Jordan is not happy with Chinese CH-4B Armed Drones.

[cabatli_53]

I also don’t get the logic behind their excuses. The countries mostly invite producers to test the systems on field to see plus/minus of the products. If they had invited producers to introduce effectiveness of systems in front of their military experts, they would had realized the defficiency at the beggining but now, as consequences of their shopping mentality, they are planning to retire those Chinese drones 3 years after induction which is something like to throw your public money into dust-bin.

Arab Countries should take serious lesson from Pakistan about How to handle military acquisition programs. They have invited Turkey to check/test Milgem, T-129 Atak, AselPod, Software defined radios, Korkut SPAAG, tank subsystems, thermals (many other programs that will be revealed into public in following) to withness the effectiveness of them against Chinese equivalents and selected the best quality instead of propaganda. It may hurt the feeling of some fanboys in forums but This way of purchase should be followed by all states including Jordan not to waste public money into useless things.

 

[damm1t]

Chinese of PDF once again proved that they can't contribute to the topics with counter arguments or intelligent posts. Behaviour like teeneagers as always..

 

[Beast]

Chinese of PDF once again proved that they can't contribute to the topics with counter arguments or intelligent posts. Behaviour like teeneagers as always..

Using Twitter post just proves how mature u are? Bragging about a lab turboshaft and start thinking u are far ahead? That actiob I believe is no different from fanboy. You Turkish shall look into mirror before spewing rubbish.

I also don’t get the logic behind their excuses. The countries mostly invite producers to test the systems on field to see plus/minus of the products. If they had invited producers to introduce effectiveness of systems in front of their military experts, they would had realized the defficiency at the beggining but now, as consequences of their shopping mentality, they are planning to retire those Chinese drones 3 years after induction which is something like to throw your public money into dust-bin.

Arab Countries should take serious lesson from Pakistan about How to handle military acquisition programs. They have invited Turkey to check/test Milgem, T-129 Atak, AselPod, Software defined radios, Korkut SPAAG, tank subsystems, thermals (many other programs that will be revealed into public in following) to withness the effectiveness of them against Chinese equivalents and selected the best quality instead of propaganda. It may hurt the feeling of some fanboys in forums but This way of purchase should be followed by all states including Jordan not to waste public money into useless things.

Your TA-129 beat Chinese Z-10 becos of an American engine. Removing the American and your attack Helo is nothing.. it's good that u come here to let Pakistanis know the truth. They now hesitate to buy your incomplete product which is restricted. The fact AH-1Z gunship deal suspend will even convinced them not to get an attack Helo with american stuff.

 

[cabatli_53]

I checked the general situation and realized that It is not actually fault of Jordan or any other Arab states purchasing Chinese drones. US doesn’t sell armed drones to even NaTO allies and impose NaTO states not to share this technology with non-NATO states under the terms of MTCR. Russia and Europe doesn’t have armed drone in product portfolio at present and Israel is not even in that list to trade for Arabs. Only usefull adress remained is China for Arabs in this circumstances. If there would be a fair competition, I don’t think Chinese drone will find a chance in markets. Such news may hurt the big egoes of some Chinese fanboys but Anyway, the news are there with a credible source. We will see whether other Arab states will take similar steps. Time will prove...

 

[Beast]

I checked the general situation and realized that It is not actually fault of Jordan or any other Arab states purchasing Chinese drones. US doesn’t sell armed drones to even NaTO allies and impose NaTO states not to share this technology with non-NATO states under the terms of MTCR. Russia and Europe doesn’t have armed drone in product portfolio at present and Israel is not even in that list to trade for Arabs. Only usefull adress remained is China for Arabs in this circumstances. If there would be a fair competition, I don’t think Chinese drone will find a chance in markets. Such news may hurt the big egoes of some Chinese fanboys but Anyway, the news are there with a credible source. We will see whether other Arab states will take similar steps. Time will prove...

How does it hurt us when we have dominated the UCAV market and sold to more than a countries. You are just a plain sourgraped after I humiliates u on your TFX thread. We already have a workable fourth gen thrust vector engine and going to install in our J-20 to complete the 5th while your TFX still stuck in drawing board and still depend on American engine. You Turkish industries are inferior to Chinese independent one. Plain sourgraped and can't accept Chinese superiority over turkish.

 

[cabatli_53]

How does it hurt us when we have dominated the UCAV market and sold to more than a countries. You are just a plain sourgraped after I humiliates u on your TFX thread. We already have a workable fourth gen thrust vector engine and going to install in our J-20 to complete the 5th while your TFX still stuck in drawing board and still depend on American engine. You Turkish industries are inferior to Chinese independent one. Plain sourgraped and can't accept Chinese superiority over turkish.

