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I am talking about making a difference in PML's majority in NA...we on the same page here?

It may make a difference in future election though if the proposed white paper from PTI is published and the alternatives and suggestions are given and implemented.

PTI may get one or two more seats, that is all - if that.

Jiss kaum ney Hamood ur Rahman Commission Report ko raddee mein daal diya ho, woh PTI key white paper ka toilet roll hee banai gee, aur koi umeed na rakhein.
 
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Most people were very naive...there was no way PTI was to form a government and IK and all the PTI leadership knew that.
A government in KPK and 30 odd seats (less than expected) is a big success for a nobody from 2 years back.
PTI expected around 50 seats in NA and so did the most critical analyst, rigging may have played it's part but this was expected.
Will it make a difference? No...is PTI pursuing it because it will make a difference? No.


Yes, BUT -- whereas an overwhelming majority was not in the cards, Punjab and Sindh, especially urban centers such as karachi, should have yielded a much higher margin, and even where there was a loss, the margins should not have been as wild as they were -- the managers of the election process appear to think that "Tabdeeli" and "Naya Pakistan" are ideas who time is not going come, at least not in their watch --- A Pashtun in KPK, even as the PTI's power base is in the Punjab, a Punjabi in Punjab, and the criminals of PPP and MQM can fight over KHI --

Yes, in a sense this is not defeat, but neither is it the flowering of the ideas behind Tabdeeli and Naya Pakistan - these are national ideas, not provincial.
 
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Yes, BUT -- whereas an overwhelming majority was not in the cards, Punjab and Sindh, especially urban centers such as karachi, should have yielded a much higher margin, and even where there was a loss, the margins should not have been as wild as they were -- the managers of the election process appear to think that "Tabdeeli" and "Naya Pakistan" are ideas who time is not going come, at least not in their watch --- A Pashtun in KPK, even as the PTI's power base is in the Punjab, a Punjabi in Punjab, and the criminals of PPP and MQM can fight over KHI --

Yes, in a sense this is not defeat, but neither is it the flowering of the ideas behind Tabdeeli and Naya Pakistan - these are national ideas, not provincial.

The urban centres which did not yield required results were Lahore and Sialkot etc. 4 seats were expected in Lahore, and in 122 and 125, there is overwhelming evidence of rigging, in these both seats, I genuinely believe that PTI would have won.

As for the tabdeeli ka nara, I do think PTI was a bit naive that people would suddenly shift away from feudal politics...they did not field enough feudal candidates, SMQ and Javed Hashmi and the sort did yield the results since they were big names.

All in all, it wasnt a disaster for PTI, but a moderate success IMO.
 
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Right. It won't make a difference. Baaki jo marzi ker lau.



This storm in a teacup will die down in a few weeks Saeenjee. Koi raula rappa nahi ho gaa.

Everything subsides... But as in all things Pakistani... One shosha is replaced by another shosha. Definitely it will subside with some other form of protests...
 
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@ Mesha Shafi tweets:

PMLN candidate Saad Rafique at polling station NA 125, DHA LHR. forcibly shuts doors for 90 mins to get stamps on shair. With police help!





@ Saba Hamid tweets

Saad rafiqs wife escorted by Punjab police sitting with polling agent women wing and tearing PTI ballot papers


@Awesome @Aeronaut



@Jazzbot you guys better pull yourself together and gather facts on rigging and complain about it too...

I am pretty much sure something would be done about it...
 
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the funny question is what happened to mqm not gathering ppl because of taliban, what happened to all those threats that they were getting
 
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@Leader

Mere munnay,it was a setup. Har kisi ko aik aik lollypop day dia taki bhonk shonk kay chup hojayen. Center main wohi aya jo paidaishi ghulam hai. "its better the devil you know".

Nothing will change until,the whole nizaaam is changed.
 
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@Leader

Mere munnay,it was a setup. Har kisi ko aik aik lollypop day dia taki bhonk shonk kay chup hojayen. Center main wohi aya jo paidaishi ghulam hai. "its better the devil you know".

Nothing will change until,the whole nizaaam is changed.

Sirjee, aisaa lagtaa hey keh north korea shift hotay hee kaafi aqal aa gaye hey aap ko.

I agree with you, may be I should move to North Korea too?
 
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@Leader

Mere munnay,it was a setup. Har kisi ko aik aik lollypop day dia taki bhonk shonk kay chup hojayen. Center main wohi aya jo paidaishi ghulam hai. "its better the devil you know".

Nothing will change until,the whole nizaaam is changed.

dont be a kuwain ka daddu like @Argus Panoptes.

you my friend are not one of them, you are change agent, non conformist and resilient soul, who smelled the fragrance of change, who touched the idea of liberation, who challenged the myth of independence, who dreamed of freedom...

dont listen to the voices of kuwain kay daddu..be your own boss, fight for what you have felt, its worth it !!

there will always be kuwain kay daddu who would try to drag you back in the well, but you listen to your heart, hear what it says.... :pissed:

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dont be a kuwain ka daddu like @Argus Panoptes.

you my friend are not one of them, you are change agent, non conformist and resilient soul, who smelled the fragrance of change, who touched the idea of liberation, who challenged the myth of independence, who dreamed of freedom...

dont listen to the voices of kuwain kay daddu..be your own boss, fight for what you have felt, its worth it !!

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@Leader bhaijan, Tussi jo vee aakho, kam az kam eh dhiyaan rakhna ken meri nazar kuwain key maindak sey thori see ziada vaseeh hey.

And please try to talk only about what I say without resorting to personal attacks, assuming of course you are capable of doing so.
 
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@Leader

Mere munnay,it was a setup. Har kisi ko aik aik lollypop day dia taki bhonk shonk kay chup hojayen. Center main wohi aya jo paidaishi ghulam hai. "its better the devil you know".

Nothing will change until,the whole nizaaam is changed.

Punjab Provincial Election Body sold for 25 Crore rupees confirmed.
 
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@Leader bhaijan, Tussi jo vee aakho, kam az kam eh dhiyaan rakhna ken meri nazar kuwain key maindak sey thori see ziada vaseeh hey.

And please try to talk only about what I say without resorting to personal attacks, assuming of course you are capable of doing so.

Sir app ki jab problems khatam ho jaye to merai sath bhe ek sitting kar lai,,, Cameray shameray ki tricks bhe seekh lu ga aur lagay hatho nazar waseee karnai wala suurma bhe lai lu ga :partay:
 
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