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But isn’t it just an ASh CM ? Ohh, i get it, well... Terrain is a mere word these days. Lock is the main playand for ground attack ???
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But isn’t it just an ASh CM ? Ohh, i get it, well... Terrain is a mere word these days. Lock is the main playand for ground attack ???
The reason why H-2/4 SOW can't be used by JF-17. Not Enough ground clearance for JF-17 to carry it on its center line HP. @hassan1 shared a very rare pic of H-2/4 today
This is definitely the first time I've seen a picture of Mirage with the so called H2/H4
I don't think after making two variants of REK, RA'AD-I and II cruise missiles and H-2 and H-4 in house production it will be difficult for AWC to design new powered or glide SOW for JF-17.
It seems the main issue of RA'ÁD missiles are related to its air frame which in my opinion are
- Related to wide horizontal stabilisers at its rear section near exhaust
- Pop-out air intake at the bottom
So to make the RA'AD missile compatible with JF-17 redesign of these sections of air frame should do the job and in this case it is not like that we have to invent such solutions which were never think or used before, we have examples of
- X-type cross stabilisers against Horizontal stabiliser and
- Side Air intakes to turbojet engine
Examples of X-type cross stabilisers
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- Examples of Side Air intake
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other than this we should keep in mind that there is option of GB-6A cruise missile which is a version of GB-6 glide dispenser from China exist which if required can be used as stopgap solution ....
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- Would it be available in strategic role ....?? In my opinion it would not be available in this roleThe Turks developed their own SOW can’t we just have them modify it to integrate into our jets with sources codes and stuff.
All new integrations would require OEM express permission before integration. Itt would be denied or if approved would be done by them costing money to us.- Would it be available in strategic role ....?? In my opinion it would not be available in this role
- Why buy a new system when our own homegrown system works just fine, it just need little bit of adaption as per the requirements for the integration to the platform other than Mirage jets ....
As far as Turkish SOM missile is concern, it could be a useful addition to our F-16 fleet which lack any long range strike weapon package as no such weapon is released for our F-16 fleet by USA, therefore there is a possibility that USA would veto SOM integration with PAF F-16 fleet, otherwise it would be a welcome addition
Do we also need approval in case of mirages???All new integrations would require OEM express permission before integration. Itt would be denied or if approved would be done by them costing money to us.
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Yes that is correct in terms of H4; however you assume that targets are known when using Al-tariq or Umbani. To be able to switch targets once in flight or deviation is where H4 still stands out not to mention multi-mode capabilities.
I dont think so..it basically only a skeleton with all avionics being license built by pakistanDo we also need approval in case of mirages???
H4 can do what you described with gbu-15, it is also able to use multiple gps and still have guidance as a backup. In a high ew environment, gps signals can be jammed; guidance is literally ECM proof with multiple protocols/error recovery.Very true. Providing video evidence of shoving a bomb up your enemy's behind is another.
However, one would imagine that in today's day and age one would not need to keep following the released ordinance to continue providing input. It defeats the purpose of an SOW, at least somewhat. Needing a different aircraft altogether to provide guidance is also something I did not understand. Are the limitations born out of a limited satellite communications capability or is it the weapon itself?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the GBU-15, for example, the pilot releases the bomb, turns the aircraft around towards safety, puts it in autopilot and then guides the weapon to the target all by himself. I understand that the difference in respective ranges does skew the comparison by a bit, I just wanted to give an example of how it should be.
Absolutely NO. You own it and you do what you please.Do we also need approval in case of mirages???
My understanding is that one would need speed & altitude to max H-4's range. This way the launching aircraft can stay within own airspace. But guidance can be provided at a radar-evading low altitude. So, using two aircraft is the safer option.Very true. Providing video evidence of shoving a bomb up your enemy's behind is another.
However, one would imagine that in today's day and age one would not need to keep following the released ordinance to continue providing input. It defeats the purpose of an SOW, at least somewhat. Needing a different aircraft altogether to provide guidance is also something I did not understand. Are the limitations born out of a limited satellite communications capability or is it the weapon itself?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the GBU-15, for example, the pilot releases the bomb, turns the aircraft around towards safety, puts it in autopilot and then guides the weapon to the target all by himself. I understand that the difference in respective ranges does skew the comparison by a bit, I just wanted to give an example of how it should be.
All new integrations would require OEM express permission before integration. Itt would be denied or if approved would be done by them costing money to us.
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