JK was never Pakistan’s and will never be: India

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

Kashmiris are our brothers and sisters and we will never forget.

Yes.. All you are left with are memories. And that's all you will ever have as well.

 

[timetravel]

Pakistan's mission - Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir, Jihad, Jihad, Jihad (which will never be fulfilled)

India's mission - Development, Development, Development (we are doing pretty good)

in another 100 years, Pakistan will either cease to exist or be a mess while still chanting Kashmir, Kashmir.
While India will be sitting in UN as permanent member and top 2 world economies.

While India will have organisations similar or better then NASA/DARPA, our neighbour will be like SA, a religious mess.

 

[Zibago]

Pakistan's mission - Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir, Jihad, Jihad, Jihad (which will never be fulfilled)

India's mission - Development, Development, Development (we are doing pretty good)

in another 100 years, Pakistan will either cease to exist or be a mess while still chanting Kashmir, Kashmir.
While India will be sitting in UN as permanent member and top 2 world economies.

While India will have organisations similar or better then NASA/DARPA, our neighbour will be like SA, a religious mess.

Dil khush karnay ko ghalib yeh khayal acha hay

 

[Jf Thunder]

this is a sharp reaction? this reaction gives an indication that the Indians need a huge dose of burnol

 

[karakoram]

If indians are very cool regarding kashmir and dont give dam to pakistan regarding kashmir day. then why so much butt hurt shown by indian governament ? it mean they are scared and concerned about our protest

 

[Sunan]

indians seems to be butthurt on Kashmir Issue.India lied to the world in UN to give right of self determination to Kashmiries.Doing local election drama not going to help india.Mass graveyards in Kashmir r the proof that Kashmir is not a part of india.Indian media saying that kashmiri youth university students r opting for Guns now killing Col of indian army...india cannot crush kashmiri Freedom struggle with force.in 2008 Kashmiri people come out to the streets peacefully but they got bullets in response.If they choose guns now no body can held them responsible..

 

[ares]

In Kargil war Pakistan NLI(Northern Light Infantry) was able to sneak inside Kargil and put up a heavy resistance against India despite of being poorly armed against massive Indian Army supported by Air Force. If Pakistan Army would have retaliated with Full potential then India couldnt able to even dream of Kargil on the First Place.

So you had to sneak into Kargil to gain a strategic advantage right?
P.OK itself didn't offer any right?

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Good to see you have already made your mind about losing rest of the Kashmir too.

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what your point ?

 

[Gazi]

So you had to sneak into Kargil to gain a strategic advantage right?
P.OK itself didn't offer any right?

Yes NLI had to Sneak into Indian side of LOC where Kargil was located because they were not allowed over their. as for your second point let me Quote from my previous post

Still our Light infantry division was able to hold against Massive firepower of Indian Army and Air force without any backup says itself that Pakistani Army can perform well even in much harsher conditions and Pakistani region of Kashmir which is higher then Indian region of Kashmir is MORE STRATEGIC then Plain Lands of Indian Kashmir which can be taken over Easily if Pakistan Deploy Large enough fire power over their.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Kashmir issue must be resolved for the sake of this region .... not as Pakistan or Indians want ... but the real Owner of the land ... Kashmiri people .... and India will not give Kashmir through Dialog that is a fact .. people must understand this now ... the only way is a major full scale war .. which is again not in interest of both countries ..the Nuke factor is always there, even if India is about to loose Kashmir , it can easily threat Pakistan with Nukes , and once Nukes are involved , world will intervene and war will be over ... and some cease fire agreement signed , and forces back to their old position .. unless Pakistan had complete cut off all routes of Indian linking Kashmir to other states , and not just this , but Kashmiri peoples has to increase their effort , if they want freedom ... they have to rise up , a force against it .. some chut put attacks will never give freedom to Kashmiri people , sorry to say this but its a fact ..

and even Kashmiri peoples are confused about who them want to join , when Pakistan launch Operation Gibralter , i guess it was Kashmiri who help Indians to identify the Pakistani SSG disguised as Kashmiri .. or maybe i heard wrong ..

