Japan closes in on infrastructure deal with Bangladesh.

[Bilal9]

The father of Tareque is Mamtazuddin Bhuyan, a onetime Professor of naval architecture in BUET. Mr. Mamtaz did his Master's Degree in Japan, but, instead of seeking job there, he went back to BD with his Japanese wife. Jun may be the nick name of Tareque, as far as I remember. Both the parents of Tareq have mild personal character.

Good tidbits - @bluesky !

You are wrong on the Nissan investment program in Myanmar. Click the link below. Another point, do you really think it is economically feasible for a private company to invest in the two poor but adjacent countries? I was just wishing that BD gets Nissan investment instead of MM.

Anyway, since Nissan and MM govt have finalized the deal, therefore, there is no way that the company will come to BD. This is a matter of common understanding that strength of consumers are very low in both the countries.

When Japan produces 9.1 miilion motor vehicles in a year, the total number of vehicles plying on BD roads are less than 350,000. MM, I do not know. However, I also believe that there will be a real Japanese investment, but also worry that the very shallow mindset of BD people will cause their leaving BD en mass. BD people are culturally so different from the Japanese!!

https://www.ft.com/content/f5db7c32-2066-11e3-9a9a-00144feab7de

Well the link is dead for me. But I doubt that Japanese investments in Bangladesh will stop. Look at Honda's motorcycle investments locally. As soon as Bangladeshi market showed promise, they were back here in a flash!

 

[bluesky]

Infrastructure Projects in Bangladesh: Tokyo to invest under new arrangement

It may be the most important decision by the GoB. The present scenario: JICA funds a project and a Chinese, Italian, Indian or a Thai company wins the bidding only because the salaries of their engineering staff are much lower than the Japanese engineers. From now on the situation will change and the quality and speed of Japanese-funded infrastructure projects will go for better than average. Japanese just hate to delay the pre-determined schedule.

It should also be noted that the Japanese project engineers certainly do not set a schedule arbitrarily. They think over all the major/critical activities and events of a job, use the CPM (Critical Path Method) to find out the shortest time required to complete a project.

 

[Dot]

Govt have not approved the proposal yet. Hope it does materialize.

 

[bluesky]

Good tidbits - @bluesky

Well the link is dead for me. But I doubt that Japanese investments in Bangladesh will stop. Look at Honda's motorcycle investments locally. As soon as Bangladeshi market showed promise, they were back here in a flash!

Click the link below to know about Nissan investment in MM:
https://www.mmbiztoday.com/articles/nissan-start-producing-cars-myanmar-h2-2016

 

[Nilgiri]

Click the link below to know about Nissan investment in MM:
https://www.mmbiztoday.com/articles/nissan-start-producing-cars-myanmar-h2-2016

Why can't BD attract even the same given its much quoted "3.5 times larger" economy?

@Aung Zaya

 

[bluesky]

Why can't BD attract even the same given its much quoted "3.5 times larger" economy?

It has already attracted $2.1 billion Chinese investment in the primary industry called steel. It has also attracted $22 billion dollars of investment in the form of credit from China. Investment in infrastructure is more important than the investment directly in industries. A huge investment in industries cannot be expected when the country's infrastructure is weak. China is certainly helping us in this field that will attract hundreds of billions of dollars of private investment in Bd in the future.

Now is coming the Japanese JICA multi-billion dollar investment in the infrastructure building works including a deep seaport near Matarbari. After this, the private Japanese industries will invest in an exclusive economic zone near Cox's Bazaar. Are you Indians so stupid not to see that Japan ousted both the contending parties, China and India from the deep seaport project there? Japan will play a proxy role to the US interest in the BoB. Its observation post in our southern tip will be watching the development of Orissa naval base and a Chinese navy base in MM.

We should not lament a paltry Nissan investment in MM. Nissan cars are popular in MM. It is Toyota in BD. I hope, someday Toyota and Mitsubishi will invest in BD. But, can they do it when the road transport infrastructure is so weak? So, Indians should just wait and see how the future BD unfurls strongly in front of the crying eyes of the Indians. Oh!! Baby, do not weep!!!

 

[bête noire]

Interesting how you speak of BD economy while praising MM. Yet BD is ahead of MM in GDP Per Capita, has more and dense population, so much bigger economy. Blatant partisan like this doesn't paint MM in any good manner. Nowhere is MM ahead over BD in therms of economy per people. If with all the FDI you are talking of, MM still can't match BD in per capita economy, than it speaks volume of how well BD does on it's own while MM struggles with outside investment.

 

[Nilgiri]

It has already attracted $2.1 billion Chinese investment in the primary industry called steel. It has also attracted $22 billion dollars of investment in the form of credit from China. Investment in infrastructure is more important than the investment directly in industries. A huge investment in industries cannot be expected when the country's infrastructure is weak. China is certainly helping us in this field that will attract hundreds of billions of dollars of private investment in Bd in the future.

Now is coming the Japanese JICA multi-billion dollar investment in the infrastructure building works including a deep seaport near Matarbari. After this, the private Japanese industries will invest in an exclusive economic zone near Cox's Bazaar. Are you Indians so stupid not to see that Japan ousted both the contending parties, China and India from the deep seaport project there? Japan will play a proxy role to the US interest in the BoB. Its observation post in our southern tip will be watching the development of Orissa naval base and a Chinese navy base in MM.

