J&K gets 10% of Central funds with only 1% of population

[Homo Sapiens]

Perhaps the middle man took all of that money ?
if what mentioned is true then we would hardly see anyone fightng, they woud have jobs, good housing, in their own province state

Actually most of this money spent on keeping 700,000 Indian forces in Kashmir.

 

[MKC]

PURE and utter BS by india. Most of these money spent for demography change project in Kashmir - settling hindus from other parts of india to Kashmir, as way of tilting the balance. And if indians are allowed to do that for some more years they will call the referendum once hindus and non-Muslim become majority.

There is law that when a person settles in Delhi he can't become another resident of Kashmir.
Talking about Kashmiri pundits?
That money is different.

Stop pampering Kashmiris. Provide employment opportunities to Kashmiris. Bring them into Indian mainstream. If Kashmiri has nothing better to do they take the employment opportunities by the separatists as stone pelters

You think people will start working?
Why they leave school in teen age?

wait, Rs.1.14lakh crores @67.5/USD is only about $16B; Over a 16 year period that's only $1B a year. Doesn't sound like that excessive a grant.

Yes if UP is not getting as much as J&K is that is disproprtionate but then UP does not have Pakistani border

There is difference between 12.5 million & 20 times of that.
Even last year announced fund was more than ₹15 lakh crore or more than $25B.

Yes, India is investing all these funds/money/budget to finance 800.000 soliders to occupy Jammu & Kashmir, its not cheap to feed a so large army.

India is spending money on bullets, gunns and other weapons used on innocent Kashmiri (pakistani) people.

These funds are not spent on the welfare for Kashmiri people.

Which means all of your annual development budget of $10B also go for Zarb-e-azab.

Actually most of this money spent on keeping 700,000 Indian forces in Kashmir.

You think money given to J&K state govt?
Will you give back some part of BD to me?
As that is allocated to you but be a kind person like J&K state govt & give that to your forefather again while I have needed.
My friend, there is always difference between defence budget & development grant.
In India, even Ministry of Railway won't give money to Ministry of Transportation...
& you are talking about giving development money of JK state to defence ministry/home ministry of India or JK police.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

My friend, there is always difference between defence budget & development grant.

Development grant also could be used to the benefit of army indirectly.Suppose J&K govt. spent developmental aid to construct a highway or other infrastructure which will be crucial for the use of Army or Army's use consideration influenced their decision to spent the grant money in certain ways.

 

[MKC]

Development grant also could be used to the benefit of army indirectly.Suppose J&K govt. spent developmental aid to construct a highway or other infrastructure which will be crucial for the use of Army or Army's use consideration influenced their decision to spent the grant money in certain ways.

FYI, highway & road development work are carried out in each state by Ministry of Highway & Shipping as National Highways project are solely carried by Ministry of Highway & Shipping and rural roads also by central govt through PMGSY under Ministry of Highway & Shipping.

However, state govt can make any road, expressway in the state but do you think if these were given state govts will use their money. HW some use & make roads & expressways.
J&K govt too makes roads. MoD also make roads in border areas but through own budget or by JV.
All railway projects under Ministry of Railway.
Army is just a user of infrastructure like anyone other & pays tax for using it.

 

[X-2.]

Eh? Is this sentence supposed to make some sense? Or you deliberately wrote gibberish to befuddle me?

Typing error
U don't need to be operative to see the obvious
Even now it won't make any sense to u
Bottom line is ,dont cheat wd the truth

 

[Nilgiri]

Actually most of this money spent on keeping 700,000 Indian forces in Kashmir.

Don't open your mouth about something you have no clue about.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

That's y Assam Bihar Nagaland Kashmir Punjab etc all want freedom from extremist Hindu nation

Thank you very much for this REVELATION ; we did not know that

 

[footmarks]

PURE and utter BS by india. Most of these money spent for demography change project in Kashmir - settling hindus from other parts of india to Kashmir, as way of tilting the balance. And if indians are allowed to do that for some more years they will call the referendum once hindus and non-Muslim become majority.

I wish that could be true. Kashmiris can freely settle anywhere in India, but other states' people cannot become permanent residents in Kashmir, bad deal.

 

[Hellfire]

Perhaps the middle man took all of that money ?
if what mentioned is true then we would hardly see anyone fightng, they woud have jobs, good housing, in their own province state

Been saying that for sometime, only if between the rants on either side somebody listens!! The bloody nexus of politicians on both sides and separatists is humungous.

And that is why have been saying that people in Kashmir want jobs .. they aren't interested in India, Pakistan or azadi .. only those who have jobs and food on their tables are the ones who have this luxury to argue.

