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Joe Biden as U.S. president would help India get seat on UNSC, says former American diplomat Richard Verma

July 19, 2020

Mr. Verma joined three other prominent Indian-Americans to make a pitch for the Indian-American community to vote for Joe Biden in the U.S. presidential elections

Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Joe Biden, if elected to power in the November elections, will help shape international bodies like the United Nations so that India get a permanent seat on the Security Council, a former top American diplomat has said.

India has been pushing for reforms of the United Nations, including the Security Council, stating that its composition doesn’t reflect the current realities and is not representative enough.

The UNSC has 15 members, including five permanent members — the U.S., the U.K., France, Russia and China. China is the only permanent member of the UNSC which is opposed to India’s inclusion into the powerful grouping. Half of the 10 non-permanent members are elected every year for a two-year term. India, along with Mexico and Ireland, has been recently elected a non-permanent member for a two-year term starting January 1, 2021.

“There’s no question that under his (Biden) leadership, he would help shape international institutions like the UN to give India a (permanent) seat on the Security Council, he would fulfil its (India) status as a major defence partner,” former U.S. Ambassador to India Richard Verma said on Saturday.

“He (Biden) would work together with India to keep our citizens collectively safe. That means standing up against cross-border terrorism and standing with India when its neighbours attempt to change the status quo,” he added.

Mr. Verma, an Indian-American who was U.S. ambassador to India from 2014 to 2017, joined three other prominent Indian-Americans to make a pitch for the small but highly influential community to support and vote for Joe Biden in the U.S. presidential elections.

The 77-year-old former U.S. vice president is set to be formally nominated by the Democratic Party in August. He will challenge 74-year-old incumbent President Donald Trump, a Republican in the November 3 presidential elections.

Mr. Verma, Biden Unity Task Force Economic Policy advisor Sonal Shah, former U.S. surgeon general Vivek Murthy and Centre for American Progress Action Fund CEO Neera Tanden in their address to a virtual event argued that over the past several decades, Mr. Biden has a proven track record of being the best friend of Indians and Indian-Americans, be it as a Senator from Delaware or as a vice president under the Obama administration.

“There’s no question president Biden would build a more inclusive, tolerant just and fair administration that would take US-India relations to new heights,” Mr. Verma said at the event — ‘An Electorate Coming of Age: Indian Americans for Biden Community Town Hall’

He urged the Indian-American community to make Joe Biden’s dream of making India and the U.S. the two closet nations in the world a reality.

“I can confidently say, there would have been no US India Civil Nuclear Deal but for Joe Biden,” Mr. Verma said.

“In 2006, I remember the remarks he made where he said, ‘My dream is that in 2020, the two closest nations in the world will be India and the United States. If that occurs, the world will be safer.’ Think about that for a second. He made those remarks in 2006. And here we are, it’s 2020. Let’s make Joe Biden’s dream a reality. That only becomes a reality if he becomes president,” he said.

In her address, Neera Tanden urged Indian-Americans to take steps every day over the next three-and-a-half months to ensure that Biden becomes the president.

Sonal Shah said she will vote for Biden as she wants a country that is open to people like her, to her friends, to her colleagues and to everyone else.

“We are not just immigrants, we are not just people sitting on the side, we are part of that American fabric and welcome us to help create that fabric because we’ve been lucky enough to be able to do that. But it took people like Joe Biden to allow us and help us participate and give us those chances. We’ve benefited from that. So now I vote because I believe he is the right person, and we can build that country together with him,” she said.

According to Dr Murthy, Joe Biden’s recognition and appreciation for immigrants and for communities like Indian-Americans is forming an incredibly important part of the backbone of the United States of America.

“This is a moment for our country when leadership matters, when values matter. When we go to the voting booth, as we think about how to build support for the candidate that will best reflect our vision and our hopes and our dreams. Let’s lead with our values. Let’s vote for the person who understands us,” he said at the event organised jointly by the Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) for Biden, the AAPI Victory Fund and South Asians for Biden.

