Jithay di khoti uthay aan khaloti

[Jf Thunder]

and to think he was our Ambassador
someone needs to beat up PPPP for this

 

[saiyan0321]

Good points indeed, but please keep in mind that in the present day and age, any outreach (and its opposing counterpart too) has many avenues available to it with a wide and nearly universal audience. I would say, out of an abundance of caution, that the viable counter narrative to these individuals be created and promoted more effectively because I can tell you that what they are saying on message is have an effect gradually where it counts.

I won't argue with this. The avenues of outreach have increased dramatically as well as the audience but in the end the only audience that will matter will be the general population of Pakistan which will shape and form the very policies of the state and the state itself. The state is the image of the populace. Its policy and its very actions are an extended form of the very nature of the peope that inhibit it. Reform their ideology and the state's ideology will reform for change comes from within. As you often state let the people have their own govts and laws that they desire. Thus the result of all their outreach and efforts will be determined by their ability to reach the general populace.

yes perhaps you are right in your caution and advice that should be taken. Proactive is better then reactive which we often are.

 

[VCheng]

I won't argue with this. The avenues of outreach have increased dramatically as well as the audience but in the end the only audience that will matter will be the general population of Pakistan which will shape and form the very policies of the state and the state itself. The state is the image of the populace. Its policy and its very actions are an extended form of the very nature of the peope that inhibit it. Reform their ideology and the state's ideology will reform for change comes from within. As you often state let the people have their own govts and laws that they desire. Thus the result of all their outreach and efforts will be determined by their ability to reach the general populace.

yes perhaps you are right in your caution and advice that should be taken. Proactive is better then reactive which we often are.

What you have said has indeed worked for Pakistan thus far, without a doubt. All I can say is: the times - they're a-changing. Simple economics of chronic worsening deprivation will tear apart an ideology in short order. Just look at Venezuela as an example.

I know I am hated for saying such unpopular points of view, but all I can do is warn of things yet to come.

 

[litman]

shakal say he lanat tapak rahi hay in namak haramon kay.

 

[Zibago]

The network is useless. You cannot affect the thinking of the populace if you are detached from them. This is why I called the "liberal" meet in US as useless since most names have little to no outreach to the public.

They bring a bad name to us they are called at every stage where the state is to be slandered we need a more active method to deal with them

Tariq and Haqqani can never return to Pakistan

Well they are in the home of their employers so you know
Eh fir wi chaley gi

and to think he was our Ambassador
someone needs to beat up PPPP for this

Now you know why its important to act against anti state elements we need to back the government in its media purge

Good points indeed, but please keep in mind that in the present day and age, any outreach (and its opposing counterpart too) has many avenues available to it with a wide and nearly universal audience. I would say, out of an abundance of caution, that the viable counter narrative to these individuals be created and promoted more effectively because I can tell you that what they are saying on message is have an effect gradually where it counts.

Countering that ideology isnt the problem it has been defeated at the polls and in popular media its silencing the other that is the aim now we just moved the goal post
Their tears dont bother us if we are being honest here

The very fact that this "network" elicits such strong reactions is one indication that it may not be as useless as might be portrayed.

After the disposal of the old guard their usefulness is limited to propaganda we are just going to have a more active policy of dealing with them and their affiliates

As always, the only effective way to counter such points of view is to develop a better narrative.

Their narrative gets countered all the time they just cry trolls trolls,isi agents,pti agents when its countered

 

[Jaanbaz]

this is Sexism against khotis

 

[Mrc]

Look thats how people who sell their mothers. Look like

 

[El Sidd]

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kutti khoti etc

even in idioms. they found the female Sex to malign