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Thats a PS :(
Anyway,, thanks! I have not seen any but three serial aircraft carrying SD-10 yet. Not that others wont be capable as it do not makes sense but they have not been photographed carrying SD-10 (talking about serial production planes that are on active duties with there squadron). The Prototypes are in addition to these three.
 
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Thats a PS :(
Anyway,, thanks! I have not seen any but three serial aircraft carrying SD-10 yet. Not that others wont be capable as it do not makes sense but they have not been photographed carrying SD-10 (talking about serial production planes that are on active duties with there squadron). The Prototypes are in addition to these three.
Sir Ji, just watch the JF-17 promotion video, you will witness several armed with SD-10s, but then you might argue that they are only training rounds. :-)

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Sir Ji, just watch the JF-17 promotion video, you will witness several armed with SD-10s, but then you might argue that they are only training rounds. :-)

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mmmm yeaahhhh i might have said that...
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anyway,, as i said, seeing even three (i saw two on them in that video if i remember correctly) with operational missiles in good enough for me. As i said, i am not of the view that only these three are capable of carrying SD10 as that is absurd, also i or anyone should not need picture of each and every aircraft to believe that they can carry some particular weapon. The official confirmation and these few pictures are good enough. We all know that some JF-17 planes/squadrons have mashallah achieved active combat status with PAF.

I was just asking to have a look at more of these planes i am simply in love with :P and now that you reminded me about it, i am watching that video once again :P

THANKS ANYWAY BROTHER!! :tup:
 
Chief designer reveals data on China's new Luoyang PL-10 AAM
Richard D Fisher Jr, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 September 2015
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A Luoyang Electro Optic Research Institute (LEOC) PL-10 5th generation air-to-air missile on a Shenyang J-11. Source: Chinese internet


The Luoyang Electro-Optical Research Institute (LEOC) has largely competed development of its fifth-generation PL-10 short-range air-to-air missile (AAM), according to comments by the missile's designer on a Chinese TV show broadcast in late August.

The PL-10 AAM was first seen on Chinese websites in 2013 being carried on a retractable/covered pylon on the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) J-20 fifth-generation fighter. More recently it has been seen on the wingtip pylon of the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation J-11 fighter.

The TV report featured an interview with the PL-10's chief designer, Liang Xiaogeng. According to Mark Stokes of the Project 2049 research institute, Liang also served as the deputy chief designer of LEOC's PL-9C infrared/helmet-sighted AAM and as chief designer of the PL-12 self-guided medium-range AAM.

The report was unusual in that it provided significant historic and performance data about a new weapon before its unveiling at a major arms show or exhibition. For example, the report noted that the PL-10 weighs 89 kg, has a length of 3 m, and a range of 20 km. It has been in development for seven years, a prototype was completed in 2013, and since then has been test-fired 30 times.

The report also noted that the PL-10 has "world class" capabilities that include a "multi-element imaging infrared seeker with anti-jamming capabilities" and indicated that it is capable of high off-boresight attacks and has super maneuverability.


Images from 2013 and more recently confirm that the PL-10 uses thrust vectoring vanes in its motor exhaust. These, plus unique large aft fins with a slight forward sweep, likely confer super manoeuvrability.

Like comparable AAMs, the PL-10 probably also uses a new helmet-mounted display (HMD) sighting system.


Chief designer reveals data on China's new Luoyang PL-10 AAM | IHS Jane's 360
 
Chief designer reveals data on China's new Luoyang PL-10 AAM
Richard D Fisher Jr, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
18 September 2015
1642851_-_main.jpg

A Luoyang Electro Optic Research Institute (LEOC) PL-10 5th generation air-to-air missile on a Shenyang J-11. Source: Chinese internet


The Luoyang Electro-Optical Research Institute (LEOC) has largely competed development of its fifth-generation PL-10 short-range air-to-air missile (AAM), according to comments by the missile's designer on a Chinese TV show broadcast in late August.

The PL-10 AAM was first seen on Chinese websites in 2013 being carried on a retractable/covered pylon on the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) J-20 fifth-generation fighter. More recently it has been seen on the wingtip pylon of the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation J-11 fighter.

The TV report featured an interview with the PL-10's chief designer, Liang Xiaogeng. According to Mark Stokes of the Project 2049 research institute, Liang also served as the deputy chief designer of LEOC's PL-9C infrared/helmet-sighted AAM and as chief designer of the PL-12 self-guided medium-range AAM.

