Japanese Companies See Pakistan Having Better Prospects Than India

[AndrewJin]

It is hardly surprising because of Pakistan strategic position as part of the "LAND and MARITIME SILK ROAD" initiative from China to Pakistan through Gwadar, a warm-water, deep-sea port situated on the Arabian Sea now managed by a Chinese firm.

India is excluded from China's grand initiatives of linking Eurasia.

 

[B+ Dracula]

India is excluded from China's grand initiatives of linking Eurasia.

You people literally have cut-off India from the rest of the Economic Activity happening in Central Asia....and India now of today is Geographically Isolated Peninsula ....Worldwide Investors and tycoons can go inside India but they wont able to export Products in all over the world.....thats the hard fact that cant be overlook so easily

 

[AndrewJin]

You people literally have cut-off India from the rest of the Economic Activity happening in Central Asia....and India now of today is Geographically Isolated Peninsula ....Worldwide Investors and tycoons can go inside India but they wont able to export Products in all over the world.....thats the hard fact that cant be overlook so easily

Let me give you an example of China's HSR project in Indonesia. Though it uses Chinese standard, this standard is compatible to world standards. In the future, Indonesians can use China's CRRC trains (biggest rolling stock manufacturer in the world), they can also connect this high-speed rail to their existing railways or use Alstom/Bombardier trains. However, Japan chose India to build their first high-speed rail in India, which means, Indians will have to stick to Japanese standard and Japanese products(Japanese are smart), which is a total closed standard. It means, India has excluded herself from the world. China won't create such closed standard, cause she is ambitious for Eurasia integration as opposed to monopolising in this region.

 

[Echo_419]

Let me give you an example of China's HSR project in Indonesia. Though it uses Chinese standard, this standard is compatible to world standards. In the future, Indonesians can use China's CRRC trains (biggest rolling stock manufacturer in the world), they can also connect this high-speed rail to their existing railways or use Alstom/Bombardier trains. However, Japan chose India to build their first high-speed rail in India, which means, Indians will have to stick to Japanese standard and Japanese products(Japanese are smart), which is a total closed standard. It means, India has excluded herself from the world. China won't create such closed standard, cause she is ambitious for Eurasia integration as opposed to monopolising in this region.

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[ThaniOruvan]

Let me give you an example of China's HSR project in Indonesia. Though it uses Chinese standard, this standard is compatible to world standards. In the future, Indonesians can use China's CRRC trains (biggest rolling stock manufacturer in the world), they can also connect this high-speed rail to their existing railways or use Alstom/Bombardier trains. However, Japan chose India to build their first high-speed rail in India, which means, Indians will have to stick to Japanese standard and Japanese products(Japanese are smart), which is a total closed standard. It means, India has excluded herself from the world. China won't create such closed standard, cause she is ambitious for Eurasia integration as opposed to monopolising in this region.

How funny you are. Your HSR was completely copied from Alstom, Siemens and Kawasaki (Japan) in the early days.
Then you people reverse-engineered it and now call it Chinese-world-class standards ?
You are able to get a contract for your HSR only in a weaker-than-china country like Indonesia.
If your HSR standards is really sky high as you are boasting here what are the other countries where Chinese HSR is preferred or is chosen for implementation ? Don't include countries where you are bidding.

 

[Pak_Sher]

I'm no economist but I am aware of the fact that at the end of the day Japan and China are competitors. And obviously China's gonna win every contract in Pakistan.

@Brahmaputra Mail @Nihonjin1051
Pakistan has strong economic relationship with both China and Japan. Many Chinese and Japanese Companes are doing business in Pakistan. Toyota, Honda, Mitsibishi, Subaru, Yamaha, Yokohama, Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, Hitachi, Komatsu etc. are some of the Japanese Companies doing profitable business in Pakistan since the early late 60s. Your notion that every contract goes to China is totally incorrect.

 

[Jamwal's]

Off course pak has 2% more prospect of business growth,as their is hardly any comparison between Japanese investment/Business in India and Pak,they have been investing in succesful JVs like Maruti since 80s,a Village Gurgaon is now a large Metro due to Maruti Suzuki.

