Big_bud
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Good discussion.
You are right some people don't get it that JF-17 still uses Martin Baker Ejection Seats. The British MoD still can sanction Pakistan's JF-17. This was not my point. My point was that JF-17 could have a huge export potential if Pakistan removes Russian baggage from JF-17.
I wanted to see how people think of the West. Pakistan received more than $35 billion from the U.S. since 9/11. Reference https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41856.pdf
People don't understand sanction when they talk about EU and US sanctions. CAATSA has different purpose not just sanction willy-nilly. Turkey was sanctioned for buying arms from Russia because Turkey is a NATO member. India will be sanctioned for buying S-400 from Russia.
Germany, Italy, France and UK supply arms to all Southeast Asian countries. Pakistan is a democratic country. Pakistan Army is not going to walk into Prime Minister's office and take power. Pakistan is in a complex geopolitical tug of war. Its highly unlikely that Pakistan will be sanctioned for buy Mi-35 helicopter and RD-93MA engine for Russia.
Not to mention half of this payment was for services rendered by Pakistan to NATO forces. It was a payment against services received, not a favour. 2ndly, as already pointed out. The burden to our economy for being a US ally was 120 Billion $, the human loss is not calculatable.
No, there can be no "sanctions" on JF17. At most what they can do is stop supplying a life saving equipment for?? Unknown pettiness?? There are alternatives to that as well. West is an unreliable partner, Pakistan has moved ahead from transactional behaviour of west. You get your soldiers and people killed for us, we will give you F16s, time for that is long gone. PS Pakistan is not in a geopolitical war, its the other way around. Some countries act as alliance of goons who think they have the right to push others around.
Also, JF is designed to be marketed at developing countries who cannot afford western products. If it gets a western engine, its market and demand would greatly reduce because then it can be easily sanctioned. Even post sales, the buyer can have huge problems to obtain spares. This is the exact problem with west, they decide your worth. They decide what sort of defence you can have or not have? Despite having directly or politically invaded dozens of countries, west has a habit of blaming others as having a problem. Maybe they don't want to sell you good stuff because later they might want to invade you? Lol... that's a dilemma!
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