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It’s time India stops blaming Pakistan for every terror attack on its soil

Excellent rhetoric, but that what is is relegated to. we wish you all the best for your growth and reforms, how about getting rid of militants released from hijacking of IC814 who are thriving in Pakistan?

We are not trying to burn our neighbors house if you are linking it with Kashmir stance of Pakistan brother since dogra raj these unfortunate people struggling since that time and Kashmir was a very much part of partition agenda but unfortunately British succeeded in divide and rule policy once more, since then both nations suffering from this. It is India who take this issue to UN and should act on UN resolutions.
And if talking about Pathankot what we will get from this tell me our military is busy and in final stages of operations against TTP and others. Our projects just started, economy just in first phase of recovering why we want to derail all achievement tell me? These kind of braindead people easily available in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan everywhere (I mentioned India because as per recent reports many Indian Muslims want to join ISIS) may fell into the hands of those handlers who use them for money and these morons unknowingly gives their lives, they can attack anywhere on anything Masjid, Mandir or Gurudawara even Church. Look at third hands who don't want peace because it is not in their interests. I hope sane Indian knows this and they should raise voice for that, may one day we jointly act on these morons by sharing intelligence reports.
Regards,
 
bhai we have to bash Pakistan at least once daily otherwise we are not considered enough patriots.:lol: now that my today's quota is fulfilled we can have meaningful debate. :D
before saying there is no difference between yours and ours extremism we should consider our respective definition extremism.



Extremism for me is in our genes, subcontinent people are full of emotions, they get easily exploited, easily manipulated, and easily fooled, they need a reason be it religious conservatism or liberal thinking and living and they will invent the mentality to go extremist. The basic theme is same but paths followed and means to accomplish goals are different and culture has its impacts too. I am sure provided the same opportunities to your society it will yield the same results may be even bigger in magnitude.
 
Lets see if this government has any balls to do something, or it displays the exact same traditional spinelessness of UPA. It's appeasement policy seems exactly the same.

Instead of warmongering, you guys need to pay heed to saner voices (which are very few) in India.
 
Excellent rhetoric, but that what is is relegated to. we wish you all the best for your growth and reforms, how about getting rid of militants released from hijacking of IC814 who are thriving in Pakistan?
A sad thing we should handover him to India back but again as per Pakistani Law and courts there is no criminal case registered against him in Pakistan but most of the time he remain under house arrest. A sad thing at that time India should demand him back I don't know why at that time they don't raise this issue.
A big problem for us who prevent Pakistani authorities to act against these peoples is Kashmir sympathy they always get away with that we should solve this issue for ever to eliminate this excuse, this is good for both nations.
If he was involve in attacks in India Govt of Pakistan should arrest him and sentence for his crimes.
 
If Pakistan has guts to accept the reality, Pakistan too can become a positive progressive nation. But duniya ' Bhens ke saamne been bja rhi hai'. I think Pakistan will not understand. They think they have best foreign policy that can beat and can make fool every nation. Keep it up Pakistan. Good
 
Excellent rhetoric, but that what is is relegated to. we wish you all the best for your growth and reforms, how about getting rid of militants released from hijacking of IC814 who are thriving in Pakistan?
As long as india is illegaly occupying Kashmir these groups will always have the reason to recruit more and more and this can go on for another 1000 years, so if india really wants peace in this region then the ball is in their court
 
A sad thing we should handover him to India back but again as per Pakistani Law and courts there is no criminal case registered against him in Pakistan but most of the time he remain under house arrest. A sad thing at that time India should demand him back I don't know why at that time they don't raise this issue.
A big problem for us who prevent Pakistani authorities to act against these peoples is Kashmir sympathy they always get away with that we should solve this issue for ever to eliminate this excuse, this is good for both nations.
If he was involve in attacks in India Govt of Pakistan should arrest him and sentence for his crimes.
You do realize one of the terrorist who was released on the account of iC814 beheaded Daniel Pearl? but wait pakistan did not prosecute him but handed him over to US. So the precedent is right there in front of you set by your government.
 
You do realize one of the terrorist who was released on the account of iC814 beheaded Daniel Pearl? but wait pakistan did not prosecute him but handed him over to US. So the precedent is right there in front of you set by your government.
US is at least Govt level consider it ally against war in terror and unfortunately Indian doesn't enjoy ally status, so I believe a big no for handover thing but culprits must be punished to prevail the peace.
 
As long as india is illegaly occupying Kashmir these groups will always have the reason to recruit more and more and his can go on for another 1000 years, so if india really wants peac in this region then the ball is in their court

You are defeating the purpose of thread unintentionally, but sure keep sending these "freedom fighter" and we will keep dying. no one including our own government gives a rats a$$ about us.

