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First flight of 15-201 took place on February 9, 2015. It is expected that all the Block I JF-17s will be upgraded to the Block II standard in the future. In January 2015 one FC-1 prototype ([HASHTAG]#0213[/HASHTAG]) was seen testing a new environmental control system for the high temperature/high humidity environment, presumably at the request of potential customers from Africa, South Asia or South America. It was reported in April 2015 that Argentine Air Force has been negotiating to order a number of JF-17 Block IIs but no further information is available. Recent news (June 2015) suggested that the FC-1 #05 prototype is being converted to the JF-17B trainer configuration. The latest news (June 2015) claimed that FC-1 just secured its first export contract from an unknown Asian customer.

now is this 05th prototype ?
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It was unveiled in Zuhahi airshow 2014 along with New ELINT and datalink hardware, wonder if that goes into jf-17 as well


CETC new tactical data link (first export-oriented tactical data link) which most probably go into JF-17 and new EW pod from China, KG600 Airborne self protection Jammer as well as KZ-900 ELINT pod


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中国电子科技集团公司 (CETC WEBSITE)


Ironically KG600 and KZ-900 both are new products of CETC and seems to be the successor of KG300G and miniaturization of KZ800 system

KZ800 Airborne Electronic Intelligence System

The KZ800 is a computerised airborne electronic intelligence (ELINT) system designed to be installed on medium- to large-size aircraft to detect, identify and locate hostile land-based or shipborne radar emitters operating within frequency band 1.0-18.0GHz, and accurately measure and analyse the intercepted signal parameters. The analysis of the aforesaid radar information can provide key information on the configurations of hostile air defense radar networks, the distribution of enemy operational airports, and the deployment of enemy artillery and missile troops.

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Paris Air Show 2015: JF-17 fighter flying with indigenous Chinese turbofan - IHS Jane's 360
  • Chinese officials at the Paris Air Show have said flight-testing of a new indigenous engine for the JF-17 Thunder is under way
  • Officials also confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani-developed aircraft had achieved its first international sale, although they did not disclose the customer
A senior Chinese aviation official has revealed that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation FC-1/JF-17 fighter co-developed with Pakistan has been test-flown with a new Chinese medium-thrust turbofan engine.

Li Yuhai, an executive vice president with the Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC), told IHS Jane's at the Paris Airshow that a new Chinese turbofan for the J-17 has been "under testing," has completed "lab tests", and that "flight testing is in progress".
 
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PAF To Induct JF-17 Block III By 2016 | idrw.org

According to PAF sources, the multi-role fighter will be inducted in the Air Force by 2016. The Block III version will also enable pilots to see all required data on the helmet-screen.

Sources added that the Block III version of the JF-17 Thunder will feature a two-seater cockpit option.


You guys are getting too many good news now..:mad:

:tup:


Paris Air Show 2015: JF-17 fighter flying with indigenous Chinese turbofan - IHS Jane's 360
  • Chinese officials at the Paris Air Show have said flight-testing of a new indigenous engine for the JF-17 Thunder is under way
  • Officials also confirmed that the Sino-Pakistani-developed aircraft had achieved its first international sale, although they did not disclose the customer
A senior Chinese aviation official has revealed that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation FC-1/JF-17 fighter co-developed with Pakistan has been test-flown with a new Chinese medium-thrust turbofan engine.

Li Yuhai, an executive vice president with the Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC), told IHS Jane's at the Paris Airshow that a new Chinese turbofan for the J-17 has been "under testing," has completed "lab tests", and that "flight testing is in progress".


I don't think Pakistan will rush for ws engine,.. Atleast until block 3 got over..
 
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PAF To Induct JF-17 Block III By 2016 | idrw.org

According to PAF sources, the multi-role fighter will be inducted in the Air Force by 2016. The Block III version will also enable pilots to see all required data on the helmet-screen.

Sources added that the Block III version of the JF-17 Thunder will feature a two-seater cockpit option.


You guys are getting too many good news now..:mad:

:tup:





I don't think Pakistan will rush for ws engine,.. Atleast until block 3 got over..
You guys should buy it. :D
 
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You guys should buy it. :D


:D Thanks for the offer..

But I think it's time , good news about LCA also announced

I waiting waiting ... But :mad: To see good news about JF 17 coming out.

U guys can :partay: Now.

And block 3 improvements were less compared what we thought,
 
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:D Thanks for the offer..

But I think it's time , good news about LCA also announced

I waiting waiting ... But :mad: To see good news about JF 17 coming out.

U guys can :partay: Now.

