Jimmy Carter Urges Obama To Divide The Land Of Israel Before January 20th

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Jimmy Carter Urges Obama To Divide The Land Of Israel Before January 20th
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BY MICHAEL SNYDER/ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BLOG NOVEMBER 30, 2016
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In his New York Times editorial, one of the steps that Carter says that Obama should take is to give formal U.S. diplomatic recognition to a Palestinian state...

I am convinced that the United States can still shape the future of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict before a change in presidents, but time is very short. The simple but vital step this administration must take before its term expires on Jan. 20 is to grant American diplomatic recognition to the state of Palestine, as 137 countries have already done, and help it achieve full United Nations membership.

Of course such a move would largely just be window dressing. The new Trump administration could very quickly revoke diplomatic recognition, and so if Barack Obama really wanted to "leave a legacy" in the Middle East he would have to do something that Donald Trump would not be able to undo.
Later on in his editorial, Carter suggested just such a thing. He urged Obama to support a UN Security Council resolution that would set forth firm parameters for resolving the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians...

The Security Council should pass a resolution laying out the parameters for resolving the conflict. It should reaffirm the illegality of all Israeli settlements beyond the 1967 borders, while leaving open the possibility that the parties could negotiate modifications. Security guarantees for both Israel and Palestine are imperative, and the resolution must acknowledge the right of both the states of Israel and Palestine to live in peace and security. Further measures should include the demilitarization of the Palestinian state, and a possible peacekeeping force under the auspices of the United Nations.

In a previous article, I discussed what the three main pillars of such a resolution would probably look like...
1. It would give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state for the very first time.
2. It would grant East Jerusalem to the Palestinians as the capital of their new state.
3. It would establish the 1967 ceasefire lines as the basis for final negotiations for borders between the two states.

Such a UN Security Council resolution would be considered legally binding on the Israelis and the Palestinians. And the Trump administration would not be able to undo such a resolution because it would take another vote of the UN Security Council to revoke the resolution once it had been passed and that would not happen.
Right now the rest of the UN Security Council is ready to support this kind of resolution.

The only thing that has been standing in the way has been the U.S. Security Council veto power, and there have already been rumblings that Obama may not exercise that veto power if a "parameters resolution" is put up for a vote before he leaves office.

And if Obama was going to make such a move, a really good way to drum up some public support for it would be to have a highly respected former president publish an editorial supporting the move in a highly visible newspaper such as the New York Times.

Over in Israel, the government has been ignoring Carter's anti-Israel rants for years, and they have also responded to this latest editorial by Carter with silence...

As Carter's criticism of Israel over the years has become increasingly scathing and one-sided, Jerusalem's policy has been to largely ignore him. In line with this approach, neither the Prime Minister's Office nor the Foreign Ministry had any response on Tuesday to his op-ed.
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But without a doubt the Israelis are very concerned about what may happen next. They know the kind of damage that Barack Obama could do before we get to January 20th, and they are desperately hoping that Obama does not decide to do something exceedingly foolish. The following comes from the Jerusalem Post...

A number of European governments, as well as various think tanks, are talking with Obama administration officials, urging them to take some kind of action on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the waning days of the current presidency.

Among the suggestions are a new UN resolution laying down parameters for a peace deal; US support for the recognition of "Palestine" in the UN; or - at the very least - backing or abstaining on an anti-settlement resolution in the Security Council.

Israeli officials consistently maintain that they do not know what - if anything - Obama has planned. However, the fact that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continuously says - as he did on Sunday - that he expects Obama not to divert from traditional US policy on the matter, is an indication that there remains concern over the matter in Jerusalem.

From a Bible prophecy perspective, the division of the land of Israel is the number one event that we are watching for right now, and this is one of the reasons why I have labeled the period of time leading up to January 20th as "the danger zone".

Even though the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal have both been running stories about a potential UN Security Council resolution that would divide the land of Israel, and even though experienced politicians such as Jimmy Carter and John Bolton are making lots of noise about it, most people don't seem to understand how immensely important this really is in the greater scheme of things.

But if Barack Obama does decide to make a move to divide the land of Israel at the United Nations at some point during the next several weeks, the consequences for this nation will be more severe than most people would dare to imagine.

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[Desertfalcon]

Your thread title does not correspond to what former President Carter actually said. Indeed, your thread title is rather ridiculous as no American president can "divide the land of Israel", in any way.

