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Jahangir Tareen's new party to be named ‘Istehkam-e-Pakistan’

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کس نے کہا تھا اسمبلیاں توڑو۔ خان صاحب سکون سے اپوزیشن میں بیٹھ جاتے تو غیر متنازعہ آرمی چیف، نیب چئرمین اور چیف الیکشن کمشنر کی تعیناتی کرواسکتے تھے چھ مہینے آرام سے گزار لیتے تو ایسی نوبت نہ آتی۔ بعض دفعہ غلط فیصلے سر بھی لے جاتے ہیں۔

And frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised. Imran Khan could've patiently waited for the next general election. But instead, he chose to spew unhinged political rhetoric, blaming his old mentors, from Supreme Court's chief justices to that 'certain' high-ranking army official slash king maker who gave him the 'throne' on a silver platter back in 2018.

Golden words.
Just a little patience! That was all needed after April 2022. But not only Imran was impatient but he went after the wrong targets despite advice from his close allies.
How can you trust an idiot like Imran to run a country of 220+ million people? Yeah, I'd concede that he is probably financially cleanest and means well and is also a great steward of environmental and charity issues. But a complex country like Pakistan needs a wise politician at the top. Imran was far from wise: He was the dumbest who ever rose that high in power in Pakistan.
 
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@muhammadhafeezmalik @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE you flood this section with anti-Imran mantra ... well this is your democratic right ... but we never seen you people post anything about PMLN,PDM,PPP Nawaz, Shahbaz or his party performance .....any reason why ? ...

Golden words.
Just a little patience! That was all needed after April 2022. But not only Imran was impatient but he went after the wrong targets despite advice from his close allies.
How can you trust an idiot like Imran to run a country of 220+ million people? Yeah, I'd concede that he is probably financially cleanest and means well and is also a great steward of environmental and charity issues. But a complex country like Pakistan needs a wise politician at the top. Imran was far from wise: He was the dumbest who ever rose that high in power in Pakistan.
Watch Moeed Pirzada last vlog, when he had good relations with military, they told him we ll break his party..decision was already made in early 2021...so have a power or no power ...makes no difference. Do we see any cloud of elections right now .... ???? ..Imagine Zardari-Shahbaz is running the govt
 
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I read this and became sad. What could have been!!!

I only gave some hypothetical projections for 20 years in the future. If we calculate what Pakistan could have been today if the generals hadn’t destroyed the country it can make the most hardened of men cry.

—95% literacy
—GDP: $1.4 trillion (instead of $350 billion)
—Exports: $200 billion ($27 billion)
—Reserves: $100 billion ($4 billion)
—Federal budget: $200 billion ($30 billion)
—Military budget: $56 billion ($11 billion)

And so on. Today Pakistan could have been a very prosperous country, militarily strong, with a lot of international status and a leader of the Islamic world.

Instead, the British Indian Army destroyed our past and are hell bent on destroying our future.
 
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If you think a single guy - any guy - can keep these seasoned crocs and bureaucrats in line, then you're living in fool's paradise.

They joined PTI because:
  1. Army forced them to back in 2018 (I can show you proof).
  2. PMLN + PPP had sunk to new lows. Their party tickets meant squat.
  3. PTI was the only political laundry in business. What choice did they have?
  4. Most people here are super gullible and naive, unfortunately.
So, why the surprised Pickachu face? History has a tendency to repeat itself.

And frankly, I'm not the least bit surprised. Imran Khan could've patiently waited for the next general election. But instead, he chose to spew unhinged political rhetoric, blaming his old mentors, from Supreme Court's chief justices to that 'certain' high-ranking army official slash king maker who gave him the 'throne' on a silver platter back in 2018.

TL;DR Imran Khan betrayed his mentors. Now his mentees have betrayed him. Classic tit for tat situation, as far as I'm concerned.

@Tamerlane

Looking at Pakistan history. So many times political engineering took place, creation of parties by the powerful to destroy other parties, double crossing, bribery, blackmail, kidnapping, character assassination, jails, false cases.

