Japan Becomes #1 Destination for Viet Students

[BoQ77]

Chinese kid learn English for better future, American kid didn't learn Chinese because they don't see the future: learn an extra language is always as PLUS for yourself, Americans will gradually swallowed by their ego.

American used to ignore others for so long but Spanish and Vietnamese language are more popular in Us by time.

Chinese ppl paying more and more attention to English when they get richer.

People learn language of the country they are going to visit, stay, work, study... Or learning English.

 

[sweetgrape]

American used to ignore others for so long but Spanish and Vietnamese language are more popular in Us by time.

Chinese ppl paying more and more attention to English when they get richer.

People learn language of the country they are going to visit, stay, work, study... Or learning English.

You say Vietnamese will get popular in US by time? hehe, tell me that is big joke, man, how could it be popular?

Chinese pay more attention to English, because English is international language, world wide language, is it weird? if Vietnamese don't choose English, but Japanese, I am happy for this too.

 

[Jlaw]

Why in China, every kids need to learn English? while American kid didn't learn Chinese ?
Didn't you know Korean, Japanese people learn Vietnamese?

Can you simply answer my question?

These vietnamese were supposed to go to Japan and learn Japanese. The blackboard should have something written about that either in Vietnamese or Japanese. Why Chinese? That is the question.

 

[BoQ77]

Can you simply answer my question?

These vietnamese were supposed to go to Japan and learn Japanese. The blackboard should have something written about that either in Vietnamese or Japanese. Why Chinese? That is the question.

1. Nihongo derived many Chinese characters. Foreign students just want to understand what was taught then they must be familiar with symbol characters system.
2. You may know that to learn well about Hangul, which derived many English vocabulary, students must reach atleast intermediate level in English too.
3. I used to hear many Chinese ppl while unable to speak English but able to spell manything used English Alphabet too. Is it taught in the school?
Chinese ever been a most affected language in Asia, so dont be so surprise to see the footprint of it somewhere in Asia, Vietnam, Japan... But the affection is fading. American still use English after opposed to motherland UK, Singapore use English as official language while 90% of its pop. Is Chinese race...

 

[sweetgrape]

1. Nihongo derived many Chinese characters. Foreign students just want to understand what was taught then they must be familiar with symbol characters system.
2. You may know that to learn well about Hangul, which derived many English vocabulary, students must reach atleast intermediate level in English too.
3. I used to hear many Chinese ppl while unable to speak English but able to spell manything used English Alphabet too. Is it taught in the school?
Chinese ever been a most affected language in Asia, so dont be so surprise to see the footprint of it somewhere in Asia, Vietnam, Japan... But the affection is fading. American still use English after opposed to motherland UK, Singapore use English as official language while 90% of its pop. Is Chinese race...

Hehe, you logic is still that weird and ridiculous, first understand, why you learn language, why people learn English, not it sound better.

Do you know why your history and literature were recorded or writen in Chinese in the history, if you want make you language strong, first, you become strong encough, ok.

Don't tell me, you Vietnamese in oversea speak Vietnamese with others, hehe, why you are still such stupid? can't understand what's in your head.

 

[BoQ77]

Vietnamese always speak Vietnamese language, not Chinese.
Before, we used Hanzi system to write, alongside with Nom characters which is pure Viet;
After, we use latin-based characters to write until now.

Compare to Korean, Japanese, Chinese, ... Vietnamese ppl learn English easier

 

[Viet]

I think i can master Chinese within 6 months. For lower educated Vietnamese people, like labourer, 1 year is more than enough. But I doubt Japanese can learn Chinese in one year. Despite similar writting, the two languages are totally different, but Vietnamese can be seen as a Chinese dialect with Mon Khmer root. (I have learned in different levels both Chinese and Jap)

mastering multiple languages ist a nice thing, sometimes it is a must today if you want to work oversea or for a multinational company. chinese language is a just one of them. 6 months is very ambituous, I think one needs about 12 months to communicate with the chinese. if you can in 6 months, then you are good. mastering a sufficient number of chinese characters (500+) enabling you to read chinese newspapers is a different story. you need at least 1 year. in most cases 2 years.

anyway, my point is Japan is a model for Vietnam. China is not for many reasons. and that is not only my personal view.

