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i have found this on rupee news

i don't know the credibility but if its true than :victory::victory::victory:

Despite Bharati propoganda, there is no issue of getting RD-93 engines from Russia. The successful trials of WS-13 have already happened last year, and there are JF-17 Thunder prototypes flying with WS-13s. Pakistan is also building a version of WS-13 which would be totally indigenous. The JF-17 Thunder will be built in blocks of 50

JF-17 Rupee News

Its unsubstantiated and therefore probably incorrect. WS13 is not far away, a couple of yrs. to induction.
Araz
 
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Its PL-5 short air to air


Weight 148kg (PL-5B, PL-5C), 83kg (PL-5E)
Length 3.128m (PL-5B, PL-5C), 2.893m (PL-5E)
Diameter 0.127m (PL-5E)
Warhead Detonation 6kg blast-frag, or expanding rod (RF-fuse)

mechanism Active infrared, laser proximity fuse(PL-5EII)
Engine Solid-fuel rocket
Wingspan 0.657m (PL-5B, PL-5C), 0.617m (PL-5E)
Operational range 1.3-16km (PL-5B, PL-5C), 0.5-16~18km (PL-5E)
Speed Mach 2.5
Guidance system Infrared homing,multi-element, dual band detector(PL-5EII)

doesn't the pl-5 have a much less operational range?
we need long range air-air missiles!!!:sniper:
 
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doesn't the pl-5 have a much less operational range?
we need long range air-air missiles!!!:sniper:

it is a within visual range missile...lemme give you a start there are generally two types of missiles...BVR and WVR.....you can do further research. (Purpose: learn to fly with your own wings):tup:
 
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PAF Chief says no problems in acquiring engines for JF-17 aircraft


FARNBOROUGH, July 21 (APP)-Pakistan Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman has rubbished claims that production of JF-17 Thunder warplanes has been hit by problems relating to procurement of Russian engines and said the manufacturing of the fighter planes in joint collaboration with China was proceeding smoothly. The Air Chief was speaking to media on the occasion of his visit to Farnborough International Air Show where two PAF JF-17 aircraft are on static display.



“There are no problems whatsoever regarding the supply of engines for these aircraft contrary what has been appearing in the international media,” he asserted.
The Air Chief who visited the site where two PAF planes are on display and met the pilots and the ground staff, said he has been encouraged by the positive response of friendly countries who have shown interest in the aircraft.
He said both Pakistan and China have evolved a joint strategy to sell these planes to the interested countries.
The President of China Aviation Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC), Li Yu Hai who was also present on the occasion categorically stated that they have received no information from Russia on suspending the further supply of 100 RD-93 engines.
The Pakistani Air Force chief added that China has also manufactured engines for this aircraft which are currently under testing and trials.
“We have to see how far these engines are successfully and then possibly induct them into JF-17”.

He said Pakistan was looking to manufacture around 250 of these aircraft to replacing its present fleet of A-5s, FP-7 and Mirages.
According to Jane’s Defence Weekly, Egypt has launched negotiations with Pakistan in relation to licensed production of these single engine multimode fighter aircraft.
According to the magazine, the Russian defence manufacturers are facing strong competition from China vis-à-vis their MIG-29s which carry a price tag of US $ 35 million as compared to 10 million dollars for FC-1 fighters.
The magazine said MIG-29s are currently competing with FC-1s in an Egyptian tender on the delivery of 32 fighters while the Middle East country is also negotiating with Pakistan.
The Russian Federal Service for Military Technical Co-operation approved re-export of RD-93 engines to Egypt as part of the FC-1 fighter package in November 2007.
While the PAF chief was visiting static display of JF-17, overhead an array of latest Western fighter planes including the state-of-the-art F-22 Raptor, F-16, F-18, Euro fighter Typhoon, British-made Hawke trainer thrilled the crowd with their aeronautical characteristics during the flying display.
Pakistan plans to fly the JF-17 planes at the next 2012 show. In the meantime, these planes will also participate in the Singapore International Air Show next year.
The Commander of the Saudi Arabian Dharan Airbase also visited the site and evinced keen interest in JF-17. As he sat in the cockpit he was explained about its various features by wing commander Khalid who flew one of the planes from Pakistan. The PAF Chief also sat in the cockpit. Air Vice Marshal Muhammad Arif. Project, Director, of JF-17 was also present on the occasion.
Both Pakistan and China have set up a joint stall at the main exhibition hall and has been receiving numerous enquiries regarding the aircraft which has put on display for the first time at an international air show.
The Pakistan Air Force officially inducted its first JF-17 squadron on February 18 this year.
The JF-17 aircraft will be produced in blocks of 50 aircraft each where every succeeding block would be an upgraded version of the preceding block. Pakistan ’s share in co-production of the airframe of JF-17 aircraft would be more than 50%. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, Kamra, has the capacity to roll-out 15-25 aircraft per year.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - PAF Chief says no problems in acquiring engines for JF-17 aircraft
 