@Joe Shearer we have another thread of interest here.

 

[X-2.]

Thank you very much for this REVELATION ; we did not know that

If u think ur comments are bossy and u r being rockstar try again

 

[Hellfire]

Yes, India is investing all these funds/money/budget to finance 800.000 soliders to occupy Jammu & Kashmir, its not cheap to feed a so large army.
.

Make it 8000000000 .... lol

give me a breakdown how you quote that figure or shut up labelled a liar.

This is perfect time to give more autonomy to J&K. They need to answer their own problems. Centre cannot fund state government's misadventures. Not anymore.
If autonomy is given, they would be forced to raise their own revenues, ensure development to earn more tax money, and more over reform of their redundant industrial laws by Kashmiris themselves to pay the loans obtained from central government.

What more autonomy? They have all the powers they need under Article 370 to run the administration effectively. Central government does not make any laws for them.

Yet the SOBs have managed to run the state into ground.

This is the war of ideology which we seem to be loosing at present. Ordinary Kashmiri in Srinagar seems to be stuck on destabilizing the narrative of development.

We are loosing it because of ill informed and stupid rants by Indian members here who mix up article 370 and who label anyone who tries to get them on correct understanding as traitor or imperfect indian.

PURE and utter BS by india. Most of these money spent for demography change project in Kashmir - settling hindus from other parts of india to Kashmir, as way of tilting the balance. And if indians are allowed to do that for some more years they will call the referendum once hindus and non-Muslim become majority.

Another BS by @idune .. stop making a dune of your BS. Demographic change is being done by your siblings from BD who are coming to Kashmir as daily wage earners .. I was surprised to find one of them (a muslim) working for a vegetable shop in Kupwara!!!!

 

[PARIKRAMA]

@waz @WAJsal @WebMaster @mods
Can you folks please move this thread to appropriate section..

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I don't see any need of this topic in this section.

Secondly for God's sake if ppl want to quote and say 1.3 billion population in India is in armed forces and is in J&K then pls go ahead..

Everyday it's inching towards a million kind of figure.. no consistency at all..

You all folks should get a life.. J&K is not the only thing the whole country try is bothered about.. this obsession does nt yield any results.. move on and find some other point and other topic to use your talents..

 

[Hellfire]

we should infra projects other than the few pockets near srinagar where people are creating problems,everytime these people travel out of srinagar they should see the development.lets not waste money where its not appriciated,lets divert those funds to rest of the state.

Its not under you - the funding. It is under the State Government who are Kashmiris!!!!

They themselves are out to screw the state ... they have a great understanding with separatists ... keep state underdeveloped, promote population explosion, project lack of funds from India and poor trade (whereas they have exempted utilities payment and give highly cheap rates of Interest under J&K Bank to people in kashmir, clearly indicating a healthy financial tax and revenue generation as also state of central grants), and become rich on funding from all over the world in the name of 'azadi' and fool the common kashmiri who struggles to get food on table like all of us along the same line.

@punit you nailed it in #29

Development grant also could be used to the benefit of army indirectly.Suppose J&K govt. spent developmental aid to construct a highway or other infrastructure which will be crucial for the use of Army or Army's use consideration influenced their decision to spent the grant money in certain ways.

You have no idea of finance and budget ... extra funding for the emergent defence needs are taken under supplementary grants .. the records are available for public perusal. They will give an overall figure and not a breakdown of the funds being allocated.

Only the strategic forces budget and budget of special forces/intelligence services is not available separately and is covered by a mix of defence budget-supplementary grant-home ministry grants.

Now post references for your figure of 700,000 and this crap or be labelled a liar like your country mate @idune who gave a figure of 800,000

 

[Hellfire]

@Rain Man The Delusion Inc is not aware of the government in Assam, nor of the Naga Accord as finally settled with NSCN-IM. NSCN-K will be dealt with by the IM on its own along with IA in conjunction with AR.

Let him rant. His country is soon going to understand extremism.

 

[dray]

@Rain Man The Delusion Inc is not aware of the government in Assam, nor of the Naga Accord as finally settled with NSCN-IM. NSCN-K will be dealt with by the IM on its own along with IA in conjunction with AR.

Let him rant. His country is soon going to understand extremism.

Even if they were aware, that wouldn't change a thing. Our neighbours on both sides of the border love to dwell in conspiracy theories and false propaganda, and prefer to live in denial. Just for example, how many times that 700000 (or 800000) troops propaganda has been debunked here with details? Do you see any change?