The report was unusual in that it provided significant historic and performance data about a new weapon before its unveiling at a major arms show or exhibition. For example, the report noted that the PL-10 weighs 89 kg, has a length of 3 m, and a range of 20 km. It has been in development for seven years, a prototype was completed in 2013, and since then has been test-fired 30 times.

The report also noted that the PL-10 has "world class" capabilities that include a "multi-element imaging infrared seeker with anti-jamming capabilities" and indicated that it is capable of high off-boresight attacks and has super maneuverability.


Images from 2013 and more recently confirm that the PL-10 uses thrust vectoring vanes in its motor exhaust. These, plus unique large aft fins with a slight forward sweep, likely confer super manoeuvrability.

Like comparable AAMs, the PL-10 probably also uses a new helmet-mounted display (HMD) sighting system.


Chief designer reveals data on China's new Luoyang PL-10 AAM | IHS Jane's 360



Check this thread, J-10 B is flying with PL-10 these days.

Next-Gen Chinese AAM for JF-17 Block III | Page 2

Feast your Eyes ..
JF-17 loaded with MAR-1 Missile.


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If I remember correctly MAR-1 is Photoshop on the JF-17 because I have seen this pic somewhere else years ago. . Pic is real, but not the MAR 1
 
So are we going to have PL-10 and PL-15 for future JFT block?
Thanks in advance
 
So are we going to have PL-10 and PL-15 for future JFT block?
Thanks in advance
Well that was the basic concept behind going for JF-17 in the first place. In-House production and our share in development enables us to go for rapid integration of latest weapons systems on our plane. We do not have to ASK or CONVENIENCE western world for these goodies.
So yes, count on it, future JF-17 planes will get the latest AAM missile technology for sure. However, PL-15 is some considerable time away and we may FIRST see it with some future 5th generation purchases after which it is highly likely that it will arm the JFT as well.
 
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Well that was the basic concept behind going for JF-17 in the first place. In-House production and our share in development enables us to go for rapid integration of latest weapons systems on our plane. We do not have to ASK or CONVENIENCE western world for these goodies.
So yes, count on it, future JF-17 planes will get the latest AAM missile technology for sure. However, PL-15 is some considerable time away and we may FIRST see it with some future 5th generation purchases after which it is highly likely that it will arm the JFT as well.

Thanks for info. So also I am not just in love with the bird but always loves to see the JFT more lethal so hope that by the time it will be matured and will be integrated with more reliable and deadliest gadgets. Indeed it's still growing and no matter it will be matured but personally speaking in low to mid tier my hopes are high for JFT block III.
 
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Pakistan to stick with RD-93 engine for JF-17, say PAF officials

Reuben F Johnson, Dubai - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

18 November 2015

A Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Thunder making the type's first European display at the Paris Air Show on 15 June. Source: IHS/Patrick Allen

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) has no plans to replace the JF-17 fighter's Klimov/Sarkisov RD-93 powerplant despite Chinese suggestions otherwise, according to Pakistan Air Force (PAF) officials.

While several, non-specific statements have been made by representatives from Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) during the past few months, a PAC senior representative recently told IHS Jane's , "We are completely satisfied with this Russian-made engine.

"When we designed the JF-17 we evaluated a number of design alternatives and we determined that the RD-93 in this single-engine installation is absolutely right for this application," he said. "We worked extensively with the people from Klimov bureau in St Petersburg [Russia] and this engine turned out to be an ideal solution."

PAC representatives added that the next step is to establish a full-scale servicing and overhaul facility for the RD-93 at their plant in Kamra.

"What does this tell you?" asked one programme officer rhetorically. "If the situation was as it has been portrayed at times - that we are just utilising the RD-93 as a temporary solution until the Chinese can 'save' us with their own new engine - then we would not be expending the resources to set up this overhaul base. For us, changing to another engine would not make any sense and would be disruptive and cause a huge expense for the JF-17 programme."

PAF officials told IHS Jane's at the 2015 Dubai Air Show that improvements to the JF-17's design and the reliability of the RD-93 have attracted a number of interested parties.

"The experience at [the Paris Airshow in] Le Bourget brought about 11-12 countries that approached us with some interest in a JF-17 acquisition," said one of the officials. "Out of all of those there are today some four or five customers that we regard as being serious prospects in the near term." PAC representatives declined to name any of those countries, however.
 

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