Japan Economy Forum

[rubyjackass]

Didn't know Japan had rivers that cause major floods. I would appreciate more information on Japan's rivers.

 

[Aepsilons]

what does Japan have that China doesn't and they want it so badly so they spend so much money ? :O

what does Japan have that China doesn't and they want it so badly so they spend so much money ? :O

Chinese that come to Japan visit the temples, castles, historical sites. They also are fond of the resorts in the North, specially in Hokkaido. Chinese come to Japan because of the quiet , the relax atmosphere , and the similarity of our societies. Plus, i think Japanese people are very welcoming of Chinese, and we are pleasant. Chinese always say their experiences in Japan is exceptional.

That is why they keep on coming back.

 

[Yizhi]

i still remember this photo from APEC last year. it basically sums up everything...

 

[definitelynotIndian]

Chinese that come to Japan visit the temples, castles, historical sites. They also are fond of the resorts in the North, specially in Hokkaido. Chinese come to Japan because of the quiet , the relax atmosphere , and the similarity of our societies. Plus, i think Japanese people are very welcoming of Chinese, and we are pleasant. Chinese always say their experiences in Japan is exceptional.

That is why they keep on coming back.

but why are they spending much more money compared to other tourists?

 

[Aepsilons]

but why are they spending much more money compared to other tourists?

Because a lot of the neo-rich go to Japan. There are lots of rich Chinese, and may of them are buying property in Japan as well. They can afford multi-million dollar condos in Tokyo, Kobe, Kyot et al.

 

[terranMarine]

Because a lot of the neo-rich go to Japan. There are lots of rich Chinese, and may of them are buying property in Japan as well. They can afford multi-million dollar condos in Tokyo, Kobe, Kyot et al.

holy cow

 

[terranMarine]

i still remember this photo from APEC last year. it basically sums up everything...

that was sure funny, awkward photo isn't it

 

[Aepsilons]

holy cow

Come on man. You should know that !

China Now Has More Millionaires Than Any Country but the U.S. - China Real Time Report - WSJ

 

[terranMarine]

Come on man. You should know that !

China Now Has More Millionaires Than Any Country but the U.S. - China Real Time Report - WSJ

sure i do, but didn't think they would spend millions buying properties in Japan. investment or planning to retire there?

 

[powastick]

I think East Asia share too many cultural affinity. Have similiar interest i presume.

 

[Aepsilons]

holy cow

Here's a good read, its from back in fall of '14.

Chinese Real Estate Buyers Turn to Tokyo - WSJ

 

[terranMarine]

Here's a good read, its from back in fall of '14.

Chinese Real Estate Buyers Turn to Tokyo - WSJ

i don't have subscription, can't read lol.

 

[Yizhi]

that was sure funny, awkward photo isn't it

talented directors should make a TV series of the Sino-Japanese relationship.
What a complicated love & hate story! it could be a award winning soap opera.

 

[Aepsilons]

sure i do, but didn't think they would spend millions buying properties in Japan. investment or planning to retire there?

They have too much money! Plus, what's a better way to invest your money than in property (good for equity). Japanese property value goes up , too, so its a good ROI. Let's say a chinese buyer buys a condo for let's say $1.5 million. He can redo it, make renovations, and in 1 year or so, he can sell it for $2-3 million. Or, he can just keep it , lol.
Seriously, there's a growing number of Chinese rich (super rich) who live in Japan. These guys have properties in Tokyo, Hong Kong, mainland and some in US.

i don't have subscription, can't read lol.

I'll post it for you, buddy:


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Beijing and Tokyo may have territorial spats in the East China Sea, but economic ties are trumping politics. Chinese investors’ appetite for Japanese real estate is rising as the yen continues to sink.

So far this year, Chinese individuals and companies have bought almost $230 million in real estate, more than triple the amount from last year, according to data from Jones Lang LaSalle .

British luxury property developer Grosvenor Ltd., owned by the family trust of the Duke of Westminster, is betting the influx of rich Chinese investors will help boost demand for its refurbished apartments in Tokyo’s upscale Roppongi area.