Viet girl students in Japan

 

[waz]

where is our Japanese friend from the country of the rising sun?

banzai!

photo. Viet students in Japan.

The less said of that the better......

Thanh Nien News
Wednesday, April 13, 2016

There were 38,882 Vietnamese students in Japan as of May last year, an increase of 47.1 percent from the year before, Vietnam News Agency reported Wednesday, citing figures released by a Japanese educational organization.

It was higher than the 29,000 studying in the US, which had been Vietnamese students' top destination until March, according to an official at the Vietnamese embassy in Tokyo.

Vietnam is now Japan's second biggest source of students after China, which had 94,111 students, a number that remained unchanged since 2014.

As more and more Japanese businesses are entering Vietnam, Vietnamese interest in Japan is increasing accordingly, a Japanese educational official told the news agency.

The increased interest is also reflected in the fact that several elementary schools in Vietnam have started teaching Japanese, according to the official.

More than 110,000 Vietnamese students study in 47 countries around the world, spending an estimated US$3 billion a year, according to figures released at the end of last year by an education and training working group of the Vietnam Business Forum.

Good news, fantastic country and your students will receive a good education.

Viet girl students in Japan

Beautiful picture, beautiful ladies. I love the traditional dresses of Asia. There are similarities with ours.

 

[Gauss]

My cousin is dreaming of MIT, Harvard. Ive advised him to forget about them and go to Tokyo University instead. He is a straight A's student but i know he wont get into MIT. So ive shown him the best possible deal.

 

[Wolfwind]

I think i can master Chinese within 6 months. For lower educated Vietnamese people, like labourer, 1 year is more than enough. But I doubt Japanese can learn Chinese in one year. Despite similar writting, the two languages are totally different, but Vietnamese can be seen as a Chinese dialect with Mon Khmer root. (I have learned in different levels both Chinese and Jap)

Linguistically Vietnamese is totally different from Chinese and is a Mon-Khmer language, not a Sino-Tibetan one, despite a lot of Sino loan words. It is not a "dialect" either, a dialect would imply mutual intelligibility (the "dialects" of China are actually languages).

The syntax of Vietnamese is completely different from any Chinese language. For instance, in Vietnamese, Thai, Khmer, and other Southeast Asian languages, the adjective and noun is reversed, so they say "cat black" rather than "black cat". Further, Chinese lies somewhere in between a continuum of SOV and SVO structures; Vietnamese is purely SVO.

 

[AViet]

Linguistically Vietnamese is totally different from Chinese and is a Mon-Khmer language, not a Sino-Tibetan one, despite a lot of Sino loan words. It is not a "dialect" either, a dialect would imply mutual intelligibility (the "dialects" of China are actually languages).

The syntax of Vietnamese is completely different from any Chinese language. For instance, in Vietnamese, Thai, Khmer, and other Southeast Asian languages, the adjective and noun is reversed, so they say "cat black" rather than "black cat". Further, Chinese lies somewhere in between a continuum of SOV and SVO structures; Vietnamese is purely SVO.

It is a very complicated and still controversial issue, with regards to the Vietnamese language.

Linguistically, modern Vietnamese language may have Mon Khmer root. However, Luo Yue (Lac Việt) people, considered by ourselves as direct ancestor, probably spoke Thai-Kadai language, not Mon-Khmer. Basically, most Southern Chinese and Northern Vietnamese are of Yue origin, and Yue people using some types of Thai-Kadai languages is the most accepted theory now.

mastering multiple languages ist a nice thing, sometimes it is a must today if you want to work oversea or for a multinational company. chinese language is a just one of them. 6 months is very ambituous, I think one needs about 12 months to communicate with the chinese. if you can in 6 months, then you are good. mastering a sufficient number of chinese characters (500+) enabling you to read chinese newspapers is a different story. you need at least 1 year. in most cases 2 years.

anyway, my point is Japan is a model for Vietnam. China is not for many reasons. and that is not only my personal view.