We should not lament a paltry Nissan investment in MM. Nissan cars are popular in MM. It is Toyota in BD. I hope, someday Toyota and Mitsubishi will invest in BD. But, can they do it when the road transport infrastructure is so weak? So, Indians should just wait and see how the future BD unfurls strongly in front of the crying eyes of the Indians. Oh!! Baby, do not weep!!!

Steel lol, you consume about half the steel per capita that MM does, you are talking about a tiny investment that should have happened 20 years ago in BD meaning something today?

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/gripen-for-bangladesh.530747/page-6#post-10056110

I am talking about vehicle assembly, MM is doing something right that you are not. Its that simple. @Aung Zaya

How a 170 million population still does not have one 10k production capacity plant that MM is getting (with 3 times lower population) is frankly astonishing.

Sorry don't put it down to "road infra", MM road infra is also not great. Simply put you have low consumption per capita (compared to MM) and your govt extracts its cut at all levels to make even assembling something so basic (with the terrible and unproductive BD labour* taken into account) ridiculously uncompetitive....because BAL govt and BD are bottom 10% percentile in corruption in world (transparency international CPI index) after all....and not even improving an iota either over 5 years.

Just remember what happened when you tried to get into a discussion the last time:

*https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/gdp-...september-quarter.531069/page-4#post-10056012

Dayum look at that BD productivity!

Interesting how you speak of BD economy while praising MM. Yet BD is ahead of MM in GDP Per Capita, has more and dense population, so much bigger economy. Blatant partisan like this doesn't paint MM in any good manner. Nowhere is MM ahead over BD in therms of economy per people. If with all the FDI you are talking of, MM still can't match BD in per capita economy, than it speaks volume of how well BD does on it's own while MM struggles with outside investment.

I am talking about realised consumption per capita (PPP). Nominal USD is a distorted irrelevant measure when its below 5000 per capita....given sensitivity to trade%/GDP at the lower rung.

Myanmar clearly consumes more than you, its seen the physical per capita consumption of energy, electricity, steel, cement, concrete, manufactured goods...you name it. It simply did not push RMG quotas to ensure guaranteed US dollar liquidity prevalence as % of economy like BD did for 20+ years. Thus extrapolating USD exchange rate to entire BD consumption basket is flawed at best and atrociously faulty at worst (when talking about actual on the ground income/consumption per capita). This topic has been discussed too much already....so I am not wasting any more time on it.

For example with steel:

From 2006 to 2015, the total per capita steel consumption of MM was 244.4 kg

The figure for BD was 130.9 kg.

Want me to do it for electricity, energy, cement etc next?

 

[Aung Zaya]

Why can't BD attract even the same given its much quoted "3.5 times larger" economy?

@Aung Zaya

no need ford , nissan. u know ? BD has Walton. it will make all what BD needs. walton stonk
more than 5 automobile makers secured the permit from MIC to assemble cars in Myanmar.

Ford
https://www.rmagroup.net/all-news-update/rma-group-opens-ford-assembly-facility-myanmar/

Suzuki will finish its second plant in next year.
http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...suzuki-to-build-second-plant-in-myanmar-media

Daewoo
https://www.mmtimes.com/business/21938-local-firm-plans-daewoo-bus-factory-in-yangon.html

SC auto from SG ,
Lifan and another Chinese automaker.
Toyata is negotiate to get more land.

 

[Species]

Want me to do it for electricity, energy, cement etc next?

Yes, go ahead.

Also do it for banana consumption, herbs consumption, vegetable consumption.

Prepare the lists till I tell you to do for more.

 

[Dot]

The way West is coming down on MM recently, it would be hard for them to realize the gains from foreign FDIs in the end. Sure, Bigbrother China is always there to pick over the bones!

 

[UKBengali]

The way West is coming down on MM recently, it would be hard for them to realize the gains from foreign FDIs in the end. Sure, Bigbrother China is always there to pick over the bones!

Barmans are Chinese slaves now.

 

[Dot]

Barmans are Chinese slaves now.

This is how China SMARTLY has been taking over a lot of states. I don't blame China. Its just that they are Too Smart with their economic Might & Soft-Policies. Look at how and when China started taking over Srilanka, similar thing is happening with MM. Pakistan could be one of such-ish examples. Too much sweet sometimes not good for health!

 

[bluesky]

Moderator: Although off-topic, I have uploaded a few pictures of Japanese gardens. The country is dotted with thousands of natural parks and man-made gardens. All are artistic in quality. Many of my fellow countrymen love to say about the affinities between BD and Japanese cultures and value systems. But, only a higher level of value system can bring about this kind of man-made gardens.

The gardens were not built by the PM's office, but by the specialized garden builders under the local municipalities. The garden builders have a very high standard of value system. They get wage as usual, but they feel, like all other Japanese in industries or elsewhere, that they are contributing to the upgrading of their country.

Instead of talking affinities, we should try to learn from the Japanese value system and emulate them to do good to the country. It is not that our leaders are worse than our population. The reality is because people in BD are self-centered and greedy, therefore, the people who become someday our leaders are no different from the rest. They remain as greedy and self-centered. This is why the country is at its present peril.