities end there. They are nice people and very good friends but when it comes to india-pak or Hindu-Muslim, we run find ourselves in hot water. With Bangladeshi I found the most love despite they had misconceptions and Arabs really love us once you get past a certain threshold, they take a bit of time to open up, but then I found a lot more comfort, I can marry one of the Arab girls without any problem, we eat together, pray and celebrate eid and everything together. I felt the same love from Turkish people. With Indians, I have to go by rules, no drinking (from my side), no beef (from their side), we cannot pray together, I cannot marry a hindu girl. The Europeans are ok but there is no warmth in relationship generally except few who are my classmates and know me for a very long time (>10 yrs). The division we see is created by politicians brother. If truly Islamic teachings are accepted, there is no concept of countries based on nationality. We cannot have borders and passports. It will be a Dar-ul-Islam (comprising of all muslim countries) where anyone who is Muslim can enter and live, marry and have family without any fear. But do you think the establishments and the politicians will accept that?

 

[django]

But any forcefull repatriation will have serious blow backs

I doubt it will have any serious blowbacks as to say, however these folk can and will easily cross the Durand line and resume their activities unless their is a serious change in policies. I do agree with you that repatriation should be humanely carried, we should avoid using batons on elderly women as was demonstrated in Islamabad.

 

[Imran Khan]

shoot them not to arrest them . or else they must go back

 

[django]

Yes the criminals are undesirable and they should be dealt with severely and no discrimination should be made between Afghans and Pakistanis, but for Afghan criminals, if they are found involved in bigger crimes, should be punished and then deported to Afghanistan. If they are doing a great business, then they are asset for us especially if they are providing jobs. The only thing we need is to tell them to be loyal and thankful to the state of Pakistan, though criticising the govt and its policies is OK. If they can't be loyal and grateful then they should be requested to leave as soon as possible and no compromise on it.

In theory I agree with you, however how are we going to ascertain who is loyal or not, from personal experience some of the finest folks I have ever met have been Afghan refugees yet these very folks would never ever accept Pakistani citizenship due to their loyalties to their fatherland, and kudos to them, one can only admire such patriotism, at the same time their are plenty of pompous and arrogant Afghans who feel they are living in disputed territory in places such as Attock and it is their birthright to reside their, these folks I have no time for.kudos

 

[django]

especially uzbeks they have been involved in virtually every high profile terrorist attack
they have intermarried in the tribal areas and that has caused a lot of trouble

The Arab fighters have intermarried within the tribes, however the same luxury is not afforded to the Uzbeks, in the case of the Arabs ,the tribals erroneously believe that they and the Arabs are both the descendants of Ibrahim Ale-Salam. kudos

 

[Viper 94]

The Arab fighters have intermarried within the tribes, however the same luxury is not afforded to the Uzbeks, in the case of the Arabs ,the tribals erroneously believe that they and the Arabs are both the descendants of Ibrahim Ale-Salam. kudos

i thought it was both arabs and uzbeks
in the case of pashtuns I think it is our moral obligation to help them in their time of need and if the refugees want to become citizens they should be offered citizenship (based on good behaviour) or leave
but uzbeks and arabs shouldn't be our problem they need to get out ASAP they are bringing extremist ideology in the region

 

[s.k]

Good job kp police welldone

 

[rockstar08]

especially uzbeks they have been involved in virtually every high profile terrorist attack
they have intermarried in the tribal areas and that has caused a lot of trouble

the madarsas are full with Uzbek and Tajik , who come here for studies but never go back , and join these Jihadi fcuking Organizations .. and who give them shelter ? our Religious Parties , Afghans and they got support from the Pashtoons ..