JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[SQ8]

so if the JFT is providing comparable capability = or more than F-16 Blk -15 - 30 - 40, then why persue the FC-20 whose performance is considered 'similar' by western analysts?

Not entirely accurate assessments.
They base their performance estimates on what is known about the J-10A.
The FC-20 is not a concrete concept or frozen design as a first..
It started out being a Pakistani J-10A.. then moved on to a customized J-10B..
The J-10 airframe offers longer dry range, heavier payload carrying capacity and greater space and power for advanced avionics such as AESA.
The JF-17 cannot match it for space and power.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

so if the JFT is providing comparable capability = or more than F-16 Blk -15 - 30 - 40, then why persue the FC-20 whose performance is considered 'similar' by western analysts?

this is not the good thing to point out sir.
Neighbours are increasing day by day and we are decreasing. we cannot rely on two similar platform F-16, JF-17 at all. we must have something different. we cannot end up that program like this, there are 300+ pages in FC-20 thread, we spent alot time on it

 

[Manticore]

the spare parts of jft will be less costly, plus rd93 uses less fuel -- so paf can train the pilots on it by affording more flight hours

the aerodynamic design/payload/range/maintance/internal space/engine thrust are different as compared to j10

 

[KRAIT]

Not entirely accurate assessments.
They base their performance estimates on what is known about the J-10A.
The FC-20 is not a concrete concept or frozen design as a first..
It started out being a Pakistani J-10A.. then moved on to a customized J-10B..
The J-10 airframe offers longer dry range, heavier payload carrying capacity and greater space and power for advanced avionics such as AESA.
The JF-17 cannot match it for space and power.

Rightly said.......

 

[rockstarIN]

the spare parts of jft will be less costly, plus rd93 uses less fuel -- so paf can train the pilots on it by affording more flight hours

the aerodynamic design/payload/range/maintance/internal space/engine thrust are different as compared to j10

Debatable, usually Russian engines are more thirsty and maintenance prone.

 

[SQ8]

Debatable, usually Russian engines are more thirsty and maintenance prone.

In this case it has been a surprise.. the Rd-93 is becoming fairly popular among its maintainers.
The PAF like it a lot.. Im sure the IAF would have a word to two about that from their exp with it.

 

[fatman17]

In this case it has been a surprise.. the Rd-93 is becoming fairly popular among its maintainers.
The PAF like it a lot.. Im sure the IAF would have a word to two about that from their exp with it.

wasnt the RD93 a derivative of RD33 which powers the MiG-29's

 

[ironman]

In this case it has been a surprise.. the Rd-93 is becoming fairly popular among its maintainers.
The PAF like it a lot.. Im sure the IAF would have a word to two about that from their exp with it.

Not one or two.. the entire.

Fighter Aicraft, MiG-29/4

 

[alimobin memon]

Just start new Project jf18 which is better than jf17 but cheaper than even j10

 

[farhan_9909]

Just start new Project jf18 which is better than jf17 but cheaper than even j10

we dnt need another 4th gen project

JFT III would be a very good 4.5th gen fighter

its better we get into JV with china for a single engine 5th gen fighter.

why start another 4th gen fighter program when JFT is doing fine.

 

[The enlightened]

we dnt need another 4th gen project

JFT III would be a very good 4.5th gen fighter

its better we get into JV with china for a single engine 5th gen fighter.

why start another 4th gen fighter program when JFT is doing fine.

Why not just buy more F 16's with a lot more spares.
Or upgrade the current F-16's to Block 60.

 

[SQ8]

Just start new Project jf18 which is better than jf17 but cheaper than even j10

No i think its better to start project JF-(17.8776034) ..
Please.. think about the funding, the time and chance before making such statements.

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Why not just buy more F 16's with a lot more spares.
Or upgrade the current F-16's to Block 60.

The Americans dont allow it and it takes finances.

Not possible, as the block 60 is an entirely new beast.. the current F-16's are being upgraded to F-16 block 52 standard less CFT's.

 

[farhan_9909]

Why not just buy more F 16's with a lot more spares.
Or upgrade the current F-16's to Block 60.

block 60?

why nt wait a few years and buy j-10B in bulk numbers than

150 JFT+around 80 F-16(old and new all upgraded to block 50/52 standard) and 2 squardens of J-10B.
i think this is very good for defensive purpose

i agree india is inducting fighters in very large numbers

bt india is preparing itself against both pakistan and china.
we dnt need thousands fighter because in war even if happens nt all the fighters will take part.

in the past three wars nor india neither pakistan air force was emptized of aircrafts.reason because no airforce destroy any other airforce fully

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150 JFT
some around 80 F-16
and 36 J-10B
along with 8 awacs

with these numbers we can teach lessson to any country.

 

[The enlightened]

No i think its better to start project JF-(17.8776034) ..
Please.. think about the funding, the time and chance before making such statements.

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The Americans dont allow it and it takes finances.

Not possible, as the block 60 is an entirely new beast.. the current F-16's are being upgraded to F-16 block 52 standard less CFT's.

Realistically speaking how effective can the new F-16's blk 52's be against an oncoming Indian onslaught.
But if the Americans don't allow. Then it's a completely diffrerent issue. Sorry didn't know that.

 

[rockstarIN]

In this case it has been a surprise.. the Rd-93 is becoming fairly popular among its maintainers.
The PAF like it a lot.. Im sure the IAF would have a word to two about that from their exp with it.

If that is the case, we could have gone for Russian engines for our own fighter engine needs.

Btw: wts ur old name here? Oscar?