1970 Elections: AL clearly won but were not given the mandate, crackdown took place against AL but they wouldn't crack, nothing worked against AL. They had no lotas but ideological workers who were not willing to backdown.
AL - 167 seats
Ppp - 86 seats

1977 Elections - Bhutto clearly won the elections but PNA (Mullah brigade and PMLN types) would not except, they protested, cause problems and after 4 months Zia declared martial law. Bhutto had huge support but was still removed, jailed and hanged
Ppp - 155
PNA - 36

1988 Elections: PPP was a national party and won the elections. Many new mullah parties were created like JUI F to dent ppp vote. PPP still won due to Bhutto legacy.
PPP - 98
PmlN (IJI) - 56

1990 Elections: After 2 years in power, ppp was removed and political engineering and activation of the Mullah brigade made ppp loose. Mqm also came as anti ppp in Karachi. Reason was corruption but what changed afterwards? PmlN and Ppp recieved similar amount of votes but huge difference in the seats. Good plan B.
PmlN - 106
Ppp - 44
Mqm - 15

1993 Elections: Nawaz Sharif and president had a fallout so under military pressure he resigned and went for new elections in 1993. Ppp won again due to Bhutto legacy
Ppp - 89
PmlN - 73

1997 Elections: Clear majority for Pmln. After 2 years the government was removed and NS exiled.
PmlN - 137
Ppp - 18
Mqm - 12

2002 elections -
Pmlq went from 0 to 105 seats
MMA went from 0 to 59 seats
PmlN went from 135 down to 19 seats.

We can see from the above history, elections have always bought chaos in Pakistan, governments were removed, leaders jailed, false cases, killings, the list continues. If the powerful are not happy then a plan starts, and over the years when they find a chance then governments are toppled.

PTI is in a similar boat. 2002 elections they won 1 seats, then during 2013 elections won 35 seats and they rose as a large populist party, 2018 they came to government and then were removed, now a heavy crackdown is taking place against them.

Why suddenly one party is a hero and then after 2 to 3 years becomes traitor, ppp, Pmln were in the same boat.
 
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@Tamerlane

Looking at Pakistan history. So many times political engineering took place, creation of parties by the powerful to destroy other parties, double crossing, bribery, blackmail, kidnapping, character assassination, jails, false cases.

1970 Elections: AL clearly won but were not given the mandate, crackdown took place against AL but they wouldn't crack, nothing worked against AL. They had no lotas but ideological workers who were not willing to backdown.
AL - 167 seats
Ppp - 86 seats

1977 Elections - Bhutto clearly won the elections but PNA (Mullah brigade and PMLN types) would not except, they protested, cause problems and after 4 months Zia declared martial law. Bhutto had huge support but was still removed, jailed and hanged
Ppp - 155
PNA - 36

1988 Elections: PPP was a national party and won the elections. Many new mullah parties were created like JUI F to dent ppp vote. PPP still won due to Bhutto legacy.
PPP - 98
PmlN (IJI) - 56

1990 Elections: After 2 years in power, ppp was removed and political engineering and activation of the Mullah brigade made ppp loose. Mqm also came as anti ppp in Karachi. Reason was corruption but what changed afterwards? PmlN and Ppp recieved similar amount of votes but huge difference in the seats. Good plan B.
PmlN - 106
Ppp - 44
Mqm - 15

1993 Elections: Nawaz Sharif and president had a fallout so under military pressure he resigned and went for new elections in 1993. Ppp won again due to Bhutto legacy
Ppp - 89
PmlN - 73

1997 Elections: Clear majority for Pmln. After 2 years the government was removed and NS exiled.
PmlN - 137
Ppp - 18
Mqm - 12

2002 elections -
Pmlq went from 0 to 105 seats
MMA went from 0 to 59 seats
PmlN went from 135 down to 19 seats.

We can see from the above history, elections have always bought chaos in Pakistan, governments were removed, leaders jailed, false cases, killings, the list continues. If the powerful are not happy then a plan starts, and over the years when they find a chance then governments are toppled.

PTI is in a similar boat. 2002 elections they won 1 seats, then during 2013 elections won 35 seats and they rose as a large populist party, 2018 they came to government and then were removed, now a heavy crackdown is taking place against them.

Why suddenly one party is a hero and then after 2 to 3 years becomes traitor, ppp, Pmln were in the same boat.
Exactly. But the 'Youth' makes it sound like it's something new and exciting:

Why go far, here's what happened back in 2018:


Army did to PMLN and PPP what it's doing to PTI now. It's nothing new. The 'King Maker' not only paved the way for Imran Khan, they laid out a red carpet for him, rose petals and everything!