Later in a statement, Ajay Jain Bhutoria, who is on National Finance Committee for Biden, said, “Most Indian-Americans would say without hesitation that Biden would be a better president and world leader and better for India on all counts.”

“The choice is clear for voting in November 2020. The choice is even clearer for Indo Americans and South Asians. Biden is the best answer for India and Indian-Americans. The Indian community sees him as one of ‘our’ leaders,” he said.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...an-diplomat-richard-verma/article32130084.ece
 
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I doubt any other country will be able to get a permanent seat at the UNSC. You have to remember the UNSC was created for the victors of WWII (US, USSR, UK, China, France). Indian soldiers fought under the British Raj at the time so I don't really see any basis for their inclusion (or for any other country's inclusion). And besides, I doubt China would let India get a permanent seat since it needs to protect Pakistan.
 
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I doubt any other country will be able to get a permanent seat at the UNSC. You have to remember the UNSC was created for the victors of WWII (US, USSR, UK, China, France). Indian soldiers fought under the British Raj at the time so I don't really see any basis for their inclusion (or for any other country's inclusion). And besides, I doubt China would let India get a permanent seat since it needs to protect Pakistan.

If anything South America and Africa ought to be represented first. India doesnt even have any real reason for deserving a seat other than their high population.
 
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I doubt any other country will be able to get a permanent seat at the UNSC. You have to remember the UNSC was created for the victors of WWII (US, USSR, UK, China, France). Indian soldiers fought under the British Raj at the time so I don't really see any basis for their inclusion (or for any other country's inclusion). And besides, I doubt China would let India get a permanent seat since it needs to protect Pakistan.
The UN was set up to give major powers a forum to talk and to avoid another world war.

As countries become more powerful economically and militarily, if they don’t have a say through a world body that world body becomes irrelevant and cannot do what it was set up to do.

If India ever becomes a major power and that is an IF, and is not given a deciding vote then the UN becomes even more useless than it is now. The Indians will take there interests and apply pressure through other means. A bunch of have been small European nations cannot decide for the rest of the world for ever.
If the UN does not find a way to evolve it will go the way of the League of Nations and we could end up with World War III.

India is defenitely not there yet, neither economy wise nor military power wise and probably won’t be for another generation, but it is better for Pakistan to realize the inevitable and plan accordingly.
 
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Joe Biden as U.S. president would help India get seat on UNSC, says former American diplomat Richard Verma

July 19, 2020

Mr. Verma joined three other prominent Indian-Americans to make a pitch for the Indian-American community to vote for Joe Biden in the U.S. presidential elections

Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Joe Biden, if elected to power in the November elections, will help shape international bodies like the United Nations so that India get a permanent seat on the Security Council, a former top American diplomat has said.

India has been pushing for reforms of the United Nations, including the Security Council, stating that its composition doesn’t reflect the current realities and is not representative enough.

The UNSC has 15 members, including five permanent members — the U.S., the U.K., France, Russia and China. China is the only permanent member of the UNSC which is opposed to India’s inclusion into the powerful grouping. Half of the 10 non-permanent members are elected every year for a two-year term. India, along with Mexico and Ireland, has been recently elected a non-permanent member for a two-year term starting January 1, 2021.

“There’s no question that under his (Biden) leadership, he would help shape international institutions like the UN to give India a (permanent) seat on the Security Council, he would fulfil its (India) status as a major defence partner,” former U.S. Ambassador to India Richard Verma said on Saturday.

“He (Biden) would work together with India to keep our citizens collectively safe. That means standing up against cross-border terrorism and standing with India when its neighbours attempt to change the status quo,” he added.

Mr. Verma, an Indian-American who was U.S. ambassador to India from 2014 to 2017, joined three other prominent Indian-Americans to make a pitch for the small but highly influential community to support and vote for Joe Biden in the U.S. presidential elections.

