Jesuit center backs Bangladesh migrants for Indian citizenship

[Jade]

I did not mixed up hindu and criminals... they are separate segments... majority of the Bangladesh's big don and criminal are now in India....n hindus get a free hand while they flee to india... even some radical hindu group support them... My family is personally aware of this.... One of my aunt married to a hindu man even though during marriage he said he converted to islam... but after 6 years of marriage he killed my phupi along with her daughter and fled to india as he continuously used to ask money and my phupi refused.... So, this is not difficult for a hindu to go to india... even they get political shelter from different political parties...

This is a recent article from Indian press itself...confirming this fact...So the bottom line is that majority of the illegal migrants are hindus and criminals those who fled to india frequently... n indian elites and different political parties support them... If really there are illegal migrants with a number like 20 or 40 million provide proof with facts... n I personally think they will not be difficult to identifies as some people has claimed 37% of the slum dweller in delhi are illegal Bangladeshi ....

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KOLKATA: The Matuas - a subaltern religious sect, comprising mainly lower caste, poor Hindu refugees from East Pakistan/ Bangladesh - achieved the near impossible by getting top CPM and Trinamool Congress leaders on the same stage at Esplanade on Tuesday, along with those of the Congress, the BJP and the Forward Bloc.

It's proof that the Matuas are a force no party in Bengal can ignore. The community, a 5-lakh-strong vote base, first made its presence felt in the Bongaon assembly bypolls in 2006 when it rose against the CPM and handed the ruling party a crushing defeat.

This is why CPM leaders Gautam Deb and Kanti Biswas could not refuse the Matua Mahasangh invite for a mega rally in the city to place their chief demand - citizenship rights to Bangladeshi refugees who moved to India after 1971. There were no slogans or political banners. The Matuas announced their might with conch shells and drums and "horibol" on their lips.

While the mega rally choked the heart of the city, chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee entertained a Matua delegation at Writers' and assured he would take up their demands with the Centre.

On the dais, Pradesh Congress chief Manas Bhuniya promised to speak to Congress president Sonia Gandhi, PM Manmohan Singh and home minister P Chidambaram by the second week of January.

Former BJP state chief Tathagata Roy repeatedly pointed out his party had all along been sympathetic to Hindu refugees fleeing Bangladesh even after May 25, 1971. Trinamool MP Mukul Roy, the Union MoS for shipping, also showed along with party MP Gobinda Naskar and MLA Jyotipriya Mullick (both representatives of Matua-dominated areas).

Roy and Deb shared the dais for a few minutes before the Trinamool leader got a call on his mobile and climbed down. He spent the rest of the afternoon at a nearby tea stall.

Deb congratulated the Matua organizers for being able to rally all mainstream parties. "It makes me happy to see Congress, CPM, Trinamool and BJP leaders on stage. You have a valid point. Let all MPs from Bengal set aside their political differences and take up with Delhi the plight of the refugees.

When it comes to the interest of state, we should not stick to narrow politics. My department did not hesitate to hand over 72 acres of land in Haldia to Kolkata Port Trust although Trinamool's Mukul Roy is the minister of state for shipping," the Bengal housing minister said.


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I am not going to deny that there is no problem on India side. There are political parties that play politics with this issue. My point is that the illegal migration should stop and be reversed. Both BD and India have a serious stake in this process

 

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these BD migrants are causing problems for India GOI should take strong steps to stop these illegal migrants. I think still some Bangladeshi belives that India is better place to live than BD to India

That is your personal view... I asked to provide proof with facts.. not any random claim... If really it is such a big issue and the number would have reached 20 to 40 million indian government would have addressed it long ago along with it the issue would be head line in every international news media...

But we see ranting only in some indian media by some right winger...only to attract some vote and to create fear mongering.... In no indian bangladeshi bilateral talk this issue has come up even during the time of BJP which propagate most of this propaganda... which clearly states it is never a issue instead a right wing propaganda to keep the number of muslim low officially... and hence their power... If officially it is stated number of muslim is in between 20 to 25% then power structure of india will be changed.... and muslims of india will gain unprecedented power or will demand for it...

