JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[air marshal]

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17-Thunder/1809

 

[darksider]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143422733390245888

why they are pushing it like this?

 

[JohnWick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143422733390245888

why they are pushing it like this?

They are just parking it manually cuz the engine is off .....the canopy is open therefore no pilot in it..... It is a usual practice.... Nothing so special.....Stop quoting idiots.....It can make you also one like them....

 

[Thunder029]

They are just parking it manually cuz the engine is off .....the canopy is open therefore no pilot in it..... It is a usual practice.... Nothing so special.....Stop quoting idiots.....It can make you also one like them....

I am very interested)) all Indians are such idiots?

To be honest) for me, JF-17 is the most beautiful and most carismatic fighter on the planet
1-Reliable and cheap to maintain
2-And ... the most important thing is run in battle))))

 

[nomi007]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143422733390245888

why they are pushing it like this?

its manual parking

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Anatolian Eagle 2019:

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Paris Airshow 19:

 

[Shane]

More Heads up on JF17 block III. WS-19 is making some more waves and possibly Block II is already going through PL-15 testing.

The Block III of 枭龙 fighter inlet expansion will suspect the replacement of turbofan 19 engine

Sina military
June 30, 14:24

The Pakistan Air Force has recently confirmed that the block III of fighters will increase the proportion of composite materials used to reduce aircraft air weight, increase loads and voyages, and improve aircraft combat capability.

From now on, CATIC and the Pakistan Air Force have exceeded the external forecast for the definition of the block III of fighters. The block III of Xiaolong have been comprehensively upgraded and improved in many aspects such as aerodynamic layout, material technology, avionics and airborne weapons, and the overall performance has taken a big step forward.

The block III of fighters have replaced advanced equipment such as active phased array, integrated electronic warfare system, distributed optical aperture, etc., and it is possible to increase the wingspan. If there is no breakthrough in materials, it will cause the aircraft structure. The weight is rising rapidly. It is in this case that the Pakistan Air Force will require the block III of fighters to increase the proportion of composite materials used, reduce the weight of the aircraft structure, and make room for the upgrade of airborne avionics systems.

In addition to the use of advanced materials, another highlight of the block III of Xiaolong is to increase the intake port, thus laying a solid foundation for the replacement of the block III fighters with larger thrust engines. The air intake is the tip and difficulty of the aerodynamic layout of the fighter. The Snapdragon fighter adopts the BUMP inlet, which is now only available to both China and the United States. For modern turbofan engines, under the same technical conditions, the greater the thrust, the more air is required, and the larger the air inlet port volume is required. Therefore, after the Pakistan Air Force announced that the block III of the dragon had increased the air intake port, the outside world immediately realized that it might have to replace the engine with a larger thrust.

Three batches of Xiaolong may change the WS-19 engine
Therefore, the block III of fighter are likely to replace the domestic WS-19 turbofan engine in the future. Its performance is comparable to that of the US F414 engine. The engine afterburning thrust can reach 10 tons plus, which is 1.5 more than the RD-93 engine.

After the WS-19 engine is replaced, the maximum takeoff weight can be increased to about 16 tons, and the external pylons is close to 5 Ton. The operational radius and range of the aircraft have been greatly improved. There is also an increase in the thrust-to-weight ratio of aircraft air combat capability. Compared with the RD-33, the thrust of the military thrust and the normal air combat envelope range have been effectively improved, so that the three-armed air combat weight ratio can be improved, and the aircraft flight and Maneuverability, including aircraft climb, takeoff and landing, acceleration, etc., can be effectively enhanced.

A series of improved dragons and two seats will be applied to the three batches of fighters

In order to cooperate with the advanced engine, the block III of Xiaolong fighters will also be upgraded in terms of aerodynamic layout and flight control system. First, its wingspan increased from 9 meters to 9.5 meters. The increase in wingspan means that the aspect ratio is increased, the induced drag is reduced, and the performance is optimized within the normal air combat envelope. Aircraft voyage and battery life increased. It is also possible to use the two-seater large swept tail of the Snapdragon to improve the handling efficiency of the aircraft and enhance the agility of the aircraft. The flight control system is upgraded from the current vertical axis electric communication plus the horizontal mechanical control system to the three-axis four-degree four-degree fly-by-wire control system, and may form a flight control/fire control integrated system to enhance the aircraft combat capability.

The three batches of avionics and airborne weapons have been familiar to the outside world. The airborne radar will be equipped with a source phased array radar to improve aircraft detection and multi-target attack capabilities. The cockpit may be replaced with an integrated display, diffractive flat display, the pilot is equipped with a helmet display / aiming system, the airborne electronic interference system is integrated into the body, and the first and second batches of the 枭龙 use an external electronic interference pod. In terms of airborne weapons, the domestic PL-15 medium-range air-to-air missiles and PL-10 infrared imaging-guided combat air-to-air missiles were modified, so that the three fighters of the dragons could fight the Indian Air Force gust F3 fighter. Air-ground weapons may use CM-400AKG anti-ship/anti-radiation missiles, C-802AKG anti-ship missiles, stealth defense attack missiles, precision guided bombs, etc.

May be a picture of the dragon mounted with the PL-15 for testing.

Of course, after the Block III of Xiaolong have been improved, the price has also increased. The unit price of the first and second batches of Xiaolong is about 25 million US dollars, and the three batches of Xiaolong may be about 40 million US dollars. However, this unit price is still much cheaper than the foreign fighters of the same type. The performance of the Swedish Eagle-E fighter is similar to that of the three fighters of the Snapdragon, but the unit price is more than 80 million US dollars, which is twice the size of the three fighters. In terms of the three batches of fighters, they should have achieved good results in the international market with their excellent performance and good cost-effectiveness. (Author's signature: Xiaofei observation)

 

[Jinn Baba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143117168688685057

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So some problems were the reason for the delay? And a new engine

 

[khanasifm]

This is not official but from some sim as far as I can think [emoji848]

 

[Sine Nomine]

Some learned member here stated that RD93 or MS is going to power BLK3.Pakistan is going for RD MRO and has trained quite a good amount of man power for smooth operations.
Going for WS-xyz makes no sense at all.

