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They are referring to B3...Wait, further flights? What do you mean by that, the J-35 has already flown?
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They are referring to B3...Wait, further flights? What do you mean by that, the J-35 has already flown?
They are referring to B3...
The apparent lack of HMD/S and HOBS AAM is a bummer though, total reliance on BVR as Indians will have unequivocal advantage at WVR via their HMD/S & HOBS capabilities.I saw a few guys claiming block 3 having a different design and hardpoints. That is not all the case.
JF-17 Block 3 is IDENTICAL to block 2 in almost all aspects externally.
The major differences include;
1) Revamped software to support and handle a variety of missions (ie. SEAD/DEAD)
2) New weapons such as PL-15, RAAD will be the highlights for block 3.
3) Improved engine performance. Turbines have been reworked to produce added thrust.
4) AESA radar (cannot disclose which one)
5) Turkish EW suite
6) Strengthened abdomen and wing roots to carry heavy weapons such as RAAD and PL-15s.
7) Recc pods will be fully operational.
8) Upgraded Link capability similar to F-16s. All JF-17s are able to communicate with SAAB's securely. Each JF-17 pilot would know what other JF-17 can see and what he is up to in a given mission. What are his fuel levels, what is the status of his weapons. It's a fully integrated system just like F-16's link 16 which Wg Cmdr Nouman Ali Khan leveraged to execute a mission beautifully.
In other words, IAF will be faced Block 52 category weapons systems that too in mass numbers in just 5 years from now. Production of Block 2 is slowing down and Block 3 will be produced from February 2020 at PAC.
The first two Block 3's are currently undergoing FCFs (functional check flights) and are expected to join PAF in February 2020.
On the export side, 08 Block 2's are to be delivered to Nigeria in 2020. Qatar and Malaysia are eyeing for Block 3.
In a nutshell, JF-17 program has been a blessing for Pakistan Air Force. Its only a matter of time when we will have access to EU hardware. The Block 4 is already on the charts and it will be nothing short of a Rafale as far as current plans are concerned.
I would be shitting my pants if I was IAF.
@waz @Windjammer @The Eagle @Trailer23 @Imran Khan
I thought HMD and HOBS were two things along with an AESA radar that would be the hallmark of Block-3 considering what we will be up against, how come the very basic requirement that led to block 3 are now being let go? This makes no sense at all.The apparent lack of HMD/S and HOBS AAM is a bummer though, total reliance on BVR as Indians will have unequivocal advantage at WVR via their HMD/S & HOBS capabilities.
It's not the aircraft but the HOBS integrated missile like the aim9x. I don't know which version of the PL9 China has that is the same category as the aim9x but once it's available, integrating it within the JF17 would be a nonissue.I thought HMD and HOBS were two things along with an AESA radar that would be the hallmark of Block-3 considering what we will be up against, how come the very basic requirement that led to block 3 are now being let go? This makes no sense at all.
Wasn’t there a Chinese solution in works?The apparent lack of HMD/S and HOBS AAM is a bummer though, total reliance on BVR as Indians will have unequivocal advantage at WVR via their HMD/S & HOBS capabilities.
It's not the aircraft but the HOBS integrated missile like the aim9x. I don't know which version of the PL9 China has that is the same category as the aim9x but once it's available, integrating it within the JF17 would be a nonissue.
@airomerix your thoughts good sir?
I think ground clearance was a problem for RA'AD integeration in Block I and IIs. Is it solved then?2) New weapons such as PL-15, RAAD will be the highlights for block 3.
Will it be able to carry 4 PL 15s?Strengthened abdomen and wing roots to carry heavy weapons such as RAAD and PL-15s.
But Block 4 will literally take much years then just like what happened with Block 3 when India will be planning for a 5th gen fighter. Block 4s will probably gonna be launched when Rafales will be fully integerated and operational in thier airforceThe Block 4 is already on the charts and it will be nothing short of a Rafale as far as current plans are concerned.
Is PL 10 available for Pakistan @LKJ86?It's not the aircraft but the HOBS integrated missile like the aim9x. I don't know which version of the PL9 China has that is the same category as the aim9x but once it's available, integrating it within the JF17 would be a nonissue.
Wont be surprised if it is KLJ 7AAESA radar (cannot disclose which one)
I saw a few guys claiming block 3 having a different design and hardpoints. That is not all the case.
JF-17 Block 3 is IDENTICAL to block 2 in almost all aspects externally.
The major differences include;
1) Revamped software to support and handle a variety of missions (ie. SEAD/DEAD)
2) New weapons such as PL-15, RAAD will be the highlights for block 3.
3) Improved engine performance. Turbines have been reworked to produce added thrust.
4) AESA radar (cannot disclose which one)
5) Turkish EW suite
6) Strengthened abdomen and wing roots to carry heavy weapons such as RAAD and PL-15s.
7) Recc pods will be fully operational.
8) Upgraded Link capability similar to F-16s. All JF-17s are able to communicate with SAAB's securely. Each JF-17 pilot would know what other JF-17 can see and what he is up to in a given mission. What are his fuel levels, what is the status of his weapons. It's a fully integrated system just like F-16's link 16 which Wg Cmdr Nouman Ali Khan leveraged to execute a mission beautifully.
In other words, IAF will be faced Block 52 category weapons systems that too in mass numbers in just 5 years from now. Production of Block 2 is slowing down and Block 3 will be produced from February 2020 at PAC.
The first two Block 3's are currently undergoing FCFs (functional check flights) and are expected to join PAF in February 2020.
On the export side, 08 Block 2's are to be delivered to Nigeria in 2020. Qatar and Malaysia are eyeing for Block 3.
In a nutshell, JF-17 program has been a blessing for Pakistan Air Force. Its only a matter of time when we will have access to EU hardware. The Block 4 is already on the charts and it will be nothing short of a Rafale as far as current plans are concerned.
I would be shitting my pants if I was IAF.
@waz @Windjammer @The Eagle @Trailer23 @Imran Khan
It's not the aircraft but the HOBS integrated missile like the aim9x. I don't know which version of the PL9 China has that is the same category as the aim9x but once it's available, integrating it within the JF17 would be a nonissue.
@airomerix your thoughts good sir?
you've mistaken us for indiots.I think we are just wasting our time by dreaming, corruption is at peak so be ready for another Junk Fighter Block 3 lol
Don’t get emotional so soon, this feature can come up as an upgrade eventually not just for Block 3 but i guess the earlier blocks as well as their upgrade is mostly on integration and software upgrade.The apparent lack of HMD/S and HOBS AAM is a bummer though, total reliance on BVR as Indians will have unequivocal advantage at WVR via their HMD/S & HOBS capabilities.
Ignore...you've mistaken us for indiots.
Are we allowed to integrate US origin AAMs to thunders ?Next Gen AAM is into the game here and surely going to be the part of Block-III. Expecting a lot.
Are we allowed to integrate US origin AAMs to thunders ?
Because if we can, then we can use JHCMS with AIM-9X provided that we are sold this system