I didn’t see anybody out of you who compare Turkey with China in forum. I didn’t see anybody out of you who spreads misinformation about Turkey in Pakistani procurement subjects and I didn’t see anybody different from you coming Turkish section for trolling and pissing contest like typical fanboys. If you regularly target Turkey, It means you have a huge pain hurting your feeling regarding Turkey. Grow up firstly before talking about matters you don’t have any idea. The issue is about failed Chinese drone in Jordan but you put your J-20, nozzle and “we have 5th generation but you don’t” like childish things to prove How China is superior than Turkey. It is actually a pleasure for us to be taken such serious after losing many tenders against Turkish institutes but I advice you to take your pills to have a good sleep. You are burning deep inside but at least learn to make a proper discussion instead of converting every single thread into a pissing contest with same memorized sentences. “Lack of Quality” is a wellknown issue for Chinese products and Jordan issue is an example for the continuation of this tradition. Motivate yourself to prove otherwise instead of attacking other states beating your products in tenders.

 

[royalharris]

haha, i am not happy with CH4B, i want to get CH5, simple as this

just like phones, i used iphone, later shift huawei p6, then huawei ,huawei ,huawei...
Oh, huawei P20 is great, i want to shift again

Big deals [over 21.2 billion U.S. dollars] inked at Airshow China
CH7 is still a model, already get several prepayed order from oversea customers

 

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haha, i am not happy with CH4B, i want to get CH5, simple as this

Wing Loong series is my favourite..

 

[royalharris]

China and turkey should have a better relation

Past is past
It is more than 1000 years already，you guys just can not let it go in your heart
To be honest，after you moved to anatolia，you have done a great job

Check the geopolitics，it is unnecessary for china and turkey to be enemy
you aslo should know who is your real enemy

 

[xbat]

when we say it is a cheap product, Chinese guys get irritated but the camera on ANKA is about 1mn$ and whole ch4 is about same amount of money. It sells many because of its price and available for every country.

 

[royalharris]

when we say it is a cheap product, Chinese guys get irritated but the camera on ANKA is about 1mn$ and whole ch4 is about same amount of money. It sells many because of its price and available for every country.

Ok，Turkish UAV better than chinese UAV，happy？

 

[Beast]

I didn’t see anybody out of you who compare Turkey with China in forum. I didn’t see anybody out of you who spreads misinformation about Turkey in Pakistani procurement subjects and I didn’t see anybody different from you coming Turkish section for trolling and pissing contest like typical fanboys. If you regularly target Turkey, It means you have a huge pain hurting your feeling regarding Turkey. Grow up firstly before talking about matters you don’t have any idea. The issue is about failed Chinese drone in Jordan but you put your J-20, nozzle and “we have 5th generation but you don’t” like childish things to prove How China is superior than Turkey. It is actually a pleasure for us to be taken such serious after losing many tenders against Turkish institutes but I advice you to take your pills to have a good sleep. You are burning deep inside but at least learn to make a proper discussion instead of converting every single thread into a pissing contest with same memorized sentences. “Lack of Quality” is a wellknown issue for Chinese products and Jordan issue is an example for the continuation of this tradition. Motivate yourself to prove otherwise instead of attacking other states beating your products in tenders.

Self denial. Ask your dear MMM-E and dai toruko who has an inferiority complex towards far superior Chinese technology. Constantly come and troll and stupid Turkish article bragging like nobody business. We are return the favour and let the world see who is real power.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

To be honest, china and turkey should have a better relation

They have actually. What we're witnessing here on PDF is just about two online communities not able to get along. In reality, the Turkish government is as close as never to Bejing. Currently, there is almost zero China bashing in the Turkish main stream media even though the Western media is focusing on the persecution of the Uighur minority.

You may not believe it but AKP is the party who has a more realistic approach towards China than any other one in Turkey. Every other party is much, much more anti-Chinese than AKP.

Personally, I am strictly anti-Cmmunist and that's why I criticize China and love Taiwan at the same time.

 

[Beast]

when we say it is a cheap product, Chinese guys get irritated but the camera on ANKA is about 1mn$ and whole ch4 is about same amount of money. It sells many because of its price and available for every country.

Sourgraped spotted. Our drone had sold to many countries, even more than US. Cried all you can.

 

[Test7]

it's really boring to see these trolls every day. You don't need to say #1 for China, we don't believe it.
We are not here for this.