 

[air marshal]

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17-Thunder/1921

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17-Thunder/1922

 

[MastanKhan]

More Heads up on JF17 block III. WS-19 is making some more waves and possibly Block II is already going through PL-15 testing.

The Block III of 枭龙 fighter inlet expansion will suspect the replacement of turbofan 19 engine

Sina military
June 30, 14:24

The Pakistan Air Force has recently confirmed that the block III of fighters will increase the proportion of composite materials used to reduce aircraft air weight, increase loads and voyages, and improve aircraft combat capability.

From now on, CATIC and the Pakistan Air Force have exceeded the external forecast for the definition of the block III of fighters. The block III of Xiaolong have been comprehensively upgraded and improved in many aspects such as aerodynamic layout, material technology, avionics and airborne weapons, and the overall performance has taken a big step forward.

The block III of fighters have replaced advanced equipment such as active phased array, integrated electronic warfare system, distributed optical aperture, etc., and it is possible to increase the wingspan. If there is no breakthrough in materials, it will cause the aircraft structure. The weight is rising rapidly. It is in this case that the Pakistan Air Force will require the block III of fighters to increase the proportion of composite materials used, reduce the weight of the aircraft structure, and make room for the upgrade of airborne avionics systems.

In addition to the use of advanced materials, another highlight of the block III of Xiaolong is to increase the intake port, thus laying a solid foundation for the replacement of the block III fighters with larger thrust engines. The air intake is the tip and difficulty of the aerodynamic layout of the fighter. The Snapdragon fighter adopts the BUMP inlet, which is now only available to both China and the United States. For modern turbofan engines, under the same technical conditions, the greater the thrust, the more air is required, and the larger the air inlet port volume is required. Therefore, after the Pakistan Air Force announced that the block III of the dragon had increased the air intake port, the outside world immediately realized that it might have to replace the engine with a larger thrust.

Three batches of Xiaolong may change the WS-19 engine
Therefore, the block III of fighter are likely to replace the domestic WS-19 turbofan engine in the future. Its performance is comparable to that of the US F414 engine. The engine afterburning thrust can reach 10 tons plus, which is 1.5 more than the RD-93 engine.

After the WS-19 engine is replaced, the maximum takeoff weight can be increased to about 16 tons, and the external pylons is close to 5 Ton. The operational radius and range of the aircraft have been greatly improved. There is also an increase in the thrust-to-weight ratio of aircraft air combat capability. Compared with the RD-33, the thrust of the military thrust and the normal air combat envelope range have been effectively improved, so that the three-armed air combat weight ratio can be improved, and the aircraft flight and Maneuverability, including aircraft climb, takeoff and landing, acceleration, etc., can be effectively enhanced.

A series of improved dragons and two seats will be applied to the three batches of fighters

In order to cooperate with the advanced engine, the block III of Xiaolong fighters will also be upgraded in terms of aerodynamic layout and flight control system. First, its wingspan increased from 9 meters to 9.5 meters. The increase in wingspan means that the aspect ratio is increased, the induced drag is reduced, and the performance is optimized within the normal air combat envelope. Aircraft voyage and battery life increased. It is also possible to use the two-seater large swept tail of the Snapdragon to improve the handling efficiency of the aircraft and enhance the agility of the aircraft. The flight control system is upgraded from the current vertical axis electric communication plus the horizontal mechanical control system to the three-axis four-degree four-degree fly-by-wire control system, and may form a flight control/fire control integrated system to enhance the aircraft combat capability.

The three batches of avionics and airborne weapons have been familiar to the outside world. The airborne radar will be equipped with a source phased array radar to improve aircraft detection and multi-target attack capabilities. The cockpit may be replaced with an integrated display, diffractive flat display, the pilot is equipped with a helmet display / aiming system, the airborne electronic interference system is integrated into the body, and the first and second batches of the 枭龙 use an external electronic interference pod. In terms of airborne weapons, the domestic PL-15 medium-range air-to-air missiles and PL-10 infrared imaging-guided combat air-to-air missiles were modified, so that the three fighters of the dragons could fight the Indian Air Force gust F3 fighter. Air-ground weapons may use CM-400AKG anti-ship/anti-radiation missiles, C-802AKG anti-ship missiles, stealth defense attack missiles, precision guided bombs, etc.

May be a picture of the dragon mounted with the PL-15 for testing.

Of course, after the Block III of Xiaolong have been improved, the price has also increased. The unit price of the first and second batches of Xiaolong is about 25 million US dollars, and the three batches of Xiaolong may be about 40 million US dollars. However, this unit price is still much cheaper than the foreign fighters of the same type. The performance of the Swedish Eagle-E fighter is similar to that of the three fighters of the Snapdragon, but the unit price is more than 80 million US dollars, which is twice the size of the three fighters. In terms of the three batches of fighters, they should have achieved good results in the international market with their excellent performance and good cost-effectiveness. (Author's signature: Xiaofei observation)

Hi,

And add to that 2 to 3 times the price of the weapons and the cost of training and integration for something like a Gripen NG---it almost comes close to $150 million +++ per aircraft---.

 

[ziaulislam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1143422733390245888

why they are pushing it like this?

You can easily find videos of gripen & rafale being pushed

 

[devil302]

You can easily find videos of gripen & rafale being pushed

well its just being pushed some do get a chance for truck ride too