Pak has more business space and areas in which Japan can invest.

 

[Force Awakens]

@AndrewJin @B+ Dracula
In the financial year 2014-15 India exported $5.38 billion worth of goods to Japan whereas Pakistan exported only $0.25 billion to Japan.Thus India exported over 21 times of Pakistan.

 

[AndrewJin]

How funny you are. Your HSR was completely copied from Alstom, Siemens and Kawasaki (Japan) in the early days.
Then you people reverse-engineered it and now call it Chinese-world-class standards ?
You are able to get a contract for your HSR only in a weaker-than-china country like Indonesia.
If your HSR standards is really sky high as you are boasting here what are the other countries where Chinese HSR is preferred or is chosen for implementation ? Don't include countries where you are bidding.

Sorry man, a frog in the well will never see the world. I feel pity for you.
A person from a country where deadly train accident happens weekly or monthly will never understand the severity of using a closed standard...
China is more willing to invest in Indonesia than a country with GDP per capita lower than Sub-Sahara Africa.

 

[B+ Dracula]

Let me give you an example of China's HSR project in Indonesia. Though it uses Chinese standard, this standard is compatible to world standards. In the future, Indonesians can use China's CRRC trains (biggest rolling stock manufacturer in the world), they can also connect this high-speed rail to their existing railways or use Alstom/Bombardier trains. However, Japan chose India to build their first high-speed rail in India, which means, Indians will have to stick to Japanese standard and Japanese products(Japanese are smart), which is a total closed standard. It means, India has excluded herself from the world. China won't create such closed standard, cause she is ambitious for Eurasia integration as opposed to monopolising in this region.

I would say Japanese are smart....they prefer to disposed off their Closed end Circuits in India..,, bcoz they know that Indians are not interested to taste Outside world....for them their BIG WELL is the world......leaving the Big well is hereditary Sinful for them

 

[ThaniOruvan]

Sorry man, a frog in the well will never see the world. I feel pity for you.
China is more willing to invest in Indonesia than a country with GDP per capita lower than Sub-Sahara Africa.

Answer my question if you really are an informative guy and you know things. Or accept you that don't know anything and a fool.
If you are illiterate I would like to inform you that China also bid for Mumbai-Ahmedabad HSR corridor, lost to the Japanese and got kicked out. Still China is interested to bid (beg) on many other HSR corridors coming up in India.

 

[Spectre]

Sorry man, a frog in the well will never see the world. I feel pity for you.
A person from a country where deadly train accident happens weekly or monthly will never understand the severity of using a closed standard...
China is more willing to invest in Indonesia than a country with GDP per capita lower than Sub-Sahara Africa.

You do realize that India has a higher GDP per capita than Pakistan?

 

[AndrewJin]

I would say Japanese are smart....they prefer to disposed off their Closed end Circuits in India..,, bcoz they know that Indians are not interested to taste Outside world....for them their BIG WELL is the world......leaving the Big well is hereditary Sinful for them

They are. I feel pity for Indians though. They thought they had won some big fortune.

Answer my question if you really are an informative guy and you know things. Or accept you that don't know anything and a fool.
If you are illiterate I would like to inform you that China also bid for Mumbai-Ahmedabad HSR corridor, lost to the Japanese and got kicked out.

I'm very happy we lost.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Pakistan just needs peace and quiet and we will prove all the doubters wrong (we already are by the grace of the Almighty!).

Welcome back sir, seeing you post after a long gap

 

[AndrewJin]

Who is giving a damn about what you think. Even your government will ditch you.
Do you know ? Your chinese friends have taken the poverb 'failures are the stepping stones to success' as a mantra and are bidding for many other HSR projects in India. I only respect and like forward thinking chinese unlike sympathy-secreting, bully-panicking chinese like you.

lol, sorry man, such happiness is universal in China‘s railway forum.
I don't think China will win any project in India though she is winning projects in USA.