The 77-year-old former U.S. vice president is set to be formally nominated by the Democratic Party in August. He will challenge 74-year-old incumbent President Donald Trump, a Republican in the November 3 presidential elections.

Mr. Verma, Biden Unity Task Force Economic Policy advisor Sonal Shah, former U.S. surgeon general Vivek Murthy and Centre for American Progress Action Fund CEO Neera Tanden in their address to a virtual event argued that over the past several decades, Mr. Biden has a proven track record of being the best friend of Indians and Indian-Americans, be it as a Senator from Delaware or as a vice president under the Obama administration.

“There’s no question president Biden would build a more inclusive, tolerant just and fair administration that would take US-India relations to new heights,” Mr. Verma said at the event — ‘An Electorate Coming of Age: Indian Americans for Biden Community Town Hall’

He urged the Indian-American community to make Joe Biden’s dream of making India and the U.S. the two closet nations in the world a reality.

“I can confidently say, there would have been no US India Civil Nuclear Deal but for Joe Biden,” Mr. Verma said.

“In 2006, I remember the remarks he made where he said, ‘My dream is that in 2020, the two closest nations in the world will be India and the United States. If that occurs, the world will be safer.’ Think about that for a second. He made those remarks in 2006. And here we are, it’s 2020. Let’s make Joe Biden’s dream a reality. That only becomes a reality if he becomes president,” he said.

In her address, Neera Tanden urged Indian-Americans to take steps every day over the next three-and-a-half months to ensure that Biden becomes the president.

Sonal Shah said she will vote for Biden as she wants a country that is open to people like her, to her friends, to her colleagues and to everyone else.

“We are not just immigrants, we are not just people sitting on the side, we are part of that American fabric and welcome us to help create that fabric because we’ve been lucky enough to be able to do that. But it took people like Joe Biden to allow us and help us participate and give us those chances. We’ve benefited from that. So now I vote because I believe he is the right person, and we can build that country together with him,” she said.

According to Dr Murthy, Joe Biden’s recognition and appreciation for immigrants and for communities like Indian-Americans is forming an incredibly important part of the backbone of the United States of America.

“This is a moment for our country when leadership matters, when values matter. When we go to the voting booth, as we think about how to build support for the candidate that will best reflect our vision and our hopes and our dreams. Let’s lead with our values. Let’s vote for the person who understands us,” he said at the event organised jointly by the Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) for Biden, the AAPI Victory Fund and South Asians for Biden.

Later in a statement, Ajay Jain Bhutoria, who is on National Finance Committee for Biden, said, “Most Indian-Americans would say without hesitation that Biden would be a better president and world leader and better for India on all counts.”

“The choice is clear for voting in November 2020. The choice is even clearer for Indo Americans and South Asians. Biden is the best answer for India and Indian-Americans. The Indian community sees him as one of ‘our’ leaders,” he said.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...an-diplomat-richard-verma/article32130084.ece
only china can help india..noone else..period

make china happy
 
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I doubt any other country will be able to get a permanent seat at the UNSC. You have to remember the UNSC was created for the victors of WWII (US, USSR, UK, China, France). Indian soldiers fought under the British Raj at the time so I don't really see any basis for their inclusion (or for any other country's inclusion). And besides, I doubt China would let India get a permanent seat since it needs to protect Pakistan.

The only way is if some country was forced to step down.
 
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If anything South America and Africa ought to be represented first. India doesnt even have any real reason for deserving a seat other than their high population.
There are 2 billion Muslims. If anything OIC should be given a seat. Every now and then anyone comes and destroy and kill few million of Muslims.
 
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Its just election gimmicks. Reality is that modi and indians have weighed heavily towards trump, those howdy modi events were like campaign jalsas. The democrats see bjp as pro Republicans, if democrats win, india will face issues of human rights violations from US.
 
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Terrific. If true. UNSC doesnt work in current situation.
 
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Give up kashmir and perhaps India will get a seat. It's a simple exchange.
 
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