It's Time to Kick Erdogan's Turkey Out of NATO

[alarabi]

Actually, Turkey doesn't need this useless coalition while USA supports terrorist militia such as YPG.

 

[New World]

Rand Paul? Mr. Conspiracy nut, himself?

Not to mention the fact that unlike Paul, I am happy to post literally, dozens of authoritative reports of Pakistan's, the ISI, Pak Army's long, long, history of terrorists ties. Perhaps you should worry about your own country's history and actions before criticizing others. It takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah for a Pakistani to castigate America in that regard.

yes, once upon time these terrorists were the chief guests in White house...

 

[Desertfalcon]

yes, once upon time these terrorists were the chief guests in White house...

ISIS were guest in the White House? Well, then I'm sure you should have no problem at all proving that fact with some evidence.

I am again, willing to post literally dozens of authoritative links with evidence of Pakistan's deep ties with militant "terrorists" groups, of ISI's intimate involvement with them, of the Pak Army's cooperation with them so I say again, before you criticise someone else's country on that score, perhaps you should look to your own.

 

[New World]

ISIS were guest in the White House? Well, then I'm sure you should have no problem at all proving that fact with some evidence.

I am again, willing to post literally dozens of authoritative links with evidence of Pakistan's deep ties with militant "terrorists" groups, of ISI's intimate involvement with them, of the Pak Army's cooperation with them so I say again, before you criticise someone else's country on that score, perhaps you should look to your own.

you get it wrong..
we never supported ISIS and we will never support ISIS..
I'm talking about Taliban aka Mujahideen, Burhanudin Haqqani and other taliban Leaders were in the Oval office to meet with president Ronald Reagan..
and there is full history how Charlie Wilson support taliban..

 

[HAIDER]

Pot, meet kettle...

Ex-Pakistani Ambassador: My Country Supports Terrorism - Bloomberg View

Guys was ex spokesman of Pakistani mullah party. JI, later join PMLN and PPP. Now clean the beard and act like " franky goes to hollywood " ...

 

[Desertfalcon]

I'm talking about Taliban aka Mujahideen, Burhanudin Haqqani and other taliban Leaders were in the Oval office to meet with president Ronald Reagan..
and there is full history how Charlie Wilson support taliban..

Yes, there is and who was the even BIGGER partner in that alliance?

Riedel: The war against the Soviets in Afghanistan was run by Zia, not by us | Foreign Policy

Understanding Pakistan's Pro-Taliban Afghan Policy on JSTOR

Inter-Services Intelligence activities in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"It is widely agreed that after Hekmatyar failed to take over power in Afghanistan, the ISI helped to found the Afghan Taliban. The ISI in conjunction with other parts of the Pakistan military subsequently provided financial, logistical, military and direct combat support to the Taliban until the September 11 attacks of 2001."

The ISI’s Great Game in Afghanistan | The Diplomat

"During the Soviet-Afghan War – during which American arms were shipped into Afghanistan through the ISI – Pakistani spymasters channeled funds and arms into the hands of their favorite militant groups, often the most retrogressive and extremist of the Mujahedeen."

And Pakistan still is!

ISI arming and training us, claim ‘Taliban commanders’ - The Express Tribune

NATO Report Claims Pakistan's ISI Still Behind Taliban in Afghanistan | TIME.com

WikiLeaks and the ISI-Taliban nexus | Peter Galbraith | Opinion | The Guardian

The key to solving the puzzle of Afghanistan is Pakistan - The Washington Post

And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

 

[New World]

Yes, there is and who was the even BIGGER partner in that alliance?

Riedel: The war against the Soviets in Afghanistan was run by Zia, not by us | Foreign Policy

Inter-Services Intelligence activities in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"It is widely agreed that after Hekmatyar failed to take over power in Afghanistan, the ISI helped to found the Afghan Taliban. The ISI in conjunction with other parts of the Pakistan military subsequently provided financial, logistical, military and direct combat support to the Taliban until the September 11 attacks of 2001."

The ISI’s Great Game in Afghanistan | The Diplomat

"During the Soviet-Afghan War – during which American arms were shipped into Afghanistan through the ISI – Pakistani spymasters channeled funds and arms into the hands of their favorite militant groups, often the most retrogressive and extremist of the Mujahedeen."

And Pakistan still is!

