Joe Biden: "Name one innovative product from China"

[sweetgrape]

Largest autmobile maker in US is Toyota Motor Corp. And no, its not GM.

Toyota is not going bankrupt.

Don't talk too much, yes, now, you Japan is good in technology, but can prove you are better than Chinese? just momentary "victory", keep laughing at us, what you are, we chinese know well.

 

[UnChosen]

Actually innovation isn't nearly as important as marketing power, branding, and capital.

The actual tech and innovation behind the iPhone pales in comparison to the marketing power of Apple.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

All the so-called modern inventions by Japan are not self-reliant, these things are nothing without being served as part of the US integral technology system.

For example, Boeing 787 has 1/3 of the components made by Japan, but Japan by its own cannot design and build a Boeing 787.

So all the Japanese technologies are primarily used to serve the main integral technology system of the US. Without the US, they are nothing.

 

[Aepsilons]

Don't talk too much, yes, now, you Japan is good in technology, but can prove you are better than Chinese? just momentary "victory", keep laughing at us, what you are, we chinese know well.

We don't really care what you think about us.

All the so-called modern inventions by Japan are not self-reliant, these things are nothing without being served as part of the US integral technology system.

For example, Boeing 787 has 1/3 of the components made by Japan, but Japan by its own cannot design and build a Boeing 787.

So all the Japanese technologies are primarily used to serve the main integral technology system of the US. Without the US, they are nothing.

Well considering the US is a major trading partner, it becomes an objective doesnt it?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Actually innovation isn't nearly as important as marketing power, branding, and capital.

The actual tech and innovation behind the iPhone pales in comparison to the marketing power of Apple.

Actually Apple's innovation is IN the marketing. The technology is average, the marketing is what makes their economic performance spectacular.

 

[Beast]

China start slower than Japan and US in industrialisation, of cos we are a little behind. Japan shall be ashamed of yourself that you have 100 years of idustrialisation and yet still not able to get number one spot.

We took only 30 years to knock Japan out of 2nd spot and another 10 years. China will be the number one and biggest. Japan then need to bow to Chinese for survival.

 

[xunzi]

Lenovo? LOL! That's cheap crap. Breaks easy.

Everyone thinks of Sony, Toshiba, or MAC.

Your Sony success today is selling INSURANCE. LOL You are about to quit and get out of electronic business because you can't compete with Lenovo in PC and Smartphone. Get your fact straight!

None of your products are revolutionary and are copy and design from the USA. Gaming console, we ban them in China until recently; otherwise we would dominate like today. Speaking of high-tech product with chip, airplane, OS, were would you Japan anyway?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We don't really care what you think about us.



Well considering the US is a major trading partner, it becomes an objective doesnt it?

And neither we do care your opinion about us, since you are now too weak to be an eligible challenger for us.

 

[Aepsilons]

Actually Apple's innovation is IN the marketing. The technology is average, the marketing is what makes their economic performance spectacular.

Marketing alone will fail without the product that delivers. Its complementary.

 

[sweetgrape]

When the world thinks of Japan the word "Quality" comes to mind. When they think of China the word "Quantity" comes to mind.

Now, in all things, always choose quality over quantity.

hehe, yes, I agree, but do you know the history of Japanese product, before, japanese products means good quality? and the thread is about innovation, tell me, how much thing did you japanese copid from China and Western? maybe you don't remeber that or deny that, right?

Still that word, don't rush to judge it too early.

 

[razgriz19]

List of Chinese inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Beast]

Actually Apple's innovation is IN the marketing. The technology is average, the marketing is what makes their economic performance spectacular.

90% of apple product are made in China. Credit shall goes to Foxconn China too.

 

[Aepsilons]

And neither we do care your opinion about us, and you are now too weak to be an eligible challenger for us.

China is a nation that will always be secondary to our national interest. China does not command awe from us. Awe and respect is reserved for the United States; the only country who defeated us in war.

hehe, yes, I agree, but do you know the history of Japanese product, before, japanese products means good quality? and the thread is about innovation, tell me, how much thing did you japanese copid from China and Western? maybe you don't remeber that or deny that, right?

Still that word, don't rush to judge it too early.

You're evading the reality.

 

[xunzi]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/technology/sony-to-sell-pc-unit-amid-dwindling-sales.html

After Losses, Yet Another Overhaul for Sony
By ERIC PFANNERFEB. 6, 2014

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Sony Vaio computers displayed in the Sony Building in Tokyo.CreditChristopher Jue/European Pressphoto Agency

• While previous divestitures have involved peripheral operations in areas like chemicals, now Sony is ridding itself of a brand and a business: Vaio computers, which it once considered central to its ambitions of keeping pace with global technology powers like Apple and Samsung Electronics. And it is positioning itself at arm’s length from television sets, a sector in which its Trinitron and Bravia TVs once set the standards in picture quality and brand image.
  