“One upside scenario for Japan is its relationship with China,” said Nicholas Loup, chief executive of Grosvenor Asia. “There are huge amounts of money flows between both countries. That’s currently below people’s radar screen.”

The Japanese currency has fallen 25% against the yuan over the past five years, outstripping its 15% fall against the U.S. dollar in the same period.

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Chinese tourist arrivals in Japan hit a record high this year, partly due to the weak yen, spurring investment in vacation homes. Japan has emerged as the most desired travel destination for Chinese this year, according to Travelzoo Asia Pacific. There’s also talk about making it easier for Chinese to apply for multiple-entry visas, which would further spur interest.

Rich Chinese are among the biggest foreign buyers in New York and Sydney. But other formerly popular investment destinations like Hong Kong and Singapore are becoming more costly due to taxes on nonresidents. In Hong Kong, Chinese buying is one reason real-estate prices have soared, causing social frictions with local residents.

Foreign buyers see value in Japan. On a square-foot basis, Tokyo property prices in U.S. dollar terms are about half of the levels of comparable areas in Hong Kong, and similar to prices in Beijing and Shanghai. Rental yield can be as high as 6%, compared with 3% in Hong Kong, and about 1% in Beijing.

A pickup in Japan’s real-estate market as its economy recovers, added to building for the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, is adding to the attraction.

While much of China’s investment is in retail and industrial projects, there has also been strong demand for private apartments. Since 2011, Chinese investors have bought some $84 million worth of apartments in Japan, Jones Lang LaSalle says.

Other foreign investors are piling in. Total overseas investment in Japanese real estate was 79% higher in 2013 compared with the previous year, according to commercial real-estate firm CBRE.

Some big Chinese companies also are part of the increased buying. In May, conglomerate Fosun Groupacquired Japanese property firm Idera Capital Management as a vehicle for future property investments. Fosun in August acquired a 25-story office building in Tokyo that formerly was Citibank’s Japan headquarters and has further plans to develop real estate.

That’s not to say political tensions aren’t there. In 2012, anti-Japanese protesters attacked Japanese businesses in China.

Some members of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s government have called for legislation to monitor foreign purchases of land in sensitive locations more closely. That’s seen as anti-Chinese.

In 2012, a Chinese consulate’s plan to buy land in port city Niigata for expansion was thwarted by local opposition.

Alex Yeung —director of Century 21 Culture Center Property in Hong Kong, which helps Chinese buyers enter Japan—said local sellers sometimes turn down offers when they learn the buyer is Chinese.

“Some owners, especially the older ones, don’t want to sell to the Chinese,” said Mr. Yeung.

Still, real estate officials are hopeful. Japanese property brokerages are expanding in China to capture the rising interest. Tokyu Livable and Nomura Real Estate Urban Net are both opening offices in Hong Kong this month. Tokyu Livable, which already has offices in Shanghai and Taiwan, is hiring more Chinese speakers.

Peter Peng, a Shanghai developer, is hoping to develop properties in Japan.

“I like Tokyo because its people are polite and homes are well kept,“ he said. Mr. Peng, who owns homes in San Francisco and Hong Kong, said he recently bought a $1.4 million three-bedroom apartment in Tokyo for investment.

An apartment in Tokyo is not just a trophy for rich Chinese. Those who are priced out of their home markets are looking at Tokyo for an opportunity to become a homeowner. Apartments in Tokyo’s suburbs start at $100,000, according to Mr. Yeung.

Each month, Mr. Yeung says clients from Hong Kong and China buy dozens of Japanese apartments or retail properties in Tokyo.



Chinese Real Estate Buyers Turn to Tokyo - WSJ

I think East Asia share too many cultural affinity. Have similiar interest i presume.

I agree. Chinese adopt very easily in Japan. And Japanese do , too, adopt very easily in Hong Kong and Mainland.

Very, easily.

 

[Aepsilons]

i still remember this photo from APEC last year. it basically sums up everything...

hahahaha!