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John Kerry has condemned as dangerous and provocative a military encounter in the Baltic Sea that the US has described as a “simulated attack” on a destroyer by two Russian warplanes.

“We condemn this kind of behavior. It is reckless. It is provocative. It is dangerous. And under the rules of engagement that could have been a shoot-down,” the US secretary of state said in an interview with CNN Español and the Miami Herald.

“People need to understand that this is serious business and the United States is not going to be intimidated on the high seas … We are communicating to the Russians how dangerous this is and our hope is that this will never be repeated.”

The repeated flights by the Sukhoi SU-24 bombers on Tuesday, which also flew near the ship, the USS Donald Cook, a day earlier, were so close they created wake in the water, a US official said on Wednesday.

It was one of the most aggressive interactions between the two former cold war foes in recent memory, the official said, although the planes carried no visible weaponry.

A Russian KA-27 Helix helicopter also made passes around the vessel, taking pictures. The nearest Russian territory was about 70 nautical miles away in its enclave of Kaliningrad, which sits between Lithuania and Poland.

In Moscow, Interfax news agency quoted a Russian defense ministry spokesman, Igor Konashenkov, as saying on Thursday that the crews of the Russian bombers that flew near the US destroyer respected all safety rules.

A state department spokesman, John Kirby, said Kerry will raise the incident with the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov.

The White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, told reporters at a daily press briefing that Washington had raised its concerns with Russian officials.

“I can tell you that that communication has occurred, and we’ll seek to resolve our differences through well-established military channels,” he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ssian-military-incident-us-warship-baltic-sea

Here's youtube video showing SU-24 bombers flying too low around Americans on Donald Cook Destroyer

 
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...well, question is: why the "Cook" need to be several kms from russian border (really passing long the edge of Ru-border) ... and they want shoot the plane down in there, ok. ...
 
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...well, question is: why the "Cook" need to be several kms from russian border (really passing long the edge of Ru-border) ... and they want shoot the plane down in there, ok. ...

No, that is not a question.
International Waters are free for everyone.
Passing half a meter from the border means that You have no more rights than Zimbabwe.
Only when they are within the borders, You have rights to a view.
 
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No, that is not a question.
International Waters are free for everyone.
Passing half a meter from the border means that You have no more rights than Zimbabwe.
Only when they are within the borders, You have rights to a view.
...somewhat the same applies to the plane passing some more meters away from the "cook" ain't it, .. or should it be downed for that (...anyways, .. "cook" would sink after that..)
 
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...somewhat the same applies to the plane passing some more meters away from the "cook" ain't it, .. or should it be downed for that (...anyways, .. "cook" would sink after that..)

No, a warplane passing 10 meters from a ship,
is more like driving 2 meters behind the car in front of You at 110 kph. It is reckless driving.
A ship passing 1 meter from a border is not.

Unlike driving a car, which is governed by law, international relations is governed by treatys.
In this case, there is a treaty between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R., which I think
Russia considers they are bound by, which governs the behaviour in this case.

What should happen, if the pilots has broken the treaty, is that they should be grounded,
and Russia should apologize, like any decent person, when he breaks an agreement.
 
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and so is the air over international waters. If it is ok for the US ship to sail through so is it for the Russian jets to buzz through, why are they bitching then?


No, that is not a question.
International Waters are free for everyone.
Passing half a meter from the border means that You have no more rights than Zimbabwe.
Only when they are within the borders, You have rights to a view.
 
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“We condemn this kind of behavior. It is reckless. It is provocative. It is dangerous. And under the rules of engagement that could have been a shoot-down,” the US secretary of state said in an interview with CNN Español and the Miami Herald.

Turks had more balls they simply did not give sh!t....intrusion..shoot it down.boom!
 
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and so is the air over international waters. If it is ok for the US ship to sail through so is it for the Russian jets to buzz through, why are they bitching then?

Not really, since they signed a treaty, not to buzz each other.
 
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but isn't the US ship also "buzzing" close to their border? they have the right to check
 
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but isn't the US ship also "buzzing" close to their border? they have the right to check

As someone pointed out, if the ship sailed into the Polish port of Gdynia, they would have been closer to Russia.
Not buzzing in any way.

Right to check does not include flying 10 meters from the ship.
That is childish behaviour, and unprofessional.
 
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Well the US could have done a lot of things but they didn't.
Apparently their wasn't any NATO ally with them so they couldn't take any actions.
 
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Turks had more balls they simply did not give sh!t....intrusion..shoot it down.boom!

It appears as if US and Russia are again going for something like Cold war......Very interesting to see what will China do?
 
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