And block 3 improvements were less compared what we thought,
HMD + AESA + IRST + Additional hardpoint for targeting pod

above are confirmed upgrades for blk 3.

What more did you have in mind?

Personally, i'd like a full FBW + HOBS + enclosed weapons pods
 
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Guys any news regarding A-Darter? South African HMD with A-Darter for JFT makes sense.

@MastanKhan @HRK @Oscar @Horus
Nothing is or will happen on that since for the time being there is an Indian lobby working hard against it in SA.
The Indian hate is beyond the basic stupid statements they make, if it were up to them.. Pakistan would be starved of medicine and vaccines. There is a LOT, that the foreign office accomplishes that no one knows about in its daily battle with its counterparts in India.
 
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Nothing is or will happen on that since for the time being there is an Indian lobby working hard against it in SA.
The Indian hate is beyond the basic stupid statements they make, if it were up to them.. Pakistan would be starved of medicine and vaccines. There is a LOT, that the foreign office accomplishes that no one knows about in its daily battle with its counterparts in India.
They have to make a better offer. Any idea what it is?
 
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Some investment elsewhere in the SA economy.
Makes sense as Denel is a state owned company.

Hope our lobbyists win this one.

What do you think about Turkish WVR project? Do you think we can/should join it?
 
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Makes sense as Denel is a state owned company.

Hope our lobbyists win this one.

What do you think about Turkish WVR project? Do you think we can/should join it?
Nothing of that sort happening either. Turkey is progressing but is still a long way off on key tech that they cannot reverse engineer due to their need to remain on the legal side.
 
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Will First JF-17 Export Spur New Buyers?

By Usman Ansari

ISLAMABAD — Analysts say confirmation of the first JF-17 Thunder export order could encourage other potential buyers to step forward, but they acknowledge many factors could complicate a deal.


Analyst and former Air Force pilot Air Commodore Kaiser Tufail is optimistic that JF-17 will now attract further customers.

"I am sure that after the deal that has been signed with the hitherto unknown 'Asian' country, the aircraft sales will surely get a big boost, and many Asian and African countries might be interested in it," he said.

The customer in question is believed to be Myanmar, and the head of the country's Air Force, Gen. Khin Aung Myint, was in Pakistan at the end of May for a four-day visit at the invitation of the Pakistan Air Force. He met senior defense officials and toured various bases and installations, though little more was said about the trip at the time.

Details, such as cost and the number of aircraft involved, are not known, but deliveries are expected to commence in 2017, according to information made available by Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, head of the Air Force's sales and marketing effort for the aircraft type.

When Defense News asked Mahmood if he thought potential customers would be encouraged by the deal, he was optimistic, but also realistic.

"The first deal will certainly encourage other potential customers to conclude deals with us," he said.

"However, it is difficult to give a timeline because there are many variables and mostly they depend on the customer countries. Sometimes it seems that the deal is around the corner but because of reasons like political instability in the country or in the neighborhood or for some other reasons, the timelines are pushed.

"So one is never sure unless the contract is inked," he added.

Similarly, in spite of the first export success, analyst author and former Australian defense attache to Islamabad Brian Cloughley says things will not be so simple.

"I think [China] and Pakistan will redouble efforts to sell the JF-17 but that in spite of this modest success will continue to find it difficult to do so," he said.

However, Cloughley still believes "given the reasonable price, absence of the usual technology-transfer strings attached, and overall effectiveness of the system, very attractive offers could be made."

Adding, "Central America and Africa might be good markets, especially given China's most active presence in both regions."

Argentina and Nigeria have previously been linked to potential orders, with the latter widely speculated to have been on the brink of signing a deal at the end of last year during Pakistan's biennial defense exhibition, the International Defence Exhibition And Seminar.

Argentina is still believed to be heavily targeted as it attempts to modernize its airpower, which has suffered from a lack of investment since the country's defeat in the 1982 Falklands War with the UK.

One target customer that may have slipped through the net is Egypt, which became the first export customer for France's Rafale and has recently been linked to a deal for MiG-29 Fulcrum fighters from Russia.

With large numbers of legacy Mig-21/F-7 and Mirage 5 fighters to be replaced, it would have been a lucrative customer, but Tufail believes it has been a missed opportunity for both.

"I think Egypt does not have the money to buy more fighters after the Rafale purchase," he said. "I think they would have done well to have gone for the JF-17, as they could have bought almost a 100 of them for the price of far fewer Rafales."

Nevertheless, three JF-17s are at the Paris Air Show, with one participating in the aerial display, in continuing efforts to attract more customers who may now be more interested after a first export deal has been confirmed.

Email: uansari@defensenews.com
 
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