ISI arming and training us, claim ‘Taliban commanders’ - The Express Tribune

NATO Report Claims Pakistan's ISI Still Behind Taliban in Afghanistan | TIME.com

WikiLeaks and the ISI-Taliban nexus | Peter Galbraith | Opinion | The Guardian

NATO Report Claims Pakistan's ISI Still Behind Taliban in Afghanistan | TIME.com

And I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

I'm again saying YES we did support Taliban and it is an open secret.. there is nothing which i should have to deny.. it's an open secret and everybody knows about that..

CIA's roll in Afghan war..

Operation Cyclone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Charlie Wilson (Texas politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anatomy of a Victory: CIA’s Covert Afghan War — Global Issues

Afghanistan: Lessons from the Last War

Afghanistan, the CIA, bin Laden, and the Taliban

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html

U.S. Foreign Policy in Perspective - Node 19 - Soviet Union

and the List will go on ON ON ON ON ON ON ON

 

[T-123456]

1. Continued persistence and support of Muslim refugees into Europe

Continued for how long,its going on for 5/6 years and nothing happened yet,so when?

2. Aggression or genocide against Kurds/Armenians or Greeks

I would understand if you kept it with Kurds,but what have Armenians and Greeks to do with this?

Maybe you should read your own post,again and again,to see if it makes any sense to you,are you retarded or something?
Since you brought up Greeks and Armenians who have nothing to do with this,im sure you are ether Greek or Armenian,maybe both?

 

[Desertfalcon]

I'm again saying YES we did support Taliban and it is an open secret.. there is nothing which i should have to deny.. it's an open secret and everybody knows about that..

CIA's roll in Afghan war.

Then you will have to explain to me why you keep posting! This started with you responding to my saying, "Pot, meet kettle". In other words, I am fully, totally, and completely, aware of my country's involvement with the Afghan mujahideen. My whole point was in arguing that it is ridiculous and the hight of hypocrisy for any Pakistani to criticize my country on that point when YOUR country was and still is by all accounts, deeply involved in supporting those same groups! Do you just not get that?

 

[mingle]

Rand Paul? Mr. Conspiracy nut, himself?

Not to mention the fact that unlike Paul, I am happy to post literally, dozens of authoritative reports of Pakistan's, the ISI, Pak Army's long, long, history of terrorists ties. Perhaps you should worry about your own country's history and actions before criticizing others. It takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah for a Pakistani to castigate America in that regard.

He is only white brother of Hussain Haqqani .

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

Putin is succeeding in breaking up the pot in Europe and middle east.Look what he have achieved step by step
1. Reengage with China and try to open up new front for US in Pacific and build a distrust between China and USA
(Achieved)
2. Break the total monopoly of USA in middle east. (Achieved) Big time trust deficit between US and its Gulf allies
3. Promote Iran to challenge US interest in middle east and China also plays a role here.
4. Divide NATO. Already happening with people calling for removal of Turkey from NATO and next will be Greece. The front line against Russia.
5. Make Europe realize that every country in Europe cant be united as was the idea of EU. And we see European Union running into constant problem.
On the other hand Russia is loosing only on economic front which can be achieved by making sure Asad stays because he will be owing Russians big time.
Cold war alliance of USA/Europe/Middle east/South Asia/Pacific is shaking. It started with Bill Clinton making a Uturn on its old allies.

 

[New World]

Then you will have to explain to me why you keep posting! This started with you responding to my saying, "Pot, meet kettle". In other words, I am fully, totally, and completely, aware of my country's involvement with the Afghan mujahideen. My whole point was in arguing that it is ridiculous and the hight of hypocrisy for any Pakistani to criticize my country on that point when YOUR country was and still is by all accounts, deeply involved in supporting those same groups! Do you just not get that?

and why we should not criticize US, creating and mishandling of terrorists by US has almost burn entire MENA region. and your saying that we should not criticize whom who calls himself Sheriff of the world..

 

[Desertfalcon]

and why we should not criticize US, creating and mishandling of terrorists by US has almost burn entire MENA region. and your saying that we should not criticize whom who calls himself Sheriff of the world..

Because it would be completely hypocritical when Pakistan's hands are dripping with the blood of it's terrorist allies, those it has had deep ties with, supported and still supports. You still just don't get that!

Pakistani support for extremists persists | Asia | DW.COM | 29.04.2013

Pakistan: "The Taliban's Godfather"?

 

[damm1t]

Everybody claims that Turkey supports ISIS but how funny it's that nobody can prove it

 

[KN-1]

Pot, meet kettle...

Ex-Pakistani Ambassador: My Country Supports Terrorism - Bloomberg View

Hussain Haqqani no more represent Pakistan.. he is on Indian payroll.... he daily sit on Indian media and curse Pakistan...