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M109L

Under a contract dated 30 June 2015, Pakistan Army is receiving surplus M109L self propelled howitzers from Italy since last year. The data has been collected from pak.eximtradeinfo.com website, which maintains an import database. The exporter has been reported as Leonardo Defence Systems.

Deliveries reported:

10x M109L arrived on 13 May 2017

9x M109L arrived on 27 May 2017

20x M109L arrived on 6 November 2017

26x M109L arrived on 28 March 2018
 
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M109L

Under a contract dated 30 June 2015, Pakistan Army is receiving surplus M109L self propelled howitzers from Italy since last year. The data has been collected from pak.eximtradeinfo.com website, which maintains an import database. The exporter has been reported as Leonardo Defence Systems.

Deliveries reported:

10x M109L arrived on 13 May 2017

9x M109L arrived on 27 May 2017

20x M109L arrived on 6 November 2017

26x M109L arrived on 28 March 2018
Can you share the link of the news
 
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M109L

Under a contract dated 30 June 2015, Pakistan Army is receiving surplus M109L self propelled howitzers from Italy since last year. The data has been collected from pak.eximtradeinfo.com website, which maintains an import database. The exporter has been reported as Leonardo Defence Systems.

Deliveries reported:

10x M109L arrived on 13 May 2017

9x M109L arrived on 27 May 2017

20x M109L arrived on 6 November 2017

26x M109L arrived on 28 March 2018

does that mean the new tender for SP guns is invalid? 65 SP guns is not bad I suppose these will be updated by Pakistan bit like Mirages are by PAF. Keeps cost down and arty numbers up.
 
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does that mean the new tender for SP guns is invalid? 65 SP guns is not bad I suppose these will be updated by Pakistan bit like Mirages are by PAF. Keeps cost down and arty numbers up.
are these guns better than A5?
 
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are these guns better than A5?
I am not sure but wisdom leads me to believe, Things on all of these supposed outdated guns can be updated. From Barrel to all forms of mechanical and electronic systems from possibly Turkey's indigenous systems they use on their own SP guns.

'If' that is the case then it is big bang for small buck.
 
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does that mean the new tender for SP guns is invalid? 65 SP guns is not bad I suppose these will be updated by Pakistan bit like Mirages are by PAF. Keeps cost down and arty numbers up.
No that will continue but if we would keep getting M-109 at very low prices we would keep inducting them and also upgraded
 
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M109L is basically M109A2/A3 with an Italian made 155 mm/39 caliber barrel. Italy has 221 M109L's. Pakistan also had 150+ M109A-2's but they were upgraderd to A-5 standards. I hope these M109L's will also be upgraded to A-5 standards.
M109A2s were NOT upgraded to A5s,
Both exist in the inventory separately, and were inducted as such.
 
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does that mean the new tender for SP guns is invalid?

Wheeled SPH tender is active.

I am not sure but wisdom leads me to believe, Things on all of these supposed outdated guns can be updated. From Barrel to all forms of mechanical and electronic systems from possibly Turkey's indigenous systems they use on their own SP guns.

'If' that is the case then it is big bang for small buck.

This is a boost to the artillery. With the delivered pieces, 1 new artillery brigade can be raised. There are many companies including Rheinmetall offering upgrade of old M109s with new 52 cal. gun.

Note that the exact number of M109L's Pakistan is to receive is not known, so more deliveries in the coming months are a possibility. Italy had 283 pcs, 10 were delivered to Djibouti (which I think are the 52 cal. examples).

@Signalian @Ulla @HRK @django @Starlord
 
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