Jordan says will ‘take measures’ if Syrian refugee crisis not resolved

[MooshMoosh]

What would happen if every Muslim country became secular - would it stop you living a Salafi lifestyle, would it stop you praying, not smoking, not talking to girls? So what are you worried about. Just thank Allah every day that he has took you to a place where you can live and pray in peace and wish the same for all Muslims - be it in a secular country or not!

He is talking about the Muslim countries, not the West. You claim to be Muslim yet have no problem ruling secularism in Muslim countries?. "And whosoever does not rule by what Allah has revealed they are kaafiruun." (Qur'an, 5:44). Many mention that nationalism and secularism is haram in the land of Muslims. So, zip it.

I know there is an attempt to make an Islamic state in Syria but there are horrendous divisions and lets be honest, they aren't the brightest of people trying to enforce it. I actually have a lot of problems with them. They don't have the right fikh and are self centered.

It won't happen with idiotic people. We need Ikhwan in Syria who can achieve good results with the people especially.

They need to raise the generation and be good willed towards people they consider wrong. This is my problem with Bin Laden and his likes.

They disagreed with their teacher Abdullah Azzam and he had it better. That's probably why he was killed. I have contempt for some of their leadership and members are general.

We used to say this three years ago but today, all agreed upon major fronts that Syria will be an Islamic State, already stated on 2012 when Sharia court was established long before others emerged. Although, you have a point here that we have an Islamic leadership who want to rule this and that and on the other hand, we have an Islamic leadership from Iraq who wants to do the same but in the end they'll have to make an agreement on the table. Trust me on this, no infliction (fitna) will happen according to their official social sites, let the fitna-obsessed media do what they want.

Back to Sheikh Azzam; The reason why the scholars can't speak up about "politics" regarding to the Quran and the Hadith in Muslim countries because they are either under ruled by dictatorship or restrictions on freedom of speech imposed by monarchies as you can see numbers of scholars are behind bars in the Arabia and the recent one last month was Sheikh Ulwaan who spoke harshly on the rulers, regarding to the difficulties in the Muslim countries and going to soft being allied with the West which is very clear mentioned in the Quran warning about allying with them, when the KSA court offered him free after he was detained again after 8 years in prison "if he declare that the rulers of Saudi Arabia are legitimate rulers of the Muslims and declare that the courts of Saudi Arabia are ruled by Sharia, and not by the whims of kings (not according to the Law of Allah)". Instead, he said "Even if you cut off my head, I will not say that!" then he was sentence for 15 years in prison. Sadly, no one realized that if you're a Muslim then you need to recognize the Ummah as one body where Muslim is one body meaning no racism, no infliction but mention both as brothers and sisters. The reason why government are being blamed by allying with the West who are hurting the either occupied Muslim countries like Palestine, Kashmir and Chechen or ruled by dictators.

Another reason why Muslims are confused with the scholars who are being labelled as "terrorist" and there is no difference between them and any scholars who have well decent followers and sadly, Muslims labelling them as "terrorist" are either ignorant or were just deceived by the Western mainstream media who haven't realized the ones labelling as "terrorist" is the one defending the Muslims who were being oppressed. Even though, the Western media is not owned by Muslims but Jewish elites who have hatred against us yet they believe a mouth coming from them.

I don't what do you mean about the likes, there is no difference between Sheikh Azzam and Sheikh Usama since both spoke in powerful words, even Western owned documentary presenters had shown sympathy toward the Afghans view on him. Big difference between documentaries and mainstream media. If you're thinking of 9/11, it was a set up which was already known as fact as an excuse for several reason. Here is a decent worksheet on regarding Sheikh Azzam's viewpoint: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf

compared to what Bin Laden says:

And what is the flaw of the people of Afghanistan to be placed under siege by the international apostasy the United Nations which all the Arabs and Muslim nation are a part of and are to agreement with all its decisions and it had been authentically narrated that our prophet(saw) has said a women entered a hell fire because she confined a kitten. Neither did she feed it or allow it to search for food. O servant of Allah, regarding to the kitten, so what will we say tomorrow to our lord to regarding the killing of one million children that there was no might nor power with them. To Allah and upon we return.

Same goes to Anwar Al Awlaki (you should listen to his lectures/interviews):

“I fail to understand how, the Israeli soldier wearing his bullet proof vest, and his steel helmet, cowering behind the pile of sand bags and still runs away from the stones thrown by Palestinian children is courageous! While the Palestinian children charging at the soldiers full speed, armed with nothing but rocks and wearing nothing but trousers and t-shirts are cowards! I fail to understand that! And the American "heroic" soldiers, fighting from the comfort of their armoured Bradlees and Strikers but nevertheless boiling inside layers of bullet proof gear in the boiling heat of the Iraqi summer, are "courageous" while the Iraqi Mujahideen armed with nothing but the light weapons of Guerrilla war-fare are "cowards"! And what I really fail to understand, is how can the martyr, the Shaheed, who willingly and happily, hands over his soul to Allah, who walks towards his faith, with pleasure, and faces death with a smile, what I fail to understand is how can you call such a person a "coward"! But that is what they have been called. And that is what the parrots in the Muslim world have been repeating, that these peoples are cowards.”

