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P-51 is better than LCA MKI II III ```XX :cheesy:

then buy it immediately from america:p:tongue::blah::lol::rofl:

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Please don't compare that Old 4th gen french tech to the Chinese J-20 which is a tech that Nobody(aside from the USA ofcourse) has match, Russia is Years if not decades away from Chinese 5th gen tech, the French are so behind its not even funny...:disagree:

J-20 5th Gen tech is the best...:china:

drink coca cola fanboy
 
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Care to show some sources, buddy? Nowhere on any article does it say anything about the Rafale having a cloaking device.
Even if it did, then the US would have it. Since the US doesn't, it seriously impedes your claim.
A 'cloaking device'...:lol:...Not only does the PLA have dedicated Photochop Battalion, there now is a unit dedicated to using Star Trek terminologies to reel in the gullible.
 
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A 'cloaking device'...:lol:...Not only does the PLA have dedicated Photochop Battalion, there now is a unit dedicated to using Star Trek terminologies to reel in the gullible.

Troll...:disagree: just because the U.S.A is behind China in Metamaterials does not mean that the Cloaking device are not being tested as we speak...

here have some read
Cloaking device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China is so far ahead of U.S.A in Metamaterials its not even funny no more...:china:

here more read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial_cloaking
 
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Troll...:disagree: just because the U.S.A is behind China in Metamaterials does not mean that the Cloaking device are not being tested as we speak...

here have some read
Cloaking device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

China is so far ahead of U.S.A in Metamaterials its not even funny no more...:china:

here more read
Metamaterial cloaking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And where in the given link says US is behind..????

The second link is full of american institutes doing research.
 
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Can you link it here?
Sure => http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/53000-what-wrong-rafale-2.html

But we can also take a look at the latest claim...As highlighted below...

Speaking of target resolution, there is a report that Chinese universities are testing a new "radar cloaking" device that can essentially make the enemy see what the radar operator wants them to see and to hide what needs to be hidden. For example, they can make a fighter jet appear as a bird on radar or simply make something disappear even when it's still there.

In radar detection, these are the basic items INSIDE a single radar pulse TRAIN that tell us that there is a valid target...

- Freq (wavelength)
- Amplitude
- Pulse width
- Pulse repetition freq (PRF)
- Pulse repetition interval (PRI)

Frequency and amplitude are self explanatory. Pulse width is the duration of a pulse inside a pulse train. A 'pulse train' mean exactly what the word 'train' imply: a series of <something> . You cannot ignore the 'train' as it is vital for any analysis of an incoming signal.

There is a crucial distinction between the PRF and the PRI in radar detection:

- The 'pulse repetition freq' (PRF) is how many pulses per time unit.

- The 'pulse repetition interval' (PRI) is that space between the BEGINNING of one pulse to the BEGINNING of the next pulse, regardless of the pulse width. Or between the END of one pulse to the END of the next pulse. In other words, the PRI is either leading-to-leading or trailing-to-trailing, but never trailing-to-leading or leading-to-trailing.

An incoming signal bounced off the aircraft. That deflected signal made the aircraft into an 'emitter' or 'illuminator' or several other words but they all describe the same thing: a transmitter. In other words, as long as a body produce a signal be it deliberate or accidental, that body is a transmitter.

If you can deliberately manipulate the above pulse train characteristics, in theory, you can create a radar echo of any size you want. But in order to present that impression, you must know the values of those characteristics before you can produce an echo with at least similar values. If you want to appear larger, you must add power to your transmission. If you want to appear smaller, you must somehow negate (cancel) some (or all) of the seeking signal.

Before you can produce a deception 'echo', which we know is not a true deflected signal, you must have a sample of that pulse train. Obvious enough, no? You cannot know the PRI if all you sampled was only two pulses. You cannot know the PRF unless you know the time gaps between pulse trainS (plural). The time gap between pulse trains is not the same as the time gaps between pulses inside a train. The analogy is the gaps between cars on a locomotive. We can see those gaps clearly enough. So the best sampling -- before you can produce a deception signal -- is to include several pulse trains.

But what if the seeking radar employ 'PRF jittering'? Internet keywords search here...

Pulse repetition freq (PRF) jittering is a technique where the seeking radar will alter the PRF inside a pulse train in order to compensate for certain background clutter situations and against signal analyses methods in ECM suites. The seeking radar will know the 'jittering' pattern inside said pulse train. The seeking radar will change that pattern from train to train. What if the seeking radar employ frequency agility from pulse to pulse inside said pulse train? How about amplitude agility?

