JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[khanasifm]

Looks like old pic with Chinese and Pakistani tech working in the initial day guessing

 

[Dazzler]

No single seat blk 3 is in production as of now.

 

[messiach]

Serial production build - third stage of assembly.
All SSt designs are like the SSt and all the DSt would be like the DSt.

Actually emphasis was on: SP3?

 

[Dazzler]

Serial production build - third stage of assembly.
All SSt designs are like the SSt and all the DSt would be like the DSt.

 

[Dreamer.]

Some people here predicted from beginning that many would be disappointed. I think what's important is what the new block does add to the capability rather than what it doesn't.

No mig-29 style extension of spine then? @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[Philip the Arab]

JF-17 Block 3 definitely needs at least 4 BVRAAM missiles if not more. 4 planes networked with AWACS could in theory be a unstoppable A2A group.

 

[messiach]

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[Chak Bamu]

JF-17 Block 3 definitely needs at least 4 BVRAAM missiles if not more. 4 planes networked with AWACS could in theory be a unstoppable A2A group.

The prospective radar for Block-III is capable of attacking 4 targets with BVR missiles. That leads me to believe that Block-III is capable of carrying 4 BVR missiles. Otherwise, there is no need to fit this radar onto JF-17 Block-III aircraft.

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I think he is not pleased with DSt (Dual Seat) & SSt (Single Seat) being similar to previous blocks.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The prospective radar for Block-III is capable of attacking 4 targets with BVR missiles. That leads me to believe that Block-III is capable of carrying 4 BVR missiles. Otherwise, there is no need to fit this radar onto JF-17 Block-III aircraft.


I think he is not pleased with DSt (Dual Seat) & SSt (Single Seat) being similar to previous blocks.

For some reason, the PAF's JF-17s have yet to employ dual ejector racks. So, if they're indeed strengthening the wing-mounted hardpoints, we shouldn't stop at just 4 BVRAAM, it should be 6 at least (ideally 8).

Some people here predicted from beginning that many would be disappointed. I think what's important is what the new block does add to the capability rather than what it doesn't.

No mig-29 style extension of spine then? @Bilal Khan (Quwa)

*sigh*

 

[Chak Bamu]

For some reason, the PAF's JF-17s have yet to employ dual ejector racks. So, if they're indeed strengthening the wing-mounted hardpoints, we shouldn't stop at just 4 BVRAAM, it should be 6 at least (ideally 8).

Beyond 4 BVR missiles, law of diminishing returns would kick in. JF-17 does not have the stamina for a prolonged fight. It is more of a shoot-and-scoot type, being a light weight aircraft. Its strength lies in high sortie rate.

 

[messiach]

I cant stop laughing.

For some reason, the PAF's JF-17s have yet to employ dual ejector racks. So, if they're indeed strengthening the wing-mounted hardpoints, we shouldn't stop at just 4 BVRAAM, it should be 6 at least (ideally 8).


*sigh*

 

[Dazzler]

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Can you explain the following in simple words for aeronautical engineering novices like me? It will be huge service to humanity. Thanks

Serial production build - third stage of assembly. All SSt designs are like the SSt and all the DSt would be like the DSt.

I cant stop laughing.

As per a genuine source at AMF, the block 3 will carry six IF needed. Four on DER and one each on two hardpoints.

Even block 2 and B can carry 4 but they are rarely carried.

 

[messiach]

Dont expect a significant change in 'shape' but marked improvement in aerodynamics from block 2. Quantum. @Dazzler

I think he is not pleased with DSt (Dual Seat) & SSt (Single Seat) being similar to previous blocks.

DER - definitely yes. Wingtip mounted - yes. They have all been prospectively examined.

As per a genuine source at AMF, the block 3 will carry six IF needed. Four on DER and one each on two hardpoints.
Even block 2 and B can carry 4 but they are rarely carried.

 

[Dazzler]

Dont expect a significant change in 'shape' but marked improvement in aerodynamics from block 2. Quantum. @Dazzler

Three blk 3s are being assembled at AMF, with one about to undergo testing. Surprisingly, all three are dual seats, and sport minor visible changes from B versions. Changes include widened intakes, and a wide angle holographic HUD.

The prospective radar for Block-III is capable of attacking 4 targets with BVR missiles. That leads me to believe that Block-III is capable of carrying 4 BVR missiles. Otherwise, there is no need to fit this radar onto JF-17 Block-III aircraft.

The revised version of KLJ-7As support six simultaneous air to air engagements, unlike four in the LKF-601E.

 

[Ultima Thule]

For some reason, the PAF's JF-17s have yet to employ dual ejector racks. So, if they're indeed strengthening the wing-mounted hardpoints, we shouldn't stop at just 4 BVRAAM, it should be 6 at least (ideally 8).

sir JF-17 inspired by F-16 which able carry 6 AAM, but remember sir as F-16 or light weight fighter jet project same as our JF-17, i think early version of F-16 till ( Block-15) had have carry 4 AAM same as our JF-17 as for dual racks they also increases a drag hence overall performance parameter of JF-17 and 8 AAM are suited for Heavy air superiority jets like F-15/Su-27 @Bilal Khan (Quwa)