Joint statement issued after strategic dialogue with US; Kashmir recognised as a dispute

[ito]

and Pakistan doesn't need India to say it disputed or not but indeed the purpose of it to be declared disputed by the world and the same is served or started to be. Rest about influence, I do not understand that even speaking about right thing becomes the influencing element on India.

Typing words in PDF is quite different from influencing the world against India. Tibet was a big issue before China became powerful and rich. Now, nobody knows where Tibet is. Influencing against India that is fast growing and large is beyond the capabilities of Pakistan.

 

[The Eagle]

Typing words in PDF is quite different from influencing the world against India. Tibet was a big issue before China became powerful and rich. Now, nobody knows where Tibet is. Influencing against India that is fast growing and large is beyond the capabilities of Pakistan.

Expressing the same at PDF is more easy but there is a reality happening in the world that has to be accepted or either to live in illusions. Influence has proven by ousting the India from Afghan Peace Talks & recent F-16s deal, rest is history. Under-estimating someone, is not a wise thing and Pakistan is a growing power but would be hard for India to accept indeed.

 

[ito]

Expressing the same at PDF is more easy but there is a reality happening in the world that has to be accepted or either to live in illusions. Influence has proven by ousting the India from Afghan Peace Talks & recent F-16s deal, rest is history. Under-estimating someone, is not a wise thing and Pakistan is a growing power but would be hard for India to accept indeed.

Nobody is underestimating Pakistan. Influence is relative, and equating some 8 F-16s to Kashmir show how naive you are? Kashmir is central to India as a country, while other issues such as F16, Afghan talks etc..are transient.

Anyway, you can try influencing the world against India. Good luck.

 

[The Eagle]

Influence is relative, and equating some 8 F-16s to Kashmir show how naive you are?

Such subject was quoted to make it easy to you to understand what influence could be, but your reply with a personal judgment verifies your approach for presenting the view. You have no right for insult.

Kashmir is central to India as a country, while other issues such as F16, Afghan talks etc..are transient.

Anyway, you can try influencing the world against India. Good luck.

Such deal since months back there, was also very central that India has called upon the ambassador, shows how valued the deal is. Indeed it is called influence the world by India's view but we practice it like doing the right thing and supporting the right cause. Thanks for wishing luck BTW.

 

[ito]

Such subject was quoted to make it easy to you to understand what influence could be, but your reply with a personal judgment verifies your approach for presenting the view. You have no right for insult.



Such deal since months back there, was also very central that India has called upon the ambassador, shows how valued the deal is. Indeed it is called influence the world by India's view but we practice it like doing the right thing and supporting the right cause. Thanks for wishing luck BTW.

Now you are saying F16s, Afghan talks etc.. are equivalent to Kashmir for India. I am sure your own countrymen would not agree. Now please excuse me. I don't have time tantrums.

 

[The Eagle]

Now you are saying F16s, Afghan talks etc.. are equivalent to Kashmir for India. I am sure your own countrymen would not agree. Now please excuse me. I don't have time tantrums

Did i say.... Afghan talks and F-16s were quoted to show you an example of influence alone. It was you first quoted me though you are already excused. Have a nice time.

 

[Endeavour]

If thats the case, why dont pakistan discuss kashmir with US only , why are they bothering us ?

We dont mind if you both keep discussing and labelling kashmir as much as you want on the table till eternity. Just dont bother us and dont come to our doorstep.

 

[Great Sachin]

So much for the the Indian claim that " KASHMIR " is no longer an disputed territory.

After 70 years ..you are still happy for Kashmir to be called disputed territory....good luck

 

[ito]

Did i say.... Afghan talks and F-16s were quoted to show you an example of influence alone. It was you first quoted me though you are already excused. Have a nice time.

You implied that by calling F16 a central issue too when I said Kashmir is the central to India as a country. You seem not to have any idea what Kashmir means to India. This is an issue where India is risking total nuclear annihilation, has sacrificed 1000's of young soldiers since last 70 years in proxy wars and common Indians to terrorism emanating across the border, and spends billions of dollars on securing LOC and on armed forces. Do you think Kashmir for India is a joke?