Viet girl students in Japan

I respect Japanese, but their current model is not fit for us, I believe (and not only me). If Vietnam want to follow the Japanese way successfully, first it needs to conquer some countries and rob them for 50 - 100 years.

Of all developed countries in the world, only China (and some East Asian nations, with same model as China) have successfully turned itself from a developing into a developed country (not only in GDP per capita, but many other aspects) without colonizing and robbing other countries for long time, either directly like the UK or indirectly like Northern Europe. Even Russia conquered and robbed brutally many colonies in Siberia and Central Asia.

Liberal democracy is almost dead. It cannot renovate itself and has failed to advance. Authoritarian regime, à la Singapore style or Chinese style, is a more healthy model. Just take a Singapore vs. Taiwan comparison and you can see the clear difference.

Capitalism is not dead, but now Vietnam (and not only Vietnam, but every developing country as well) may need the "brutal" type of capitalism, just like in China today, rather than the subtle, soft-type one, a la Japanese, France or western europe. The overly-protected capitalism in Western Europe are now killing themselves. You may know more about it than me.

 

[William Hung]

It is a very complicated and still controversial issue, with regards to the Vietnamese language.

Linguistically, modern Vietnamese language may have Mon Khmer root. However, Luo Yue (Lac Việt) people, considered by ourselves as direct ancestor, probably spoke Thai-Kadai language, not Mon-Khmer. Basically, most Southern Chinese and Northern Vietnamese are of Yue origin, and Yue people using some types of Thai-Kadai languages is the most accepted theory now.

I agree with Wolfwind on this one. Vietic language is Mon-Khmer. This is not that controversial anymore. You are using very old outdated views about Vietic being in the same family with Sino-Tibetan or Tai-Kadai. Not many reputable linguistics experts agree with that any more, there is almost a consensus amongst modern lingustics that Vietics is in the same family with Mon-Khmer.

Also your views about “Yue”, Lac Viet, etc. is also outdated and not accurate. “Yue” used by the Chinese was just a loose term for tribes in the southern China region and some of them speak Tai-Kadai, some speak Hmong-mien and some even speak Austronesian, not just Tai-Kadai...so no, “Yue speaking some kind of Tai-kadai” is not accurate and not the “most accepted theory”.

Basically, the Mon-Khmer speaking people is one of the the oldest people group in mainland Southeast Asia and the Viet (Kinh) people, even the modern generations in Hanoi, have the older upstream genetic markers as opposed to the “yue” tribes in southern China who have more later downstream genetic markers. This is more evidence that the Vietnamese language used by modern Viet people has Mon-Khmer root indigenous to mainland southeast asia and not Tai-Kadai or the others related to south China. There used to be a thread on this.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I respect Japanese, but their current model is not fit for us, I believe (and not only me). If Vietnam want to follow the Japanese way successfully, first it needs to conquer some countries and rob them for 50 - 100 years.

Of all developed countries in the world, only China (and some East Asian nations, with same model as China) have successfully turned itself from a developing into a developed country (not only in GDP per capita, but many other aspects) without colonizing and robbing other countries for long time, either directly like the UK or indirectly like Northern Europe. Even Russia conquered and robbed brutally many colonies in Siberia and Central Asia.

Liberal democracy is almost dead. It cannot renovate itself and has failed to advance. Authoritarian regime, à la Singapore style or Chinese style, is a more healthy model. Just take a Singapore vs. Taiwan comparison and you can see the clear difference.

Capitalism is not dead, but now Vietnam (and not only Vietnam, but every developing country as well) may need the "brutal" type of capitalism, just like in China today, rather than the subtle, soft-type one, a la Japanese, France or western europe. The overly-protected capitalism in Western Europe are now killing themselves. You may know more about it than me.

That's why current Vietnamese government keep modeling (not copy) as the Chinese system instead of using Western or Russia governing system. I think many of Vietnamese scholars and intellects have seen and share your view.

 

[bananarepublic]

And the Number one place for Weeaboo`s PPPP

 

[waz]

And the Number one place for Weeaboo`s PPPP

Lmao! I saw so many when I was in Japan. The Japanese used to always make me laugh by cracking jokes about them.