Japan defense budget request highest ever as Abe boosts military

[Beidou2020]

Just wait till China increase the military budget to 3% of GDP. One branch of the PLA will have more money than the entire Japanese military budget. When it comes to spending on military, Japan is outclassed in every possible way.

No Asian country has the resources (money, talent, natural resources, technology) like China does in a massive military buildup.

Chinese missile force is one of the world's largest and most advanced in the world. China can deliver it from land, air, ship and submarine.

China has the technological and numerical advantage over Japan and the advantage will continue to grow in favour of China in the years to come.

China already has a massive nuclear arsenal and can choose to reverse the no-first-use nuclear policy anytime China wants.

Chinese economy is adding over $1 trillion GDP every single year and the fiscal revenue for the central government is growing fast too.

Japan trying to keep up with China in a military buildup is beyond a joke. Japan is fast becoming irrelevant in the world which is why it has decided to turn to militarism and fascism because it knows it can't keep up with China and therefore has nothing to lose.

Japan is going rogue.

 

[BoQ77]

Is it Vietnamese Bastion-P ?
I just wonder how hard a Japanese saves $1,000 per month compare to a Chinese saves $500 per month.

If Japan does approve larger military spending they should focus on ASMs
Japan needs some Coastal ASM complexes

my vote is for Bastion-P
put a few of them complexes on Japan Islands to the South and West and watch the Chinese rage


P-800 Yakhont 3M-55
P-800 Bolid
SS-N-26

When you mentioned to 3% of GDP, you tend to think that you could spend apart of turnover ( including export ) of companies like Foxconn, GM, Samsung, Nokia, Japanese investments in China. while the fact is impossible.

Just wait till China increase the military budget to 3% of GDP. One branch of the PLA will have more money than the entire Japanese military budget. When it comes to spending on military, Japan is outclassed in every possible way.

No Asian country has the resources (money, talent, natural resources, technology) like China does in a massive military buildup.
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You have more enemies and less friends than Japan, remember?

 

[Nike]

I agree with Sahaliyan, I dont think there will be any war between China and Japan. some members here are just too fanboyish IMO. they should be more realistic. Why will China attack Japan mainland when Japan has a defence treaty with the U.S? In fact China will benefit nothing in doing so, it will be the opposite, since she stands to loose everything from a response of the U.S nad international community if she attacks Japan first. Same if Japan attacks China first. So they will be no war between the two. The thing is that time is on China's side(and their leaders know this), so i think she will just bide her time to the point when she has completed at least the first stage of her development cycle which will be say a decade or two from now,by this time, it will be so big both Militarily and Economically(at least 5 times its nearest rival in Asia i think) that no country in the region will even stand a chance against them(except the U.S of course). So until then there might be tough talk/little skirmishes here and there around the senkakus/diayous islands, but there wont be any war per say.

We should note that despite all the talks of war/tension/bad blood between the 2 countries, China and Japan still trade alot among each other more than any country in Asia. So both of their leaders both know they need each other(though to be honest, Japan needs China's market even more) so they are both pragmatic. I think countries in the region like India should take a lesson from this, since i find it surprising that Chinas trade with Japan(a country of 150million and who china regards more negatively than India) is at least 4-5 times that of Chinas trade with India(a country of a billion plus people), same with India-pakistan trade which is almost meaningless/non existing. South Asia can sure learn alot from East Asia. They should learn to seperate Business with politics. This will lea to more development/intergration in the region.

However, i welcome Japans increasingly pro active role in the world, and an increase in their defence budget is part of this. This is a welcome development since Japan has to learn to play/be more active in world affairs/issues. However it will be even more better if Japan can first solve her world war II issues with her neighbours and apologise sincerly, else this will be seen negatively by her neighbours first of which is China and most of all South Korea. The later is even more critical since South Korea still sees Japan as an existential threat to it, and the constant war crimes/sexual slavery denials/war criminals commomeration by Japanese leaders makes matter worst. Japan so try and face its history so it can gain the trust of South Korea, else this will complicate matters and make it easier for China. Luckily for Japan the U.S still has troops/controls South Korea, so it still uses its influence/power to calm down/pressure south Korea in not taking agressive steps against Japan and not getting to close to China. However as China grows stringer each passing year/decade it will be more and difficult for the U.S to maintain this balance, considering the shift in power in the region. So Japan should take action now to gain south koreas trust(though i know it will take a long time).

All the best to Japan.

I am just merely stating If China can develop their own ballistic missile and stating they can reach Guam, Okinawa, Tokyo and any other places in Pacific why the Japanese can't do the same? Actually China aggressiveness toward Japan these days is part of fact if Japan can't do a lot of shit to deter China defense layer in their mainland, but the China side actually can hurt Japan very bad with their offensive weapons such as long range ballistic missile.