 

[The Eagle]

You implied that by calling F16 a central issue too when I said Kashmir is the central to India as a country. You seem not to have any idea what Kashmir means to India. This is an issue where India is risking total nuclear annihilation, has sacrificed 1000's of young soldiers since last 70 years in proxy wars and common Indians to terrorism emanating across the border, and spends billions of dollars on securing LOC and on armed forces. Do you think Kashmir for India is a joke?

Don't know what is on your mind while quoting me... where did i say anything about Indian intention for Kashmir......?

Rest about your lost soldiers then they were resisted by the freedom fighters and rest about lost of lives in terrorism, I hope you wouldn't have any issue how much Pakistan lost and still continue which is more support by proxy lovers and most of the signs shows India so this is a game that once again got the pace and will continue until & unless the perpetrators and terrorists are not eliminated from the face of this earth. Spending billions of dollars on armed forces is a clear sign of India is in love of fantasy of military region and show off by the power but wouldn't succeed. Biggest defence budget wouldn't serve your people with their basic rights and neither is in the favour of Pakistan as well if Pakistan start to spend that much on arms only. These funding should be utilized for betterment of humanity and nation so the chances of resistance will minimize to none almost but being aggrieved, people sees other ways and India is digging own way towards whatever she is headed.

IOK is indeed a disputed land and Pakistan will keep supporting the cause and rest about what it is for India, then one thing so far that I can understand by handling of India in IOK, validates that India is just killing people to put pressure and show her military strength to save the face otherwise, such Kashmiri death toll wouldn't be the part of history. India has made it the issue of ego otherwise should have handed it over to the people of Kashmir.

 

[ito]

Don't know what is on your mind while quoting me... where did i say anything about Indian intention for Kashmir......?

Rest about your lost soldiers then they were resisted by the freedom fighters and rest about lost of lives in terrorism, I hope you wouldn't have any issue how much Pakistan lost and still continue which is more support by proxy lovers and most of the signs shows India so this is a game that once again got the pace and will continue until & unless the perpetrators and terrorists are not eliminated from the face of this earth. Spending billions of dollars on armed forces is a clear sign of India is in love of fantasy of military region and show off by the power but wouldn't succeed. Biggest defence budget wouldn't serve your people with their basic rights and neither is in the favour of Pakistan as well if Pakistan start to spend that much on arms only. These funding should be utilized for betterment of humanity and nation so the chances of resistance will minimize to none almost but being aggrieved, people sees other ways and India is digging own way towards whatever she is headed.

IOK is indeed a disputed land and Pakistan will keep supporting the cause and rest about what it is for India, then one thing so far that I can understand by handling of India in IOK, validates that India is just killing people to put pressure and show her military strength to save the face otherwise, such Kashmiri death toll wouldn't be the part of history. India has made it the issue of ego otherwise should have handed it over to the people of Kashmir.

May be Kashmir is an ego issue for Pakistan...it is certainly not for India. Anyway you are welcome to fight India. I don't have any issue on that.

Please don't talk on behalf of Kashmiris. Srinagar is 100 times more peaceful than your Karachi. And lets not talk about atrocities by armed forces on innocent people. I can post 100's of such photos by Pakistan armed forces in Baluchistan, FATA, Waziristan and in P0K.

 

[The Eagle]

May be Kashmir is an ego issue for Pakistan...it is certainly not for India. Anyway you are welcome to fight India. I don't have any issue on that

We are supporting the Kashmiris for their rights...... Fight is not a solution and that is what intended in joint statement.

Please don't talk on behalf of Kashmiris.

Not on behalf only but for Kashmiris.

Srinagar is 100 times more peaceful than your Karachi. And lets not talk about atrocities by armed forces on innocent people. I can post 100's of such photos by Pakistan armed forces in Baluchistan, FATA, Waziristan and in P0K

Karachi is also plagued with India's beloved party so the people suffered but we have almost minimized the threat and soon will be wiped out indeed. Rest about the Indian conspiracy theory based upon ill feeding due to the hatred against Pak Military is not a valued subject to discuss at all but India's pain due to the defeat in all those mentioned areas is worth seeing here. Even if you want to drag-in more subjects, wouldn't overcome the rise of Kashmiris rights at all.

The reality in Kashmir is totally different and they are fighting since 1947, for their birth right of independence though India's military is getting payback. Do you have the idea of lives lost in Kashmir beside the rapes count, I hope you will understand and try to think about it on humanitarian grounds as well. Being patriot is not bad but it damages the face of mankind sometimes.