Icarus
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Ok. Lets really discuss this. I strongly disagree with that assessment. There are leaders who can rile up the masses and there are visionaries who are good leaders but can or cannot rile up the masses. Jinnah and Gandhi are in the same boat, IMHO. Both were very good politicians and good leaders. But they lacked vision, a foresight. In India the visionaries were Nehru, Patel and others who crafted the policies which are reaping benefits for the nation even today. Unfortunately for Pakistan, there were no visionaries to nurture the state after Jinnah- the politician- got what he wanted. Hence it is but unfortunate that you people want to believe in Jinnah the visionary for the lack of true visionaries then. All the subsequent leaders that Pakistan had or has are more like 'reactionaries' -reacting to events rather than visionaries - influencing events.
I would disagree, Jinnah had seen how Hindus had adapted to British Rule and the entire blame for the 1857 War had fallen on muslims. They had been sidetracked not only by the British rulers but also by the Hindus and Sikhs who now found favour with the British. Life for a muslim in India was difficult, prospects for muslims in India were limited as is evident by the lack of Civil and military officers, Businessmen and other qualified men that Pakistan faced after it's creation. The division was never meant to break India, merely create a federation in which Pakistan would be a state like Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Hyderabad, etc. It was the Indian leadership who chose not to entertain these plans. Gandhi and Nehru in June 1946 and Nehru alone in 1954.
Again, India too was created at the same time. India withstood against all those vested global interests and yet thrived. Why couldnt Pakistan do the same? Answer- lack of visionaries like I mentioned before.
You might argue that Jinnah passed away quite early after Pakistan was created. So did Gandhi. But we had other visionaries who understood what India was and paved a path for its development. Those are the real visionaries. Not Gandhi. And definitely NOT Jinnah.
For much of it's history and up till the economic reforms, India lagged way behind Pakistan. Up till 2007 Pakistan was the second fastest growing economy in the world and a global economic reformer, I wouldn't count us out that easy. We just had to face a difficult time at this stage in our history, like India faced in the 80s and anyone alive at the time will tell you that India was in pretty dire straits then. Like you overcame your problems, we'll eventually overcome ours.
we are neither talking about terrorists nor religious riots. We are talking about officially sanctioned discrimination here. Like for eg, Ahmedis/Ismailis who are constitutionally barred as calling themselves as Muslims. Explain THAT. Who gives one the right to discriminate as such?
They are legally non-muslims, though I am personally a critic of this policy(since no other country enforces it), I cannot see how it can be warranted as officially sanctioned discrimination, they have the highest representation of any minority in the Army and the Civil Services, they are a thriving community.
Something right in the middle of Islamabad, a trade center and you think security would be lax for protestors to simply enter and protest? Its not that rosy as you want us to believe.
The place has no security, period. That's about it. Just tinted windows.
Jinnah's dream was fulfilled when Pakistan was created - based on separation of the sub-continent's Muslims from the majority Hindus. Again, IMHO, there was no other dream that Jinnah harbored. That speech he gave in the assembly about secularism is simply too good to believe and goes against the very reason for creation of Pakistan.
Do not delude yourselves in to believing that Jinnah had a dream for Pakistan. There was none. There still is none.
Oversimplification my friend, you think he just secured a partition and we were done? Find another thing to do? He was not learning to play the guitar, he was making nation from scratch. Pakistan was based on protection for minorities and equal rights for all, muslims had to suffer and knew what suffering felt like. Jinnah wanted to ensure that in Pakistan, minorities would not be faced with such suffering. The speech was meant to be all it said it wanted to be. Why else would Pakistan offer to accommodate Sikhs, even after the widely publicized massacre of muslim immigrants by the Sikh community? Why would he offer a Sikh the post of the first Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army?
Jinnah himself wanted a Muslim Majority however with Secularism it still not to late to try to get his pakistan, currently now it's zia pakistan. A De-Radicalization of Pakistan is seriously needed. Anyway Jinnah Pakistan already exists to a certain extend it's called bangladesh.
A country based on Bangla nationalism is Jinnah's Pakistan? You need some research....