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TOKYO -- Japan and the U.S. are considering increasing military cooperation with Australia by sharing submarine technology.

Australia currently owns six Collins-class diesel-electric submarines, based on an old design. Their capabilities are limited, according to Japanese and Australian officials. To bolster its future naval capabilities, the Australian government is looking to introduce a next-generation submarine starting in around 15 years and roughly double the size of its submarine fleet eventually.

Canberra is interested in Japanese technology. Japan's diesel-electric submarines are respected, in particular because of the quietness of the screw and engine -- crucial requirements for military submarines. For weapons systems, such as torpedoes and cruise missiles, Australia has turned to the U.S.

Unprecedented

Japan and Australia agreed to jointly develop military equipment, including submarines, at a Nov. 12 summit between Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his counterpart, Tony Abbott.
"The hurdle for cooperating with another country in anything related to submarines is high," Japanese officials noted. "It is on a different level to cooperation on fighter jets and warships."
Submarines are the most closely guarded military secrets among countries that own them. Their ability to move undetected can sway military balance. Even between Japan and the U.S., only a fraction of the information collected by submarines is shared. The two countries do not share any information on their submarines' current locations or capabilities.

Inside the Japanese Self-Defense Forces, "a submarine's location and route are not revealed to even the crew's families and their colleagues," according to a high-ranking officer.

Considering the high-level of secrecy surrounding submarines, providing technologies implies Japan and the U.S. place full trust in Australia, and are ready to become its closest allies. This extraordinary development has come about because of China's efforts to bolster its submarine fleet.

Chinese advances

China has 56 submarines, three times more than Japan, including five nuclear subs, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

A Chinese nuclear submarine was spotted in the Indian Ocean for the first time last December. A conventional Chinese sub was also sighted there in September.
This was a game changer for Japan, the U.S. and Australia. It was a given that Chinese submarines were lurking in the East and South China seas, but now, they have to consider their presence in the Indian Ocean, a crucial shipping lane.


The possibility of even a single Chinese submarine there means more subs and antisubmarine surveillance aircraft have to accompany military vessels passing through the waters, according to Japanese and U.S. defense officials.

Some analyses suggest the Chinese military will put into service its first submarine capable of carrying ballistic missiles with a range of more than 7,500km as soon as the end of the year. This will give China an ability to launch a nuclear attack on the U.S. mainland from under the sea. Such capability could threaten the U.S. "nuclear umbrella" and impact on national security issues in Japan and Australia as well.

In response, the U.S. decided in February to station one more Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine at its naval base in Guam. The total number of the attack subs based there will stand at four. But budgetary issues limit how much the U.S. Navy can do in the Asia-Pacific region. It is also unfeasible for Japanese submarines to frequently monitor the Indian Ocean on behalf of the U.S.

Sharing

Australia, which directly faces the Indian Ocean, is also located conveniently for monitoring the South China Sea. With enhanced submarine capabilities, Australia will be able to keep a close eye on those waters.

"Following technical cooperation in submarines, Japan, the U.S. and Australia will likely start working together in the operational arena," said Satoshi Morimoto, who served as defense minister under Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.

"Australia will be in charge of the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea," he added. "Japan will mainly handle the East China Sea. With the U.S. participating in and leading trilateral cooperation, it will be possible to effectively respond to movements of Chinese submarines."
It is unlikely the three countries are talking about such a deep level of cooperation at this stage. Nevertheless, it is a logical next step if the joint development of submarines goes ahead.

"This is serious," a Japanese government official in charge of national security said. "It lays all the cards on the table and ties the fate of our security situations as a group."

Asia tensions:Japan, US move toward joint submarine development with Australia- Nikkei Asian Review
 
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"Following technical cooperation in submarines, Japan, the U.S. and Australia will likely start working together in the operational arena," said Satoshi Morimoto, who served as defense minister under Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda.

Good to see the growing cooperation between Japan and our comprehensive strategic partners, the Australians and the Americans. I look forward for greater all-inclusive times: military, economic, political.
 
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Chinese advances
China is not advancing.People`s Republic of China is doing what is neccessary to guard and ensure proper control over their own territorial waters .It has neither intention nor desire to invade other countries,to interfere in internal affairs of other countries as certain exceptional nation.China knows very well(unlike again certain exceptional nation) with join projects,investments,threating other countries with respect can achive much more and long lasting positive results.

Speechless...:o:
Indeed.Above article is fine example of mentality of so-called international community.They are stuck in mentallity of 19th century-we rule the world.
 
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Indeed.Above article is fine example of mentality of so-called international community.They are stuck in mentallity of 19th century-we rule the world.

By that you refer to the mentality of the 'old' Great Powers ergo, Britain, France, Prussia, Austria-Hungary ?

Btw, its good to see a Bulgarian in the discussion forum. I've had good acquaintances from Bulgaria. :)
 
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By that you refer to the mentality of the 'old' Great Powers ergo, Britain, France, Prussia, Austria-Hungary ?
Mentality of western powers being old or new is always the same-it never changes.Such mentality(we give orders,you-obey) is reason no international organization(when West have majority voting rights or major influence) is working properly,reason for total failure of this year G20 meeting,reason basically EU currently slowly dying away.
And on topic-total waste of time,recources and money.Such waste not gonna improve even slighty overal economic situation.Well MIC gonna be richer of course.From where i`m sitting Japan is wasting its time in pointless,useless and totally unneeded moves just to stick it to China.It seems Japan politicians cant or do not want to realise a simple reality-working together with China and South Korea is most efficient way for improving Japan economy.
 
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And on topic-total waste of time,recources and money.Such waste not gonna improve even slighty overal economic situation.Well MIC gonna be richer of course.From where i`m sitting Japan is wasting its time in pointless,useless and totally unneeded moves just to stick it to China.It seems Japan politicians cant or do not want to realise a simple reality-working together with China and South Korea is most efficient way for improving Japan economy.

I agree with some of your points, however, despite the lack of western media news, let it not be denied that there is , indeed, a substantial amount of Intergovernmental cooperation between Tokyo and Beijing. Japan has divergent interests with China and the United States (+ West) that entails its foreign policy to reflect this dualist role.

I would compare it to the role of Bulgaria is in. Bulgaria, historically, has been part of the Russian Orbit and being a fellow Slavic state that has substantial Orthodox culture establishes it in the same cultural orbit with Russia and the Orthodox Sphere. However, at the same time, Sophia is integrated to the West via the European Union. Thus it entails and requires Sophia to maintain a pragmatic policy that reflects the necessary dualist dynamism. This becomes ever more clear in light of the recent political differences in what's happening in the Ukraine.
 
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