JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[SQ8]

To add to that..These come in useful for taking in extra airflow during takeoff and the opposite when the aircraft is supersonic.
They must have a really neat spill door system underneath that.

 

[Windjammer]

To add to that..These come in useful for taking in extra airflow during takeoff and the opposite when the aircraft is supersonic.
They must have a really neat spill door system underneath that.

My dear, I am talking about the squares of tiny holes around the intake area.

 

[SQ8]

My dear, I am talking about the squares of tiny holes around the intake area.

Exactly what I am referring to.. They take in air on the ground.. and spill excess air when not needed.. all through aerodynamics thanks to the DSI.

 

[Windjammer]

Exactly what I am referring to.. They take in air on the ground.. and spill excess air when not needed.. all through aerodynamics thanks to the DSI.

Then that's some serious aerodynamics in place.... I just considered the bump to be like a cone on a Mirage.

 

[Tempest II]

The CCIP and CCRP modes on the JF are as accurate if not more as on the F-16's..
It has all the modes of A2A and A2G present on the APG-66.. with a bit more thrown in.
And Like the F-16.. the JF isnt just a light fighter anymore.. It is a technological powerhouse.

Which version of APG-66?

 

[SQ8]

Which version of APG-66?

You cannot compare it on a mirrored basis.
There are features in the current mutation of KJL-7 that arent in the APG-66 but existed in the earlier versions of APG-68.
Then.. there are some features in the KJL that are slightly inferior to those present in the APG-66.

 

[Dazzler]

An ingenious piece of work originally developed by Lockheed Martin so credit goes to them

 

[Dazzler]

Overall performance of KLJ-7 is rated above that of APG-68 later versions, i have talked to some they all have said the same thing. No one in PAF was expecting this versatile and efficient radar by China in such a short span of time> Remember back in 2004-05, AVM (rtd) Shahid Latif said they were not satisfied even with J-10 Radar (early variant not the current one off course).

 

[Tempest II]

In a way I want/I expect the radar to approach the APG-68 and the PS-05/A. While cheap is always desirable, but you cannot focus on price alone and buy something that does not do what you want. I say so because look at how Fulcrums and Flankers are spreading even in the poorer countries. The US will be selling off F-16s they no longer need, but also to help their allies/customer counter the 29s & 27s. China has to offer these guys a respectable equivalent/rival.

In my part of the world we have Flankers, we have Fulcrums, we have Gripens and if one is to buy the Thunders to meet their defence needs for the next 10-15 years with the said aircraft as the potential rivals, then China has to have a good offering.

Some countries talking of 2nd hand F-15s.

 

[muse]

It seems no matter how many times people read that the JFT is a PAF specific aircraft, they still do not want to acknowledge what that means.

 

[Tempest II]

It seems no matter how many times people read that the JFT is a PAF specific aircraft, they still do not want to acknowledge what that means.

Point taken and apologies for using JF-17 synonymous with FC-1. The point I was trying to make is that China and Pakistan will need to offer a credible deterrant/rival to the fighters I noted if they are to sell the FC-1 as they are hopping to.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Where are those JF17 thunders , 50 we need em , we will think about selling after we have our own 300 fighter jets we need them pronto

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

You cannot compare it on a mirrored basis.
There are features in the current mutation of KJL-7 that arent in the APG-66 but existed in the earlier versions of APG-68.
Then.. there are some features in the KJL that are slightly inferior to those present in the APG-66.

Overall performance of KLJ-7 is rated above that of APG-68 later versions, i have talked to some they all have said the same thing. No one in PAF was expecting this versatile and efficient radar by China in such a short span of time> Remember back in 2004-05, AVM (rtd) Shahid Latif said they were not satisfied even with J-10 Radar (early variant not the current one off course).

KLJ-7 ? only initial batch of eight Thunders (101 - 107, 109) that came from china house KLJ-7. Rest of the aircrafts (108, 110 - onwards) produced in PAC are carrying KLJ-10.
Because PAF was not satisfied with KLJ-7 performance.

The fire control radar is thought to be a Chinese KLJ-7 X-band multi-functional PD radar in the initial batches of 8, then subsequently switched to KLJ-10 with a better performance (track 10 engage 2, look-up range 75km, look-down range 45km for RCS=3m2).
Chinese Military Aviation | China Air Force

 

[Dazzler]

KLJ-7 ? only initial batch of eight Thunders (101 - 107, 109) that came from china house KLJ-7. Rest of the aircrafts (108, 110 - onwards) produced in PAC are carrying KLJ-10.
Because PAF was not satisfied with KLJ-7 performance.

Really? then why PAF is manufacturing KLJ-7 instead of KLJ-10? This news is wrong and KLJ-07 is the one being used and manufactured. Performance is pretty good in all modes. No hassles. Next in line will be AESA for next batch.

 

[farhan_9909]

KLJ-7 ? only initial batch of eight Thunders (101 - 107, 109) that came from china house KLJ-7. Rest of the aircrafts (108, 110 - onwards) produced in PAC are carrying KLJ-10.
Because PAF was not satisfied with KLJ-7 performance.

this is nt true,

ths in the net from the last two years

bt it is confirmed that the JFT uses KLJ-7 instead of KLJ-10
for more you can search for that of pakistan to manufacture radar for JFT locally and the pic of KLJ-7 is in the backgroundi instead of the KLJ-10 one