The reason why Umar RA and the closest Sahabas had a fight over refusing being ruled as a Khalif after Abu Bakr RA was sick because they had take responsible for entire Muslims as they feared Allah. And again, our only concern is that we should fear the most is passing the test of Dunya and confronting Allah in the day of Judgement which is infinite worse than a pistol being pointed in your head during interrogation. Even if you're being relaxed in a 'celebrity' style in Dunya, you'll be laying down panicked by a black snake in the grave who will be mocking you and other than that several method will be used in the grave(kabur) depending what sins you committed.

You are right but we should distance ourselves from the views on Western countries because they are the majority, better and more dominantly whereas in the Muslim countries we are the majority but corrupted. Anyway, let's not talk about religious topics for now on, all I'm saying is the, we should have fear in ourselves and become united as one Ummah. Insha'Allah whether in our lifetime or not. it will happen as Allah had promised us this to happen.

 

[Falcon29]

He is talking about the Muslim countries, not the West. You claim to be Muslim yet have no problem ruling secularism in Muslim countries?. "And whosoever does not rule by what Allah has revealed they are kaafiruun." (Qur'an, 5:44). Many mention that nationalism and secularism is haram in the land of Muslims. So, zip it.



We used to say this three years ago but today, all agreed upon major fronts that Syria will be an Islamic State, already stated on 2012 when Sharia court was established long before others emerged. Although, you have a point here that we have an Islamic leadership who want to rule this and that and on the other hand, we have an Islamic leadership from Iraq who wants to do the same but in the end they'll have to make an agreement on the table. Trust me on this, no infliction (fitna) will happen according to their official social sites, let the fitna-obsessed media do what they want.

Back to Sheikh Azzam; The reason why the scholars can't speak up about "politics" regarding to the Quran and the Hadith in Muslim countries because they are either under ruled by dictatorship or restrictions on freedom of speech imposed by monarchies as you can see numbers of scholars are behind bars in the Arabia and the recent one last month was Sheikh Ulwaan who spoke harshly on the rulers, regarding to the difficulties in the Muslim countries and going to soft being allied with the West which is very clear mentioned in the Quran warning about allying with them, when the KSA court offered him free after he was detained again after 8 years in prison "if he declare that the rulers of Saudi Arabia are legitimate rulers of the Muslims and declare that the courts of Saudi Arabia are ruled by Sharia, and not by the whims of kings (not according to the Law of Allah)". Instead, he said "Even if you cut off my head, I will not say that!" then he was sentence for 15 years in prison. Sadly, no one realized that if you're a Muslim then you need to recognize the Ummah as one body where Muslim is one body meaning no racism, no infliction but mention both as brothers and sisters. The reason why government are being blamed by allying with the West who are hurting the either occupied Muslim countries like Palestine, Kashmir and Chechen or ruled by dictators.

Another reason why Muslims are confused with the scholars who are being labelled as "terrorist" and there is no difference between them and any scholars who have well decent followers and sadly, Muslims labelling them as "terrorist" are either ignorant or were just deceived by the Western mainstream media who haven't realized the ones labelling as "terrorist" is the one defending the Muslims who were being oppressed. Even though, the Western media is not owned by Muslims but Jewish elites who have hatred against us yet they believe a mouth coming from them.

I don't what do you mean about the likes, there is no difference between Sheikh Azzam and Sheikh Usama since both spoke in powerful words, even Western owned documentary presenters had shown sympathy toward the Afghans view on him. Big difference between documentaries and mainstream media. If you're thinking of 9/11, it was a set up which was already known as fact as an excuse for several reason. Here is a decent worksheet on regarding Sheikh Azzam's viewpoint: http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/defence.pdf

compared to what Bin Laden says:

Same goes to Anwar Al Awlaki (you should listen to his lectures/interviews):

The reason why Umar RA and the closest Sahabas had a fight over refusing being ruled as a Khalif after Abu Bakr RA was sick because they had take responsible for entire Muslims as they feared Allah. And again, our only concern is that we should fear the most is passing the test of Dunya and confronting Allah in the day of Judgement which is infinite worse than a pistol being pointed in your head during interrogation. Even if you're being relaxed in a 'celebrity' style in Dunya, you'll be laying down panicked by a black snake in the grave who will be mocking you and other than that several method will be used in the grave(kabur) depending what sins you committed.

You are right but we should distance ourselves from the views on Western countries because they are the majority, better and more dominantly whereas in the Muslim countries we are the majority but corrupted. Anyway, let's not talk about religious topics for now on, all I'm saying is the, we should have fear in ourselves and become united as one Ummah. Insha'Allah whether in our lifetime or not. it will happen as Allah had promised us this to happen.

I have no clue what this guy is rambling about. He must think he came up with a great post I hear over and over again. And he doesn't know what or how I'm living here. Then he calls me a salafi, LOL! As if following basic tenets of Islam makes you a salafi, and he says it in a way in which a salafi is more religious than a regular Sunni. That's not true.