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Japan and China: What’s the Best Way Forward?

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Sometimes, the best strategy is to just leave things as they are, when the alternative is only to make things worse. Signs that tensions between Japan and China may be easing have raised hopes for a long-delayed summit meeting of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese President Xi Jinping during annual APEC (Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation) summit in Beijing in November. That the two have not met so far has troubled both sides, given the major role both countries play in regional affairs.

A meeting between Abe and Xi on the sidelines of the Pacific rim meeting would be a step toward normalizing relations disrupted by the longstanding dispute over islands in the East China Sea that are claimed by both countries. But analysts say a meeting will not lead to a significant easing of friction unless the two sides can find a mutually acceptable compromise.

How crucial is it to each side that relations improve? Tensions flared into anti-Japanese riots across China in September 2012 after Japan nationalized the disputed islands, known as the Senkakus in Japan and the Diaoyu islands in China. China has sent ships and aircraft to patrol seas near the islands, drawing indignant responses from Japan. While both sides have refrained from exchanging fire, there have some been some close calls, with military aircraft from the two countries passing just 30 meters away from each other over the East China Sea earlier this year.


Many nations, including the U.S., expressed consternation after China declared it had set up an Air Defense Identification Zone covering the East China Sea, requiring aircraft from other countries to identify themselves. “It is clear that the relationship is under a lot of strain at the moment, and that is likely to continue because [of] political problems within China and the anti-corruption campaign,” says Franklin Allen, a Wharton finance professor. “On top of that, you have the island dispute.”

Japan and China: What’s the Best Way Forward?
 
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N O N E ! ! ! :wave:

I prefer to wait until the next Japan PM.

And USA out of East Asia affair.


lol, why so pessimistic, little brother ? :)

And USA out of East Asia affair.

But Japan intends to keep and bolster our alliance with the United States, indefinitely. The United States is a Pacific Power. Its interests will overlap East Asian interests.
 
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Probably for long time tension between China and Japan is gonna be strained. Abe is right wing nationalist while Xi is also more nationalistic than any other predecessors. Previous Chinese presidents are mostly either ideologists (true communists that believe in revolution etc etc) or pragmatists (later ones), but Xi is quite different. Xi is unusually proud of traditional China, but of course, he alone cannot turn around the CCP's ideological tradition since this communist ideology is the foundation of the CCP's power that all the CCP has to cling to even if nobody really believes. For that reason, he is still paying lip service to socialistic, blah blah.
If Xi were the president during China-India war, China would have not withdrawn from India. You got the picture.
 
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Probably for long time tension between China and Japan is gonna be strained. Abe is right wing nationalist while Xi is also more nationalistic than any other predecessors. Previous Chinese presidents are mostly either ideologists (true communists that believe in revolution etc etc) or pragmatists (later ones), but Xi is quite different. Xi is unusually proud of traditional China, but of course, he alone cannot turn around the CCP's ideological tradition since this communist ideology is the foundation of the CCP's power that all the CCP has to cling to even if nobody really believes. For that reason, he is still paying lip service to socialistic, blah blah.
If Xi were the president during China-India war, China would have not withdrawn from India. You got the picture.

Let us not also forget the politics that played into his favor. He was favored to be leader, whilst Bo was sacked. There are internal intrigue that most of us will never know , but Xi will be eternally grateful for his ascendancy in party leadership. He was selected for a reason.

To quote Game of thrones, "A Lannister always pays his debts."

In this regard, Xi will be a Tywin Lannister.
 
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Hopefully all can be worked out between the two nations. The best way forward is for each to swallow their pride (giggitty :p:) and admit they are better together than apart. Since Nihonjin1051 brought Game of Thrones into this conversation I will too. If relations continue to dip, scenes such as this might become more and more of a reality;

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And that would really ruin you afternoon.
 
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Hopefully all can be worked out between the two nations. The best way forward is for each to swallow their pride (giggitty :p:) and admit they are better together than apart. Since Nihonjin1051 brought Game of Thrones into this conversation I will too. If relations continue to dip, scenes such as this might become more and more of a reality;

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And that would really ruin you afternoon.

LOL! Ironic that Tywin gets shot by a crossbow by his "son", the dwarf whom he made fun of all his life.

The "little" guy won, in the end, whilst daddy got 2 crossbow bolts to the chest. In the privy.
 
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One way:USA's sphere of influence move out of East Asia,return to traditional East Asia political pattern before 1840.
 
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China shouldn't waste time talking to a Japan that can't make and follow its own foreign policies.
 
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Maintaining the existing relationships are best relationship.No contact, no confrontation.I think this is very good.Japan can continue to visit the Yasukuni,China continued to condemn.I think now is the best period of bilateral relations.Abe lifted the ban,Japanese do not bring peace mask.Very good.
 
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@Nihonjin1051 @SvenSvensonov I already know the finale of Season 4 but that does not entitle you to post spoilers. :nono:

Ha ha ha, my apologies @rugering . I'm a newly converted fan of Game of Thrones. And dying already to see Season 5 begin...:argh:

Maintaining the existing relationships are best relationship.No contact, no confrontation.I think this is very good.Japan can continue to visit the Yasukuni,China continued to condemn.I think now is the best period of bilateral relations.Abe lifted the ban,Japanese do not bring peace mask.Very good.

You know, geopolicy is not as black and white , let alone as naively simple as your conjecture. You'd be surprised to see the high level of intergovernmentalism at work.

I'm a Japanese Nationalist but one that's a pragmatist , and an optimist.
 
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Why does China need to negotiate with a small island nation with no natural resources and the need to import 60 percent of its food? The moment a war starts, and the shipping lanes are shut down, Japan becomes a third world country overnight. Furthermore, Chinese missiles can cover all of Japan. How many Fukushimas does Japan want?

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