 

[Jade]

That is your personal view... I asked to provide proof with facts.. not any random claim... If really it is such a big issue and the number would have reached 20 to 40 million indian government would have addressed it long ago along with it the issue would be head line in every international news media...

But we see ranting only in some indian media by some right winger...only to attract some vote and to create fear mongering.... In no indian bangladeshi bilateral talk this issue has come up even during the time of BJP which propagate most of this propaganda... which clearly states it is never a issue instead a right wing propaganda to keep the number of muslim low officially... and hence their power... If officially it is stated number of muslim is in between 20 to 25% then power structure of india will be changed.... and muslims of india will gain unprecedented power or will demand for it...

Your interpretation is wrong. Even if the population of Muslims in India is 20%, the fact is reflected in the voting patterns and hence the Parliament. So there is no question of suppression of Muslim voice in India.

This is like what you vote that you get

 

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Jesuit center backs Bangladesh migrants for Indian citizenship

Jesuit center backs Bangladesh migrants| Cathnews India

Published Date: December 29, 2010

Tags: Bangladesh migrants, Jesuit-managed Udayani, migrant workers, Social Action Forum
Jesuit center backs Bangladesh migrants thumbnail Dalit members of the Matua community during a demonstration on Dec. 28

A Church-based social center is backing the claims of some 40 million ‘illegal immigrants’ from Bangladesh for Indian citizenship.

Jesuit-managed Udayani (awakening) Social Action Forum has supported the members of dalit (former untouchables) Matua community, spread in 13 states of the country.

Over 200,000 Matua members demonstrated in Kolkata, eastern India, Dec. 28, claiming citizenship for all the refugees in the country.

Father Irudaya Jothi, who directs the Jesuit forum, said their support to the causes of dalit, tribal, women, children and minority groups “is part of our Jesuit option for the poor.”

The Jesuit priest told ucanews.com that the Matua community in West Bengal state has realized their collective power and the need to get empowered through education.

The demand for citizenship is “fruit of their empowerment, and we are with them in their cry for justice,” he added.

He said that his center supports the community’s cultural revival and recognizes their identity.

He said the Communist Party of India (Marxist) that heads the ruling coalition in the state does not resent the presence of refugees from Bangladesh.

However, the pro Pro-Hindu Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP, Indian people’s party) considers them a potential threat, because of their association with Muslims, Father Jothi explained.

Nityananda Haldar, a member of the Central Committee of All India Matua Mahasangh (confederation), warned his community would storm the state assembly house and if need be even the parliament house in New Delhi, “if our claims” are not accepted.

The Matua community was formed by Guru Chand Thakur in 1880 in the undivided Bengal.

Source: ucanews.com

Indians alaways claimed of 20 million Bangladeshi immigrants in India. My question is, 2000, 20 million or 40 million, what kind of Bangladeshis they are. Are they Muslims who have a tendency to migrate to India? By the statements from the Jesuits, it seems these groups are non-Muslims who want to live in India for religious reason.

Although BD people do not want to disown their Hindu minorities, but, there is no way that BD can dissuade these people from going to a country of their choice.

But, since these people are Hindus, therefore, there is no question of Islamaization of India. However, no one can guarantee the status of India's NE where many Muslims live from time immemorial.

 

[Jade]

Although BD people do not want to disown their Hindu minorities, but, there is no way that BD can dissuade these people from going to a country of their choice.

But, since these people are Hindus, therefore, there is no question of Islamaization of India. However, no one can guarantee the status of India's NE where many Muslims live from time immemorial.

Your logic won't work. It is the responsibility of BD to dissuade its citizens, be it minorities or majorities, from illegally entering another country by providing security and live hood. BD will be responsible for any illegal activity done by any of its citizens any where in the world.

Although, I doubt your "only Hindu migrants" theory, if it real, it is much more of a serious issue. Then a new set of questions would arise such as why only Hindus are migrating? Are Hindus not given equal treatment as other citizens? Are Hindus persecuted or Is ethnic cleansing happening in BD etc... etc...

What do you means by "no one can guarantee the status of India's NE". NE is a part of India and would remain so