J-20 vs F-22

[localoca]

Ok guys, nobody has make a thread like this, so I would like to be the first one..

we all know China will not attac U.S.A, but we never now if and when U.S.A attac China, so how would 200 F-22 fair against 300+ fully operational J-20 in our home turf(J-20 Air Space), there will be no surprice attack as the J-20 would be alerted of the impending dog fight..

 

[amalakas]

How will the J-20 be alerted on a dog-fight?

even if the J-20 is as LO as the F-22.. what has that got to do with the radar the j-20 will have onboard?

how do you know the radar on the j-20 will be able to pick up the F-22?

how will the F22vsJ20 go.. who knows ?

 

[gubbi]

Ok guys, nobody has make a thread like this, so I would like to be the first one..

we all know China will not attac U.S.A, but we never now if and when U.S.A attac China, so how would 200 F-22 fair against 300+ fully operational J-20 in our home turf(J-20 Air Space), there will be no surprice attack as the J-20 would be alerted of the impending dog fight..

Ha ha, this is going to be fun! J20 fanbois are going to have a field day!! Begin!

 

[qwerrty]

f22 is light year ahead of all the fith gen paper planes.

 

[localoca]

f22 is light year ahead of all the fith gen paper planes.

the J-20 its a reality,
China its the second nation in the world to have fly tested a REAL stealth plane(unlike the T-50), heck Europe its Light years away from even a paper 5th gen plane...

How will the J-20 be alerted on a dog-fight?

do you think, saddam hussein was not aware that a can of whoop was coming his way..

even if the J-20 is as LO as the F-22.. what has that got to do with the radar the j-20 will have onboard?

it will have an powerful LPI AESA, but that's not what this vs thread about, its about the possibility of a Dog fight of 2 LO air craft, one having the advantage of being in court yard(air space), you see in oder to detect the J-20 any aircraft would have to be realy close, that will only mean that a WVR dogfight will ensue..

how will the F22vsJ20 go.. who knows ?

that's why this thread was opened for...

 

[farhan_9909]

F-22 king of stealth.Better radar,TVC,

J-20 More payload and more range.more agile also.

 

[cross1993]

The war between the 5G fighters, It is to destroy each other's airports and aircraft carrier.

 

[ViXuyen]

what is the expected reasonable RCS of J-20 to begin with? the J-20 must have a very small RCS like the F-22 or the J-20 must have a very powerful radar (more powerful than the IRBIS-E that can pick up object of 0.01 m2 at 96 km) to pick up the Raptor before it can launch its missile.

5th gen fighter all comes down to stealth and having the ability to launch your missile before your opponent can detect you. Your plane must have very small RCS to reduce the range of it being detected or very powerful radar to detect VLO planes.

 

[akinkhoo]

J20 will win if it has home and number advantage. it has been simulated by the US before, the fact that the F22 has to fly to and back will limit the number of strike it can do, they are not fighting static targets, the US simple do not have the numbers(200 is not enough) to cover an area the size of China. in order for US to have have success, it must use F15, F18, F16 (and F35) in numbers in combination to the F22.

the US and China would never be dumb enough to only engage with 5G. any air war will be a battle of attrition using 4G fighters while conserving the 5G fighter. the problem with stealth fighter is they carry less missiles than traditional fighters, they can never win in a battle of numbers, they depend on the cannonfodders to keep the other side busy while they do their thing.

 

[localoca]

what is the expected reasonable RCS of J-20 to begin with?.

I expect the J-20 to have the RCS of the F-117 and that its just good enough to guarantee a close knife Dog fight between the world's super fighter...

 

[Chogy]

We will send our YF-23's in as well. The YF-23 has flown more than the J-20...

 

[zheng]

China is forced to weapons development, weapons of the world so advanced in some countries, such a big threat to China, only R \u0026amp; D arms against! China\u0026#39;s weapons development is also beneficial to the world, at least for some countries the implementation of hegemony is a kind of deterrent!

 

[localoca]

We will send our YF-23's in as well. The YF-23 has flown more than the J-20...

that is why I said, fully operational, by 2025...

China is forced to weapons development, weapons of the world so advanced in some countries, such a big threat to China, only R \u0026amp; D arms against! China\u0026#39;s weapons development is also beneficial to the world, at least for some countries the implementation of hegemony is a kind of deterrent!

Dude you lost me at forced...

 

[Pfpilot]

We will send our YF-23's in as well. The YF-23 has flown more than the J-20...

Chogy,
I have read in the past that the YF-23 was the superior plane when compared to the YF-22, but wasn't picked due to political reasons. Is there any amount of truth to that?

 

[gubbi]

...
it will have an powerful LPI AESA, but that's not what this vs thread about, its about the possibility of a Dog fight of 2 LO air craft, one having the advantage of being in court yard(air space), you see in oder to detect the J-20 any aircraft would have to be realy close, that will only mean that a WVR dogfight will ensue..

For all the malarky thats being spouted on such threads, I ask you a very simple question. You talk of a dog fight, right? What use is an LPI AESA in a dogfight? Does the J-20 carry guns? If yes, please post the details of that particular gun which the J-20 carries.

If you dont know this, or if there is no information on this very basic aspect, then all the "information" on which you would want to assess its advantages over the F-22 or even the T-50 is all BS. You all fanbois know nothing and whatever you all would post is BS from Planet Uranus!


ps: Can the J-20 do a backflip hatchet throw?