 

[T-72]

https://defence.pk/threads/us-ex-pr...stine-before-trump-takes-office.463862/unread

 

[Isotope]

Your thread title does not correspond to what former President Carter actually said. Indeed, your thread title is rather ridiculous as no American president can "divide the land of Israel", in any way.

Agree. USA dividing Israel? Ain't happening.

 

[PeaceGen]

Jimmy Carter Urges Obama To Divide The Land Of Israel Before January 20th
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BY MICHAEL SNYDER/ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BLOG NOVEMBER 30, 2016
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In his New York Times editorial, one of the steps that Carter says that Obama should take is to give formal U.S. diplomatic recognition to a Palestinian state...

I am convinced that the United States can still shape the future of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict before a change in presidents, but time is very short. The simple but vital step this administration must take before its term expires on Jan. 20 is to grant American diplomatic recognition to the state of Palestine, as 137 countries have already done, and help it achieve full United Nations membership.

Of course such a move would largely just be window dressing. The new Trump administration could very quickly revoke diplomatic recognition, and so if Barack Obama really wanted to "leave a legacy" in the Middle East he would have to do something that Donald Trump would not be able to undo.
Later on in his editorial, Carter suggested just such a thing. He urged Obama to support a UN Security Council resolution that would set forth firm parameters for resolving the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians...

The Security Council should pass a resolution laying out the parameters for resolving the conflict. It should reaffirm the illegality of all Israeli settlements beyond the 1967 borders, while leaving open the possibility that the parties could negotiate modifications. Security guarantees for both Israel and Palestine are imperative, and the resolution must acknowledge the right of both the states of Israel and Palestine to live in peace and security. Further measures should include the demilitarization of the Palestinian state, and a possible peacekeeping force under the auspices of the United Nations.

In a previous article, I discussed what the three main pillars of such a resolution would probably look like...
1. It would give formal UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state for the very first time.
2. It would grant East Jerusalem to the Palestinians as the capital of their new state.
3. It would establish the 1967 ceasefire lines as the basis for final negotiations for borders between the two states.

Such a UN Security Council resolution would be considered legally binding on the Israelis and the Palestinians. And the Trump administration would not be able to undo such a resolution because it would take another vote of the UN Security Council to revoke the resolution once it had been passed and that would not happen.
Right now the rest of the UN Security Council is ready to support this kind of resolution.

The only thing that has been standing in the way has been the U.S. Security Council veto power, and there have already been rumblings that Obama may not exercise that veto power if a "parameters resolution" is put up for a vote before he leaves office.

And if Obama was going to make such a move, a really good way to drum up some public support for it would be to have a highly respected former president publish an editorial supporting the move in a highly visible newspaper such as the New York Times.

Over in Israel, the government has been ignoring Carter's anti-Israel rants for years, and they have also responded to this latest editorial by Carter with silence...

As Carter's criticism of Israel over the years has become increasingly scathing and one-sided, Jerusalem's policy has been to largely ignore him. In line with this approach, neither the Prime Minister's Office nor the Foreign Ministry had any response on Tuesday to his op-ed.
image: http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/images/ads/TFP_freedvd.jpg



But without a doubt the Israelis are very concerned about what may happen next. They know the kind of damage that Barack Obama could do before we get to January 20th, and they are desperately hoping that Obama does not decide to do something exceedingly foolish. The following comes from the Jerusalem Post...

A number of European governments, as well as various think tanks, are talking with Obama administration officials, urging them to take some kind of action on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the waning days of the current presidency.

Among the suggestions are a new UN resolution laying down parameters for a peace deal; US support for the recognition of "Palestine" in the UN; or - at the very least - backing or abstaining on an anti-settlement resolution in the Security Council.

Israeli officials consistently maintain that they do not know what - if anything - Obama has planned. However, the fact that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continuously says - as he did on Sunday - that he expects Obama not to divert from traditional US policy on the matter, is an indication that there remains concern over the matter in Jerusalem.

From a Bible prophecy perspective, the division of the land of Israel is the number one event that we are watching for right now, and this is one of the reasons why I have labeled the period of time leading up to January 20th as "the danger zone".

Even though the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal have both been running stories about a potential UN Security Council resolution that would divide the land of Israel, and even though experienced politicians such as Jimmy Carter and John Bolton are making lots of noise about it, most people don't seem to understand how immensely important this really is in the greater scheme of things.