Yet Imran Khan's head was so far up in his keister that he started growling at the guy who gave him everything. If that wasn't enough, he wanted to burn the entire country in a civil war, all in the name of a personal feud.

Truth be told, I'd a certain degree of respect for Imran Khan, even though I never really agreed with his political tactics. But after his unhinged, egotistical rhetoric I think we are better off without him. And like I said, a single guy - no matter how powerful - can do squat about our corrupt to the core bureaucracy, judiciary, and politicians.

Musharraf was a good example. He couldn't even erect the Kala Bagh Dam, something we will desperately need in the future, now that the world is moving towards electric cars and everything... but I digress.
 
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Watch Moeed Pirzada last vlog, when he had good relations with military, they told him we ll break his party..decision was already made in early 2021...so have a power or no power ...makes no difference. Do we see any cloud of elections right now .... ???? ..Imagine Zardari-Shahbaz is running the govt

I have never been fan of the Sharifs and Zardaris; I am old enough to have seen them since the 1980s. My hope was in Imran Khan but he is probably WORSE than them! The two corrupt old parties are like the corrupt parties in other poor countries including even in India. But countries like India and Bangladesh benefit from orderly transfers of power--an absolutely perquisite for stability and economic growth. About 2021: You don't have to quote Moeed: The rift between Imran and the Establishment started after the Fall of Kabul in August 2021. Imran's continued path to power was through the Military and the ISI chiefs of his choice. This is where this dumb guy overplayed his cards. Look up what even Pervez Elahi says about that stupidity.

Yet Imran Khan's head was so far up in his keister that he started growling at the guy who gave him everything. If that wasn't enough, he wanted to burn the entire country in a civil war, all in the name of a personal feud.

I have no doubt that a guy like Imran Khan who had publicly asked Pakistanis to send money to Pakistan through 'Hundi' channel, which is an illegal channel with dire consequences for Pakistan's economy and image, would go to any lengths to gain power.
 
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Hafiz kutta alongwith all his baturds will not be successful in the long run, just lije bajwa whi is been humiliated every now and then he eill face in shah Allah the same.
 
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کس نے کہا تھا اسمبلیاں توڑو۔ خان صاحب سکون سے اپوزیشن میں بیٹھ جاتے تو غیر متنازعہ آرمی چیف، نیب چئرمین اور چیف الیکشن کمشنر کی تعیناتی کرواسکتے تھے چھ مہینے آرام سے گزار لیتے تو ایسی نوبت نہ آتی۔ بعض دفعہ غلط فیصلے سر بھی لے جاتے ہیں۔

So you resorted to writing in urdu as you thought I wouldn't be able to read it.
A gandoo always bends over. A warrior stands his ground even when alone against the whole world.
So tell me will you bend over for six months and get one up the jacksy (araam see ofcourse lool) or will u be a man and stand for what's correct.

Please refrain from typing shit. It may work in your mohalla. But some of us Pakistanis are free and we don't bend for anyone least of all traitors of the nation

People joining IPP:
Fawad Chaudhry (potential), Imran Ismail, Ali Zaidi, Murad Raas, Firdous Ashiq Awan, Muhammad Zaheer-ud-Din Khan Alizai, Fayyaz ul Hassan Chohan, Malik Nauman Ahmad Langrial, Chaudhry Muhammad Norez Shakoor, former secretary general Aamir Kayani, Javed Ansari, Tariq Abdullah, and Syed Ghazi Gulab Jamal.
Rafaqat Gillani, ex-MPA from Chishtian, Mumtaz Mehravi and ex-MPA from Sahiwal, Meher Irshad Kathia. From Nankana Sahib, Mian Usman Ashraf and Major (retd) Khurram Rokhri.



Democrat Group is dissolve and joined IPP.

Deep down every one of these turn coats will know when it mattered they ran. No courage. No backbone. Cowards
 
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GEO and Jang Group delegation meeting with Jahangir Tareen? GEO's delegation put their hands on Jahangir Tareen's feet and apologized for the programs done in the past.
A promise not to discuss the future Sugar scandal???
Someone say, someone tell???
 
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