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  Kazuo Hirai, Sony’s chief executive.CreditKazuhiro Nogi/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
  “Sony has had bigger cuts,” said Damian Thong, an analyst at Macquarie Securities. “But these are, in some ways, the most meaningful cuts.”
  
  While Sony’s problems reflect a broader crisis in the Japanese electronics industry, other companies like Panasonic have moved more aggressively to revamp operations. Panasonic, which has been pulling out of certain consumer electronics markets, like smartphones, and focusing more on behind-the-scenes businesses like batteries for electric cars, this week reported that its quarterly earnings more than tripled.
  
  While some investors and analysts have urged Sony to get out of consumer electronics entirely, the chief executive, Kazuo Hirai, reiterated on Thursday that he wanted to rebuild around promising areas like game consoles and smartphones.
  
  Those businesses showed progress in the quarter ended in December. Sony reported a “significant increase in sales of smartphones” as well as a big jump in operating income in its game division after the introduction of the PS4 console.
  
  Over all, the company reported net income of 27 billion yen, or $267 million, after a loss of ¥10.8 billion a year earlier. Sales rose to ¥2.41 trillion from ¥1.95 trillion, though the main factor was a weaker yen, which increases the value of overseas sales when converted into the home currency.
  
  But investors have gotten used to a dose of bad news after any sign of improvement from Sony, and Thursday brought no exception, with the new estimate of the loss for the current fiscal year, which ends in March, after a previous forecast of a profit of ¥30 billion ($296 million). While much of the expected loss will come from revamping costs, Sony also lowered its full-year sales forecast for smartphones to 40 million from 42 million.
  
  At a news conference in Tokyo, Mr. Hirai described the agreement to sell the PC unit to the investment fund Japan Industrial Partners as an “agonizing decision.” Sony said it planned to keep a 5 percent stake in the new PC company to be formed from the sale. Other terms, including the price, remain subject to negotiation, Sony said.
  
  Japan Industrial Partners specializes in buying unwanted assets from Japanese electronics giants, including companies like NEC and Olympus. Based in Tokyo, it was founded in 2002 by Hidemi Moue, who previously worked at a venture capital firm called Mobile Internet Capital.
  
  Just last week, it agreed to buy an Internet service provider from the Japanese information technology giant NEC. In 2012, the firm paid $676 million for the mobile telecommunications unit of the camera maker Olympus, which was embroiled in scandal.
  
  Japan Industrial Partners has teamed up over the years with Bain Capital of Boston. In 2007, the two firms bought SunTelephone, a Japanese telecommunications and equipment leasing company.
  
  Japan Industrial Partners “believes that with its support, the new company that will operate the Vaio-branded PC business will be able to achieve future growth and profitability and meet the expectations of Vaio customers by leveraging the wealth of innovative design expertise and operational know-how accumulated by Sony within the PC business,” the companies said in a statement.
  
  Along with televisions, PCs have been a particular drag on Sony. PC shipments from all makers worldwide fell 10 percent last year, to 316 million, according to Gartner, a research firm, as more consumers turned to tablet computers or smartphones to connect to the Internet. Sony’s share of that total slipped to 1.9 percent worldwide in 2013 from 2.1 percent in 2012, Gartner said, making it the ninth-largest maker of PCs worldwide.
  
  With profit margins under pressure in the PC sector, only a handful of the biggest companies, including the market leader, Lenovo, make money.
  
  “Somebody has to exit from the market because there are still too many competitors,” said Mikako Kitagawa, an analyst at Gartner. “This is an extremely difficult market in which to survive. That is not going to change.”
  
  After splitting off its television business into a subsidiary, Sony said, the new unit will focus on expensive sets, including ultrahigh-resolution 4K TVs, while scaling back output of cheaper models.
  
  While Sony is retaining ownership, the new structure could also make it easier to open the TV business to outside investment, analysts said. The changes could also make it easier for the company to cut costs by outsourcing more manufacturing and other operations, while retaining the Sony brand.
  
  Sony has adopted such structures for other business lines, including mobile phones, with mixed results.
  
  In 2001, Sony set up a joint venture with Ericsson of Sweden, but the partnership struggled and Sony bought out Ericsson’s stake in 2012.
  
  Mr. Hirai, the Sony chief, said that while the company had no immediate plans to sell the TV arm, it was keeping its options open.
  
  “There are many possibilities, not just for our TV business,” he said.

 

[Beast]

China is


You're evading the reality.

Instead you are the one. Japan is a declining nation. Bleak future. So sad for Japan.