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As per the JF-17 program chief, work still continues on integrating a Chinese BVR (SD-10A) missile with the JF-17 radar, which they're hoping will be done before the year ends. This should put an end to the speculation regarding this matter.
 
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dear mastan khan give a blink of your idea about of jf 17-rupee news with regards
 
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WMD-7 is between 200-250 KGs and can be carried on fuselage or inner wing pylons. Plans are in place to add a chip pylon dedicated for pods.
 
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Let me state again, sd-10 was the baseline model with 70 km range and A version has a range of 100 kms. Issues with radar and bvr integration is over and this is why it is promoted with sd-10A as this version offers better modes, less interface issues and more range than basic version. PAF has plans to induct sd-10A with current JFT radar which is in my knowledge, the KLJ-10
 
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If RCS was the main strengh of a Fighter than MIG21 bison and indeed TEJAS LCA have far lower RCS than both Thunder and MKI.

iF ONLY IT WAS THAT SIMPLE.

Consider a Pesa radar processing speed over a MECHANICAL RADAR like KLJ10

Consider 12 bvr missles versis 4

Consider far bigger more powerful jammers with vast range and reach

Consider twin engines , more speed more fuel more range

Consider 2 pilots versis one

Consider Israeli and french electronic Warefare suites versis chinease

DON,T JUST LIVE ON RCS
 
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WMD-7 is between 200-250 KGs and can be carried on fuselage or inner wing pylons. Plans are in place to add a chip pylon dedicated for pods.

Thanks for replying and for precise information.

This show brought lot of information about thunder but still, two (2) Hard points, air to air refuling, IRST, FLIR and internal Airborne Self-Protection Jamming system is missing. Lot of work to be done, but hopefully PAF will go ahead.
 
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If RCS was the main strengh of a Fighter than MIG21 bison and indeed TEJAS LCA have far lower RCS than both Thunder and MKI.

iF ONLY IT WAS THAT SIMPLE.

Consider a Pesa radar processing speed over a MECHANICAL RADAR like KLJ10

Consider 12 bvr missles versis 4

Consider far bigger more powerful jammers with vast range and reach

Consider twin engines , more speed more fuel more range

Consider 2 pilots versis one

Consider Israeli and french electronic Warefare suites versis chinease

DON,T JUST LIVE ON RCS

Your analysis and PAF VS IAF synthetic scenarios beat my wisdom every time buddy. How did you know that JFT has a bigger RCS than your Bisons? Great inside info you must have !:blah:
 
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Wow,
Apearance of Thunder at FIA has forced many things to come out in the open which Indian would never say before. Now the crux of discussion is JF-17 VS Su-30MK1.

Jf-17 will be eaten alive by SU-30MK1 but they do not mention Thunder eaten alive by Tejas, Mirage-2000 or Mig-29. Now we know where the competition lies thanks to our friens across the border.

Unthinkable just a few days ago but see what is being posted on this thread.
 
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Sir, just adding to your point if I may, i can imagine the reputation of JFT will reach sky high the day it downed any of two Indian super duper fighters. What a day that would be ! We have downed them with inferior equipment in the past so i am confident we are capable enough to do it again !
 
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