JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[Luftwaffe]

I maybe wrong but it looks more like nose cone is covered. and the airplane is too low it could be JL-9?

And what plane is on the left side? J10? Again i could be wrong it seems JF-17 but then again from this angle the tail doesn't seem to suggest its JFT.

 

[Manticore]

IMO。。。i guess^_^。

i wasnt sure at first-- as the hight of jf17 is very low as compared to j10b--- but then i noticed the dsi

 

[monitor]

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[fatman17]

Integration confirmed for Brazil's MAR-1 missile

can confirm that Pakistan has taken delivery of the Brazilian MAR-1 anti-radiation missile and is integrating the weapon on its PAC JF-17 Thunder...
05-May-2011

Defence Weekly
Robert Hewson Air-Launched Weapons Editor - London


can confirm that Pakistan has taken delivery of the Brazilian MAR-1 anti-radiation missile and is integrating the weapon on its PAC JF-17 Thunder multirole combat aircraft as well as upgraded Dassault Mirage III and V ROSE fighters.

The MAR-1 is an air-launched defence suppression weapon developed as an independent national programme by Mectron in co-operation with the Brazilian Air Force (FAB).

In 2008 a MAR-1 order from Pakistan for 100 missiles valued at EUR85 million (USD126 million) was announced by the Brazilian government, which provided export credit support for the deal. Reports from Pakistan suggested that deliveries started in 2009.

Mectron would not comment on the MAR-1 programme except to say that "we have an export client and we have delivered missiles to that client". However, during the April 2011 Latin American Aerospace and Defence (LAAD) show in Rio de Janeiro, learnt that an active integration effort is now underway for both the ROSE Mirage and JF-17 in Pakistan Air Force (PAF) service.

This confirms statements made during the 2010 Farnborough Airshow by the PAF's JF-17 Programme Manager, Air Vice Marshall Mohammad Arif, who identified the MAR-1 as a future JF-17 weapon.

The JF-17 is a co-development project between Pakistan and China. It is now in full production at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), Kamra, where about 30 aircraft have been assembled. In April 2011 the PAF stood up its second JF-17 unit (No 26 Squadron) and a third unit (No.4 Squadron) will follow later this year.

Integration of the MAR-1 with the JF-17 shows that Pakistan has a well-structured programme to expand the capability of the aircraft beyond its Chinese roots. The MAR-1 is the second non-Chinese weapon that the JF-17 is known to be adopting after the Hafr runway penetration bomb. Pakistan has also explored the possibility of adding French avionics (including radar) and weapons (including the Mica air-to-air missile) to the aircraft, but PAF JF-17 programme officials told that those options have been shelved in favour of "less politically complicated projects".

Once operational, the MAR-1 will be the PAF's only modern anti-radiation weapon and a significant boost to its combat capabilities. The missile has several operational modes, but is typically used in a pre-programmed attack against known emitting targets in a lock-on-after-launch engagement. Mectron has developed a dedicated mission planning system for such operations.

The MAR-1 is likely to operate, at least initially, with a 'missile-as-sensor' function, meaning that the weapon's own wideband radio frequency seeker is the primary sensor for emitter location and targeting. The JF-17's Chinese developers certainly have the expertise to produce a more capable emitter location system in the future. The MAR-1 can also use supplementary targeting information from the JF-17's radar warning receivers.

Pakistan has a growing number of electronic intelligence (ELINT) systems with which it can build an electronic order of battle of hostile emitters to support MAR-1 targeting. This includes the highly capable HES-21 ELINT system carried by the PAF's recently delivered Erieye airborne early warning and control aircraft.

The MAR-1 is fully MIL-STD-1553 and -1760 databus compatible. For non databus-equipped aircraft a standalone integration using a dedicated fire-control unit and display can be fitted in the cockpit. That is the approach adopted for Brazil's non-upgraded Embraer AMX (A-1) attack aircraft. The MAR-1 has yet to enter formal FAB service, but understands that qualification flight testing in Brazil will conclude by the end of 2011.

A full-scale model of Mectron's MAR-1 anti-radiation missile, which will add a significant new capability to Pakistan's JF-17 fighters.

already posted!

 

[monitor]

already posted!

Sorry didn't check

 

[Mani2020]

So finally the enigma is over and we have a surety (somewhat) popping out through the above posted article regarding MAR-1

 

[farhan_9909]

this is definately not J-10,

the intakes are not below.

 

[araz]

is it real ??????? or PS ????

It may be a PS but the changes to my inexpert eye appear doable. I guess one would have to ask whether these changes would make any difference to the RCS(Frontal) and whether this would make it a financially viable option as well. Change to beautify does not work in the military circles!!!
Araz

 

[Dazzler]

Quite Strange, White pain on nose?.... I mean this is a very oversized subject...

Diamond shape is visible through the cover, seems JFT stealth for sure, also visible are the extended leading edges from intake root. thanks for sharing bro What surprised me is the tail section as it seems slanted! Could there be twin tail??

 

[Jango]

Am standing right below these demos, right in the garden of my office lawn. The are doing the same moves as they did at Zhuhai Airshow.

And its awesome to see them in action, i wish they had been doing the demo at a little more lower altitude.



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Am standing right below these demos, right in the garden of my office lawn. The are doing the same moves as they did at Zhuhai Airshow.

And its awesome to see them in action, i wish they had been doing the demo at a little more lower altitude.

i heard that thunders coming to F9 park in islamabad...is it true???...on 22nd may.

 

[SBD-3]

Diamond shape is visible through the cover, seems JFT stealth for sure, also visible are the extended leading edges from intake root. thanks for sharing bro What surprised me is the tail section as it seems slanted! Could there be twin tail??

I also had an impression but angle seems too vertical for me to believe a canted tails pair be over there.

 

[Dazzler]

I have heard the Radar is a smaller version of J-10B AESA radar.

 

[farhan_9909]

I have heard the Radar is a smaller version of J-10B AESA radar.

if true then you made my night

 

[SBD-3]

I have heard the Radar is a smaller version of J-10B AESA radar.

makes a lot of sense when they have gone for redesign, it would make sense to incorporate AESA as well. Also given the fact that nose is a lot bigger now. Just wondering how aircraft would look with a relatively bigger nose and what name to give JFT V2 or JFT V1 Beta

 

[Conqueror]

^^ that is JFT NG. In Video terminology, we call a "shot" an NG shot which is not up-to expectations.. I hope this won't be case with JFT NG :p