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Why is the PAF still wanting to buy the F-16? There is no use for it becouse it can not be flown without permission of USA and cannot be used in any conflicts with India so why does PAF still want the F-16?

Saad Ali
Learn a few things before you forward an opinion. people sitting at the helm of affiars in PAF are certainly not fools nor are they unpatriotic. Give them a bit of credit.If you read the F16 posts on the forum your worries have already been answered in depth.
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Not necessarily, since those extension have some technical purpose...
They are pitot-static sensors for airspeed and altitude calculations.

...and doesn't hinder airframe's RCS reduction value.
Yes, they do...To an extent.

Either way, its payload as well as its metallic body is more then enough to increase its RCS significantly.
True. If RCS reduction efforts on the rest of the aircraft cannot yield an equivalent, meaning if I cannot find a 'doo-dad', calculate its influence, and remove it, then it is pointless to make any effort in finding an alternate and lower RCS pitot-static sensor.

Yes...Even though all protrusions, such as pitot-static sensors, antennas, pylons, etc...contribute to the aircraft's overall RCS value, and if I managed to create a pitot-static sensor that has a lower RCS contributing factor than the older design, but if there is something else on the aircraft that has a greater RCS contributing factor that I cannot remove, then that 'something' will always be the one that will reflect the most radar signals regardless of whatever changes I may have made to the pitot-static sensor. However, the location of the item also matter because there might be a chance where the item may be exposed to radar only at a certain angle in very short duration. In that case, then it is worthwhile to create a lower RCS pitot-static sensor.

This is why RCS reduction on any existing aircraft remain highly speculative unless there is a dedicated program to study the base aircraft at every radar aspect angle.

Got cash?
 
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which aircraft is more maneuverable F-16s/JF17's wing styled design or delta winged Mirage styled design

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What is the RCS of JF-17 (compared to F-16, Rafale, EF2000, Gripen) ??
 


which aircraft is more maneuverable F-16s/JF17's wing styled design or delta winged Mirage styled design

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Which Mirage? The delta is pretty good and maneuverable if it has enough power and energy. Our Mirage IIIs don't stack up as well to the F-16s because of their age and less power, however the Mirage 2000 takes good advantage of its deltas and thrust.
 
It is another JF-17 in the 2nd pic in Yellow color scheme, that is why its not very clear.

Both pics are from Kamra Air Base
 
Blain has posted the Pic already....tempist.

Anyways U guys should dedicate it to our MASTAN KHAN INC.
No offence.
 


which aircraft is more maneuverable F-16s/JF17's wing styled design or delta winged Mirage styled design

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Maneuverability is loosing its charm in the modern aerial warfare - those loops and rolls would not be as important in the future as they have been in the past.

Right now JFT has no HOBS/HMS capability , if you want to put it in a dogfight against a block52+ then good luck , F-16 will roast our JFT down in few seconds just because of JHMCS and HOBS and that applies to Mig-29's & MKI's too.

Block52+ has an advantage in the shape of JHMCS , LINK-16 , Core MMC Processor and other integrated sensors which MKI pilot does not have and once in a dogfight or detectable beyond visual range would be a game over for MKI or any other aircraft flying against a viper.
 
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