But if Barack Obama does decide to make a move to divide the land of Israel at the United Nations at some point during the next several weeks, the consequences for this nation will be more severe than most people would dare to imagine.

Read more at http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?ef=0&em=You're Now Subscribed!#CMwOF0bhQ0jr6lTt.99

it would be stupid and arrogant of me to get involved in that US-Republican discussion.
i'm gonna trust the US-Republican political party, to be chocka-block (completely) full of smart, hard yet kind, people (male and female (m/f)), at the moment.

 

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Jimmy Carter Urges Obama To Divide The Land Of Israel Before January 20th
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   Randy - Saved by GraceWell-Known Member
   In an absolutely stunning editorial for the New York Times, former president Jimmy Carter has publicly called for Barack Obama to divide the land of Israel at the United Nations before Inauguration Day.
   
   While he was president, Carter negotiated peace between Israel and Egypt, and ever since that time he has been a very strong advocate for a Palestinian state.
   
   Carter is completely convinced that a "two-state solution" will bring lasting peace to the Middle East, but now that Donald Trump has been elected Carter knows that his dream of seeing a Palestinian state while he is still alive is rapidly slipping away.
   
   In a desperate attempt to salvage the situation, Carter is urging Barack Obama to take bold action while he still has the power to do so.

 

[Meengla]

Well, Palestinians and Israelis have, for many years, tried to outbreed each other to not lose out on the demographic front and even with the now lessening birthrates that area is full of people--too many people--in a world where environmental disasters are happening more and more and on larger and larger scales.

Carter's advice and his reasoning is sound and his article is gracing the front page of the NYTimes website for days now. But it will still fall on deaf ears because Israelis are trying to duplicate the annihilation of American-Indians done by the Europeans. But that can't be done because, unlike American-Indians--the Palestinian population is huge and also almost equal to the Jewish population.

 

[Solomon2]

...Carter's advice and his reasoning is sound -

Far from it:

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Jimmy Carter is at it again
DECEMBER 7, 2016, 3:24 PM
Neal Sher

Last week, former President Carter published an op-ed in The New York Times urging President Obama to recognize a Palestinian state, blaming Israel, and Israel alone, for the stalemate in talks. With all the bloodshed and terror in the Middle East, it seems that the biggest threat is posed by the construction, or proposed construction, of homes and apartments.

Carter’s proposal has been heavily criticized by experienced experts, including Aaron David Miller, who spent decades working on Middle east issues for both Democratic and Republican administrations.

In 2014, Carter addressed a fundraising dinner for the Islamic Society of North America, which federal prosecutors claimed was a fundraising front for Hamas. Alan Dershowitz has blasted Carter as being an all out supporter of Hamas, even suggesting that he was flirting with violating US laws, which outlaw providing material support to terror groups.

Ten years ago, after Carter published his book accusing Israel of being an apartheid state, I wrote an article detailing how, while I served as the head of the Justice Department’s Nazi prosecution office, former President Carter went to bat for an SS guard who had been deported from the US.

Carter is at it again, and his support for a Nazi criminal is worth remembering.

Indeed, since my article was first published, Carter has continued along that same path. For example, his center has received over $1 million from the Bin Laden family and has been supported by that bastion of humanity and civil liberties, Saudi Arabia.

* * *

It was the spring of 1987 and the Office of Special Investigations, the Justice Department’s Nazi prosecution unit, which I headed at the time, was in the midst of one of our most productive and historic periods.

On April 27, as a result of an in-depth OSI investigation and despite resistance at the State Department, Austrian President and former UN Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, who had served as an officer in the Nazi army, was barred from setting foot ever again on US soil.

One week earlier, after eight years of bruising litigation, we deported to the Soviet Union one Karl Linnas, who had been chief of a Nazi concentration camp in Estonia. To do so, we had to outmaneuver concerted attempts to block the deportation by Patrick Buchanan, the Reagan White House’s communications director, and my boss, US attorney general, Ed Meese.

A month later, OSI announced the loss of citizenship and removal from the United States of a former Chicago resident. Martin Bartesch admitted to our office and the court that he had voluntarily joined the Waffen SS and had served in the notorious SS Death’s Head Division at the Mauthausen concentration camp where, at the hands of Bartesch and his cohorts, many thousands of prisoners were gassed, shot, starved and worked to death. He also confessed to having concealed his service at the infamous camp from US immigration officials.