 

[Beidou2020]

Is it Vietnamese Bastion-P ?
I just wonder how hard a Japanese saves $1,000 per month compare to a Chinese saves $500 per month.



When you mentioned to 3% of GDP, you tend to think that you could spend apart of turnover ( including export ) of companies like Foxconn, GM, Samsung, Nokia, Japanese investments in China. while the fact is impossible.



You have more enemies and less friends than Japan, remember?

We have one big friend in Russia that is getting closer to China with what the West is doing. Russia and China both hate Japan.
We don't need 10 weak friends, we just need 1 big strong friend.

Japan will face complete and utter annihilation if they went to war with Russia or China, the US won't do nothing when the heat goes up.

The US didn't do a damn thing when we took control of the Scarborough shoal from the Pinoys despite being military allies and the Viets could do nothing to stop us from drilling oil in the Vietnamese coast

 

[BoQ77]

We have one big friend in Russia that is getting closer to China with what the West is doing. Russia and China both hate Japan.
We don't need 10 weak friends, we just need 1 big strong friend.

Japan will face complete and utter annihilation if they went to war with Russia or China, the US won't do nothing when the heat goes up.

The US didn't do a damn thing when we took control of the Scarborough shoal from the Pinoys despite being military allies and the Viets could do nothing to stop us from drilling oil in the Vietnamese coast

It's a fact that Japan could spend x% of China GDP for their re-arm. if you really know well about GDP.


Russia doesn't hate Japan as you expected, let's wait for close ties meeting next between their top chief.

About the Oil rig, we know you did your best to explain why Oil Rig retreated 1 month earlier than scheduled.

 

[Beidou2020]

It's a fact that Japan could spend x% of China GDP for their re-arm. if you really know well about GDP.


Russia doesn't hate Japan as you expected, let's wait for close ties meeting next between their top chief.

About the Oil rig, we know you did your best to explain why Oil Rig retreated 1 month earlier than scheduled.

Chinese economy is twice the size of Japan already

Russia and China hate Japan and getting closer after Japan agreed to sanction Russia.

The oil rig completed its drilling and moved to another location. Viets couldn't do a damn thing to stop our drilling

 

[BoQ77]

I have an advice, let look at state-budget not GDP for % to military spending.

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

China's official defense budget is about 1,4% of GDP with the off budget items added is about 2% of GDP or less. The rise in China's defense budget is in line with nominal GDP growth.

 

[Beidou2020]

I have an advice, let look at state-budget not GDP for % to military spending.

State budget can easily be increased by going into higher budget deficits.
Economic GDP shows the national taxable base.

 

[Nike]

China has a more problems with their neighbor than Japan, that's why their resources will be divided to facing those multiple threats. As Japan, they need only to make a deal with China and little bit cautious against South Korea and North Korea.

 

[BoQ77]

State budget can easily be increased by going into higher budget deficits.
Economic GDP shows the national taxable base.

GDP doesn't show the national taxable.

Chinese economy is twice the size of Japan already

compare to 140 million with 5 pizza each person, 1400 million with 1 pizza each person
what remain if each person eat up 1 of his own pizza.

 

[pher]

China has a more problems with their neighbor than Japan, that's why their resources will be divided to facing those multiple threats. As Japan, they need only to make a deal with China and little bit cautious against South Korea and North Korea.

your knowhow about japan is hilarious. Japan is the only coutires in the world which had major war with today's top 3 power( US, China, Russia), and japan is surrounded by all hatred neighbours except a far away US, which is the effect of atomic bomb.

Korean hate them most for sure, next is China and then Russia. China is in a driver's seat to handle its neighbor's problems. While japan is passively respond its neigbbor's nightmare.

 

[BoQ77]

This is what you call "hatred"

 

[Nike]

your knowhow about japan is hilarious. Japan is the only coutires in the world which had major war with today's top 3 power( US, China, Russia), and japan is surrounded by all hatred neighbours except a far away US, which is the effect of atomic bomb.

Korean hate them most for sure, next is China and then Russia. China is in a driver's seat to handle its neighbor's problems. While japan is passively respond its neigbbor's nightmare.

Your knowledge about Japan is zero that's what i can say. Surrounded? nah they always be surrounded by water since their inception, no lands border no need to have a huge army like the China did. What they only need is to have an credible Naval Forces and Air Forces to deter any invasion by Sea

 

[Jlaw]

This is what you call "hatred"

Is this what you call 'hatred'?