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there is no point discussion on kashmir..
even 3rd party survey shows kashmiris hate india and pak..
so indians also hate goi so pakistanis to gop .. so they need new nation..?
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indepedance kashmir is not good for kashmir and then for pak.. india.. china.. world..
why..
how indepndance kashmir will secure porus borders ?
how money wil be genreted.. ?
how independet state govt work.. as saw in flood both side needed army than state govt to control R and E
full kashmir with wakhan corridor .. tlabina can make havoc in kashmir and 3 other nation ?
climate change predict heavy melting of snow in himalyas if happend kashmir flood of 2014 will be just inch of tsunami in waiting .. how kashmir wil put its stand on climate chnage?
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both nation spending heavy due to kashmir issue...
india
cost live of indian both armed force and civilian and money
still most pepople of india dont get direct negtative impact of kashmir
but still we are good and in control

pak..
cost live of both armed force and civilain .. economy.. diplocay .. world view about pak .. all runied due to kashmir
most common people in pak got hit du to kashmir.. as your forgin economical military policy is arounfd kashmir
so prioriites budget is army for kashmir
most imp.. you got society where guns are more common than book....
jihad (with vague terms and lost real meanig in mid way) more common than education

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india still can sustain the cost but will pak is ready to take that cost

 

[ares]

Yes NLI had to Sneak into Indian side of LOC where Kargil was located because they were not allowed over their. as for your second point let me Quote from my previous post

The Fact that Pakistani forces had to sneak into Kargil to gain a strategic advantage speaks for itself.
Another fact is if you have mountains, then we have mountains facing them too i.e you will need similar force levels to capture those peaks and come into plains. or valley.

Unless you decide to come from Jammu-Akhnur axis, which is the only terrain viable for tanks. But here is another fact on the other side Jammu lies, plains of Punjab(Sialkot) on your side, Indian armor can similarly enter into Punjab through J&K and cut off your entire lines of communication to entire Po,K area.

You know what happens when a lines of communication are cut?

 

[duhastmish]

Kashmir is not worth all this hate and animosity. Bomb the god damn place on both side.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

Dil khush karnay ko ghalib yeh khayal acha hay

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[ito]

If indians are very cool regarding kashmir and dont give dam to pakistan regarding kashmir day. then why so much butt hurt shown by indian governament ? it mean they are scared and concerned about our protest

Why should India be concerned about protest in Pakistan. Wasn't your last year totally went waste in protests?

 

[pursuit of happiness]

The Fact that Pakistani forces had to sneak into Kargil to gain a strategic advantage speaks for itself.
Another fact is if you have mountains, then we have mountains facing them too i.e you will need similar force levels to capture those peaks and come into plains. or valley.

Unless you decide to come from Jammu-Akhnur axis, which is the only terrain viable for tanks. But here is another fact on the other side Jammu lies, plains of Punjab(Sialkot) on your side, Indian armor can similarly enter into Punjab through J&K and cut off your entire lines of communication to entire Po,K area.

You know what happens when a lines of communication are cut?

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no use..
same thing exlpained 100 times ...
either there geography is wrong or psychology is wrong .. but hisotry is wrong for sure ..

 

[suresh1773]

I would like to what Pakistanis have done for Kashmiris on the other side of border. Rather then chest thumping & doing nothing. Tourism is almost finished,nothing is left. Sectarian voilence in Gilgit Balistan is increasing & divided the communities. Already Pakistan is battling one crisis after another,petrol,electricity,sectarian voilence,attacks on polio workers. Well Pakistan has literally nothing to offer Kashmiris.
Even if the Kashmir issue is solved,what about the militants,will they vanish in thin air. The day will not be far when the same militants will pick up guns against their masters like TTP,JUndallah,it is just a matter of time. It reminds me of the proverb,what goes around,comes around. People who live with guns die with guns.