In Bartesch’s case, OSI researchers uncovered iron-clad documentary evidence of his direct, hands-on role in the Nazi genocide. Among the SS documents captured by American forces when they liberated Mauthausen was what we described as the Unnatural Death Book, a register of prisoners killed, along with the identity of the SS guard responsible for the murder.

So powerful was this evidence that, in postwar trials conducted by the US military, the book served as the basis for execution or long prison sentences for many identified SS guards.

An entry on October 20, 1943, registers the shooting death of Max Oschorn, a French Jewish prisoner. His murderer was also recorded: SS man Martin Bartesch. It was a most chilling document.

Bartesch’s family and “supporters,” seeking special relief, launched a campaign to discredit OSI while trying to garner political support. Indeed, OSI received numerous inquiries from members of Congress who had been approached.

After we explained the facts of the case, however, the matter inevitably was dropped; no one urged that Bartesch or his family be accorded any special treatment.

Well, there was one exception — Jimmy Carter.

In September 1987, after all of the gruesome details of the case had been made public and widely reported in the media, I received a letter sent by Bartesch’s daughter to the former president. Citing groups that had been exposed for their anti-Semitism, it was an all-out assault against OSI as unfair, “un-American” and interested only in “vengeance” against innocent family members.

It’s axiomatic that the families of every person prosecuted under the criminal or immigration laws are affected and subjected to hardship. It was obvious, I thought to myself, that no reasonable person could genuinely believe that the Bartesch case was worthy of special dispensation.

On the contrary, it would be a perversion of justice to accede to the family’s demands and grant Bartesch relief to which no one else would be entitled. Not even the staunchest and most sincere devotee to humanitarian causes could legitimately claim that an SS murderer who deceived authorities to obtain a visa and citizenship was somehow deserving of exceptional treatment.

That’s why I was so taken aback by the personal, handwritten note Jimmy Carter sent to me seeking “special consideration” for this Nazi SS murderer. There on the upper-right corner of Bartesch’s daughter’s letter was a note to me in the former president’s handwriting, and with his signature, urging that “in cases such as this, special consideration can be given to the families for humanitarian reasons.”

Unlike members of Congress who inquired about the facts, Carter blindly accepted at face value the daughter’s self-serving (and disingenuous) assertions.

As disturbing as I found Carter’s plea, and although his attempted intervention has always gnawed at me, I chalked it up at the time to a certain naiveté on the part of the former president. But now, in light of Carter’s most recent writings and comments, I am left to wonder whether it was I who was naive simply to dismiss his knee-jerk appeal as the instinctive reaction of a well-meaning, but misguided, humanitarian.

His latest book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” and his subsequent defense of it, leaves no doubt that Carter has a problem with Israel and its American Jewish supporters. His blame-Israel approach through the distortion of easily verifiable facts; his whining about the influence of the pro-Israel lobby; and even the whiff of plagiarism have been exposed and are now spread upon the public record for all to see.

Kenneth Stein, who resigned his 23-year association with the Carter Center at Emory University, described it this way: Carter’s book “is not based on unvarnished analyses; it is replete with factual errors, copied materials not cited, superficialities, glaring omissions, and simply invented segments.”

Some believe that there’s a venal element at work. To be sure, Carter and his publisher and editor knew that, if nothing else, the intentionally provocative, misleading and insulting title would be good for sales.

Moreover, Carter and his center appear to care little about how they fill their coffers. After all, among the most generous contributors to the Carter Center — at least a million dollars each, according to the center’s published accountings — are Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz, best known for having offered $10 million to New York City after the September 11 attacks, an offer that was rejected by then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani after the prince implied that the attacks may have been justified because of US support for Israel; the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; the Saudi Fund for Development; and, most interestingly, the Bin Laden Group.

Make no mistake, these are not simply benevolent donors looking for a good cause; they expect something in return. And Carter gave them exactly what they paid for: an unequivocal stamp of approval from a former, if failed, US president for their decades of anti-Israel, anti-Semitic ramblings. It’s a diplomatic and public-relations dividend that likely will far exceed their investment.

The exposure of Carter’s views on Israel and the Jewish lobby has shed a clearer light on his attempt to influence me in the Bartesch case. We know from his own confession that he has had lust in his heart. Unfortunately, he has given us ample reason to wonder what else is lurking there.

—

Neal Sher, a New York attorney, previously served as Director of the Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations and is a former Executive Director of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.