US is at least Govt level consider it ally against war in terror and unfortunately Indian doesn't enjoy ally status, so I believe a big no for handover thing but culprits must be punished to prevail the peace.
very noble thought,but unhinged from reality, anyways i have stoped caring quite a long time ago. my despondency is not from Pakistan's actions but the shortsightedness and incompetence of India's own policy.

Instead of warmongering, you guys need to pay heed to saner voices (which are very few) in India.
warmongering?
opposite of appeasement is not war. i have always held the view that this not the time for engagement, rather disengage, and stop interfering with each other. if there is any chance for peace, both sides need to shut up and engage with countries which actually want to engage.
 
very noble thought,but unhinged from reality, anyways i have stoped caring quite a long time ago. my despondency is not from Pakistan's actions but the shortsightedness and incompetence of India's own policy.
Now a days many Indian want strong military action against Pakistan but Indian Govt didn't do or plan any may be they know something they don't share with common Indians that Pakistani Govt or military no direct or indirect involved or behind these attacks but to calm down people of India and to put pressure on Pakistan to act against non state actors specially working for Kashmir cause they make anti Pakistan statements.
 
Now a days many Indian want strong military action against Pakistan but Indian Govt didn't do or plan any may be they know something they don't share with common Indians that Pakistani Govt or military no direct or indirect involved or behind these attacks but to calm down people of India and to put pressure on Pakistan to act against non state actors specially working for Kashmir cause they make anti Pakistan statements.

rest assured there will be no action against Pakistan. period, doesn't matter if there is mumbai, or solders mutilated or whatever nightmare one can imagine. The government of India has shown it doesn't have the stomach to fight. That is a given.
The fact is we are cowards who elect cowards and then they show there cowardice in every aspect of governance.

Another member said something about Kashmir, it wouldn't be a bad option if try a Op Gibraltor, if you take kashmir now, i don't the India will be able to do anything. If anything it will solve Kashmir problem forever.
 
rest assured there will be no action against Pakistan. period, doesn't matter if there is mumbai, or solders mutilated or whatever nightmare one can imagine. The government of India has shown it doesn't have the stomach to fight. That is a given.
The fact is we are cowards who elect cowards and then they show there cowardice in every aspect of governance.

Another member said something about Kashmir, it wouldn't be a bad option if try a Op Gibraltor, if you take kashmir now, i don't the India will be able to do anything. If anything it will solve Kashmir problem forever.
Sorry I blame media who entice anti Pakistan feelings in common Indian that is really hurting at least in past people are more neutral as compared to current situation, India Govt or army is not coward but they know something which I mentioned before. anyways my feelings with you, I myself as much hurt as a common Indian because it is potential to cause more damage to Pakistan as compared to India.
Regards,
 
Extremism for me is in our genes, subcontinent people are full of emotions, they get easily exploited, easily manipulated, and easily fooled, they need a reason be it religious conservatism or liberal thinking and living and they will invent the mentality to go extremist. The basic theme is same but paths followed and means to accomplish goals are different and culture has its impacts too. I am sure provided the same opportunities to your society it will yield the same results may be even bigger in magnitude.
no according to me tolerance is in our genes. we have lived together(Hindus and Muslims) for thousand years. and most of those years we lived peacefully. most of subcontinent people are very tolerant and sane. if it wasn't then shia and other minorities wouldn't have survived in Sunni majority Pakistan. and Muslims and other minorities wouldn't have survived in Hindu majority India. apart from very few exceptions minorities in both countries is doing very fine.
extremism in sub- continent is not religion base. the only source of extremism is Kashmir issue. solve Kashmir issue and you will see both India and Pakistan will become best friends. According to me Pakistan supporting Kashmir is not because of Kashmiri Muslims, it is because Kashmir is strategically very important for Pakistan and for India also. Pakistan's whole water comes from Kashmir it gives land connectivity to your best friend and ally.
and both India and Pakistan can not let go Kashmir. as long as there is Kashmir issue extremism will flourish in sub-continent. For Pakistani it will be Indians oppressing Kashmiris. and for Indians it will be Pakistani illegally occupying our country. and as India and Pakistan are Hindu and Muslim majority respectively religious hatred is bound to emerge.
 
so internet forums determine mentality of a nation, quite brilliant, compute the traffic to forum you refer to, and determine the % of populace it represents, i am sure the number will surprise you.
And miind well this is the same nation that ensured around 55K of pow combatants safely to your nation. If the mentality was to drop bombs on civilians, would those POW's return, especially when bangladeshis were out for blood.
I never said that every indian has this extreme mentality or they are representative of all indians but these indian members are surely voice of extremist mindset . I was just comparing the member on boht forums. I dont think any moderator here will allow any such comment where members talk about killing civilians or justify killing of lil children. There are many indian members active in boht defence forums but they dont express such thought here as openly as they do over there which is sad and hypocrisy. You can watch debate on your indian channels after pathan kot incident and see that people like ex raw agent mahroof raza talking very much in same tone
 

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