Umair Nawaz
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Well obviously my experience is no where close to yrs. So in the end obviously u know better.Hi,
I did not make the comparison---someone did it on yahoo . com ---I just posted the information with my comments----.
So---just because you do not like the article you lose the respect----that is being very shallow----. How can the efforts of 9 years and 7 months be washed away just like that---maybe---could it be you who does not have the ability---capacity---and the understanding to understand what I am saying.
What I am saying is that over these years---it is me amongst many who puts forward a few things that people may agree on, or disagree---. Pappy--it s very difficult to keep an eternal hard on all the time.
Embargos are a SOB STORY----. Benazir paid the money upfront for the coming embargo----so that she could keep 150 million bribe from the deal of the embargoed F 16's---. Other aircraft were available during that time.
JF 17 is not a life line---it a complimentary aircraft to heavy aircraft---that is when it would be at its best----by itself---it is a maybe---.
In the complimentary mode---it is indeed a lifeline---. It needs something to create a beach head---to fracture the defense for it to slip thru---that is where its rapier like capability will shine thru---.
Im not a military man either nor politician to know abt these things. But my field is International Relations and strategic. From that POV it makes sense.
Look no where anyone claims it to be on top of Su30s etc etc But when Indians were making Merat aircrafts we were still purchasing and got bamboozled by embargoes after 1965 and 1971. All the advantage that F86s had was completely neutralized when in 1971 they inducted Migs in numbers.
And the biggest embarrassment came to Pakistan or specifically PAF's face when in 1990 they embargoed us again just one yr after soviat withdraw. Yes u can argue that in 1994 abt M2000s instead of M3-4s etc but all in all Mushaf Ali Mir had a different plan in his mind. To make an aircraft that we can own and operate 100% fully to its greatest potential.
Yes we were late, very very late indians started their teja in 70s or 80s before that they had Merut's experience, At that time my guess is that PAF were overly confident .that they didnt made JFT or atleast started it back then so it could have been inducted in late 80s as super saber/saber2 just before sanctions. If they had done that today, we would be rolling out our own Medium weights or heavy weights.
Regardless of whatever reasons today we are not in that position and this is truth!
Now coming to this JFT of today, this is just a baby step that our domestic industry has taken but as time grows they keep on updating it do some RnD, experience and manufacturing capacity, we will grow in a position to eventually go for another ambitious project in medium or heavy category. Be it joint or indigenous.
There is a Chinese saying ''Journey of 1000 miles begins with a step'' u might have heard it often and if u look at Chinese they also started by copying migs, Su(s) etc etc. But all is good as long as we have full power on it which is made inside our own country by utilizing our own workforce. No matter how big of a crap it is.
I guess u being from auto industry can understand better its industrial POV that what it is when u yrself manufacture something and when u buy something, whats the difference and whats the wisdom in it.
In long run this will prove to be THE LIFELINE this way!
Thats how im looking at it. And i havnt even started to talk abt its strategic benefits and its comprehensive Strategic wisdom,
U will get bored.
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