JF-17 Fighter Jet & KJ-200 AEW&C to Make Debut at Airshow China 2010

[JK!]

Is the KJ200 an AEW&C or AWAC aircraft?

 

[Kompromat]

Is the KJ200 an AEW&C or AWAC aircraft?

KJ-200 is an AW&C based on Y-8 Air craft.

PAF version is ZDK-03 AESA AW&C Based on Y-8F600 air craft.

We are going to get the Disk shaped Radar not the one shown in this Picture.

Regards:

 

[razgriz19]

Is the KJ200 an AEW&C or AWAC aircraft?

awacs, aew&c all same stuff.....just different names!

 

[PAFAce]

Is the KJ200 an AEW&C or AWAC aircraft?

Do you mean is KJ200 an AEW or an AWACS?

I believe AEW&C and AWACS are the same basic systems. AWACS was the name given to the USAFs AEW&C competition, which resulted in the E-3 Sentry. Because of the popularity of that competition, and because AWACS is easier to pronounce and write than AEW&C, AWACS has become the more popular term. AEW, however, are different from AWACS/AEW&Cs, since they are simply airborne radars and nothing else. The US Navy's E-2 Hawkeye and Pakistan's P-2 Orions, for example, is AEWS but not an AWACS.

Anyway, if that was your question, then the KJ-200 is an AWACS, complete with the "Control" part. It will features a disc-radome rather than the spinal-bar on our Saab 2000 ERIEYE AWACs. We will, if I'm not mistaken, transferring some basdic production technology as well, which is the best part of this deal.

 

[Peregrine]

will KJ-200 be able to guide missiles of JF-17?

 

[hataf]

will KJ-200 be able to guide missiles of JF-17?

its been discussed by NABIL05


all JFT have inter data link and also with AEW&C

so one JFT can guide the missile through other JFT and also through AEW&C. . . .

 

[mjnaushad]

will KJ-200 be able to guide missiles of JF-17?

Pakistan Aeronautical Complex....

Standard Armament Interface Unit
Remote Interface Box
BVR Datalink
V / UHF Communication System (Qty 02)
Comm Datalink

 

[skybolt]

Pakistan to get Chinese AEW&C aircraft ZDK-03 later this year

Pakistan has received its second Erieye radar-equipped Saab 2000, and will also accept its first Shaanxi ZDK-03 airborne early warning and control system aircraft before year-end.

Islamabad has four ZDK-03s on order, with deliveries due to start later this year, say air force sources. The type is a new variant of the Shaanxi Y8 AEW&C aircraft designed specifically for Pakistan.

The Chinese aircraft is powered by four turboprop engines and has a greater range than offered by the Saab Microwave Systems Erieye, the sources say.

The air force recently received its second Saab 2000 surveillance aircraft, and anticipates that it will receive its remaining two in the second and third quarters of this year.

Islamabad signed a mid-2006 contract for Erieye radar-equipped Saab 2000s

Pakistan’s move to source AEW&C aircraft from both China and the West is indicative of its strategy to refrain from being overly reliant on any one ally. The USA imposed military sanctions against Pakistan from 1990 to 2005 in response to its testing nuclear weapons.

The air force’s current fleet includes Lockheed Martin F-16s, Dassault Mirage III and 5 fighters, Chengdu F-7s and JF-17s; a new type developed jointly by China and Pakistan.

In terms of military transports, Pakistan flies Lockheed C-130s, but also operates Ilyushin Il-78 tankers.

Pakistan to get Chinese AEW&C aircraft this year

 

[skybolt]

ZDK-03 is an export AWACS system being developed for the Pakistani Air Force. This project was initiated in the early 2000. A prototype (serial # T0518/Project 021) based on Y-8 Category II Platform was first discovered at CFTE in early 2006. Unlike KJ-200, this variant carries a tranditional rotodome above its fuselage, with a mechanically rotating antenna inside. Therefore the Y-8 AWACS was speculated to be developed for the export market only as it appears less advanced than KJ-200 which features a fixed AESA radar. The AEW radar may be the product of the 38th Institute/CETC, but no details are available. The aircraft also features a solid nose and tail as well as two small vertial tail stablizers. The Y-8 AWACS protoype was promoted to Pakistani AF in 2006. After some negotiations a much improved design has been under development based on PAF's specifications. The variant is now dubbed ZDK-03 and is based on the new Y-8 Category III Platform featuring 6-blade propellers. It was reported in early 2009 that a total of 4 has been ordered by PAF in a $278m deal, with the first one to be delivered by the end of 2010. ZDK-03 is expected to serve as an airborne command & control center for the JF-17 fighter fleet.

 

[skybolt]

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[TaimiKhan]

Is the KJ200 an AEW&C or AWAC aircraft?

AEW&C is mostly those platforms which do have the Command factor, but its limited due to the size.

See, all the airborne warning platforms whose size is big are called AWACS, as they have full fledged Command infrastructure and they can control and command from within the platform.

While AEW&C are mostly the smaller platforms, who have limited Command functions due to availability of space on the platform, thus they can't call all the shots and not able to command fully the battle space given, here the GCS come into picture who then call the shots which are not available on the AEW&C.

So the basic difference between the AWACS & AEW&C is the Command factor.

 

[muse]

So what's the thinking? WHY did PAF not opt for larger aircraft and a full fledged command function? What does it say about what their view of this command function as opposed to GC is or what their view of the capabilities they will have to face? Can you help us understand the thinking the doctrine behind this a little better?

 

[TaimiKhan]

So what's the thinking? WHY did PAF not opt for larger aircraft and a full fledged command function? What does it say about what their view of this command function as opposed to GC is or what their view of the capabilities they will have to face? Can you help us understand the thinking the doctrine behind this a little better?

Most probably due to availability of platforms as well as resources.

AWAC needs a big platform, what are the options available ??

And even if we did got the platform, it would be needing good amount of money, refitting of the stuff would also be expensive. Operational and maintenance costs would also go high.

So by looking at the availability of funds and platforms, it seems PAF made the decision and went for a smaller platform.

 

[SQ8]

AEW&C is mostly those platforms which do have the Command factor, but its limited due to the size.

See, all the airborne warning platforms whose size is big are called AWACS, as they have full fledged Command infrastructure and they can control and command from within the platform.

While AEW&C are mostly the smaller platforms, who have limited Command functions due to availability of space on the platform, thus they can't call all the shots and not able to command fully the battle space given, here the GCS come into picture who then call the shots which are not available on the AEW&C.

So the basic difference between the AWACS & AEW&C is the Command factor.

Or more appropriately , the scale of the command factor.. The E-3 was designed to control large swaths of airspace without any GCI present, smaller platforms like the SAAB AEW&C can manage 20 or so aircraft but to handle a larger volume will have to refer to a dedicated command and control setup.

 

[araz]

i hope this will bring the WS-13 powered JFT prototype to public as well.

also hope to see flying dispalys.

regards!

it is a bit too early. Expect to see that in period post 2013. You must remember that WS13 needs to mature andthis will take time. induction so early wit ha subsequent problem will be really demoralizing and bad for the publicity of the firm and the plane.
Araz