The variations are quite literally endless and the burden of memory is upon YOU, not the seeking radar. All the enemy has to do is remember the characteristics of the immediate train and be on the alert for an echo with similar characteristics, change those characteristics on the next train, and so on. On the other hand, you cannot afford the luxury of the chance that the enemy will not repeat those same characteristics at any time. You have to remember them after your samplings, assuming you were fortunate enough to have a valid sampling, to immediately produce a deception 'echo' of similar pulse train characteristics.

What is claimed by your pal sounds awfully similar to the SPECTRA active cancellation method. The SPECTRA will be effective against second and third tier air forces, not against US.
 
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The second link is full of american institutes doing research.
I know, but its not like China will give away it secrets...;)


What is claimed by your pal sounds awfully similar to the SPECTRA active cancellation method. The SPECTRA will be effective against second and third tier air forces, not against US.

...:blah: dude please cut the crap...:disagree:
 
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A 'cloaking device'...:lol:...Not only does the PLA have dedicated Photochop Battalion, there now is a unit dedicated to using Star Trek terminologies to reel in the gullible.

Yes, a "Star TreK" that is being studied at Nanjing University and will most likely reshape air combat in the next few decades. Replace "gullible" with "denial" and you'll have an accurate statement that generally describes why the CIA's prediction of the J-20 was 15 years off. :-)

BTW, the Photoshop Battalion seems to be building a fighter jet that Carlo Kopp says to be superior to the F-35 from Lockheed.

Seems like your Ego Regiment and Denial Brigade is falling behind. :disagree:
 
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J 10 and j 11 will be there backbone for 25 years to come the j 20 will NOT be produced in large enough numbers and the pak fa is just another flanker with frontal stealth. And the snowy owel dose not exist 5 th gen will soon be overlooked by 6 th in example f/a xx for the us navy I feel 5 th gen will be short :)
 
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J 10 and j 11 will be there backbone for 25 years to come the j 20 will NOT be produced in large enough numbers and the pak fa is just another flanker with frontal stealth. And the snowy owel dose not exist 5 th gen will soon be overlooked by 6 th in example f/a xx for the us navy I feel 5 th gen will be short :)

Uh, no.

The J-16, J-17, and J-19 (stealthy variants of the J-11B) will be the backbone while the J-20 will also be a main striking force.
The J-10B will also be the backbone for air defense fighters while JH-7B will be the backbone for strike fighters.

The above information was exposed by a military insider.

And Snow Owl does exist, as confirmed by CCTV.
 
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CCTV the same news that use top gun footage the propaganda is strong in this one yes love the Internet insiders there always so accurate.
 
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CCTV the same news that use top gun footage the propaganda is strong in this one yes love the Internet insiders there always so accurate.

In case you haven't noticed (or is unable to do so), the broadcast information of the exercise was 100% accurate. The 1-second footage was for entertaining gullible and naive-minded people much like you, and your posts proved it to be effective at doing so.

Yes, the military insiders have been correct every time so far, which is much more accurate than Rupee News which copies and pastes its information from online blogs.

Great "free" media you got there, Reever. :rolleyes:
 
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Oh, a forum as your source?
Let us see if you can follow...

I did said to look up my explanations for the French version of it and you will learn something new, like making reasonably supported arguments.
Can you link it here?
Got that...??? The 'it' mean 'my explanations', not any third party sources.

Seems like the guy who's such an advocate of "reliable sources" has fallen short of his own standards. :rolleyes:
I will put up my sources and standards against any of you Chinese boys' any day.
 
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Yes, a "Star TreK" that is being studied at Nanjing University and will most likely reshape air combat in the next few decades. Replace "gullible" with "denial" and you'll have an accurate statement that generally describes why the CIA's prediction of the J-20 was 15 years off. :-)

BTW, the Photoshop Battalion seems to be building a fighter jet that Carlo Kopp says to be superior to the F-35 from Lockheed.

Seems like your Ego Regiment and Denial Brigade is falling behind. :disagree:
As much as I respect Kopp, the man has never worked in the aviation industry. His crowd over at APA is a self appointed 'think-tank', not any organization that is endowed or actually earned any accolades for their...eerrr...'research'...or...aahhh...'development'. It is not lost on the readers that you have no rebuttal against what I explained to be a possible replication of the French's SPECTRA system.
 
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