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Italian member of the European Parliament Alessandra Mussolini holds a banner during a voting session on Dec. 16, 2014, that reads "Free marines," referring to two Italian marines who have been held in an Indian jail since 2012

ROME and NEW DELHI — Italy has blocked India’s application to join a key missile and UAV technology control committee in protest of India’s arrest of two Italian Marines suspected of shooting dead Indian fishermen.
Italy's veto of India’s entry into the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), which counts 34 member states and was set up in 1987, was not supported by any other member and defies US ambitions to get India admitted to the club.
The diplomatic spat occurred in Rotterdam at the Oct. 5-9 plenary meeting of the group, whose members agree to work to stop the proliferation of missile and UAV technology capable of carrying a 500-kilogram payload for at least 300 kilometers.
Decisions to admit new members must be approved unanimously, which allowed Italy to block India’s entry.
“Italy was not ready to give its consensus to India’s application,” a source familiar with events at the meeting said.
The source added that members were aware that Italy’s decision was linked to the arrest of the Marines. “It didn’t come up,” he said, “but it was the subtext, everyone knew.”
The two Italian Marines, Massimiliano Latorre and Salvatore Girone, were guarding an Italian cargo ship off the Indian coast in 2012 when an Indian fishing boat approached. The Marines claim they fired warning shots, which went unheeded, and they were later arrested and held by Indian authorities for shooting dead two of the fishermen on board.
The case has dragged on, with the Hamburg-based International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea becoming involved this year, while Italian politicians have lambasted the Italian government for being unable to free them. According to an official account of the MTCR meeting, “Partners exchanged views on issues relating to future membership. Individual applications for membership were thoroughly discussed. The membership issue will continue to be on the agenda.”
“While India failed to receive consensus support for its entry to the Missile Technology Control Regime this month,” an official of the Indian Ministry of External Affairs said, “India’s application was received well and it remains under consideration.”
India formally submitted an application in June with active support from member nations the US and France. US President Obama first made his support known for India’s entry during his visit to the country in 2010.
Originally founded by Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the UK and the US, the MTCR has since grown to include South Korea, Russia, Brazil, Turkey and Ukraine.
The Rotterdam meeting was chaired by Dutch ambassador at large Piet de Klerk, who will head the group this year on behalf of the Netherlands and Luxembourg.
Italy has itself fallen afoul of the MTCR. In 2009, it sought to offer the United Arab Emirates unmanned vehicle technologies, a deal that was attached to the sale of M-346 jet trainers to the Arabian Gulf state. When the UAV deal was deemed to fall outside the limits imposed by MTCR rules, the jet trainer sale collapsed, too.
In Rotterdam this month, India was not the only country whose entry was not agreed on unanimously.
“There is a list of new candidates,” the source said. Among them, he said, were the nine EU members not yet inside the group: Croatia, Cyprus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia.
“The EU is pushing all members to become members of this group and three other groups,” the source said — the Nuclear Suppliers Group, which seeks to limit the spread of nuclear weapons; the Australia Group, which limits chemical weapons; and the Wassenaar Arrangement, a group of 41 states limiting the use of conventional weapons.
“The argument for bringing in the other EU members to the MTCR is that there is a risk that products could be transported there from an MTCR member under the EU’s free market rules before they are subsequently exported,” the source said. “On the other hand, one could argue the EU’s export policies should stop such exports anyway. This was discussed at the meeting.”
Italy’s veto of India’s entry follows the drawn-out entanglement between the two countries over allegations of corruption surrounding the sale of 12 Italian AW101 helicopters to India in 2010 for €560 million (US $639.2 million).
Giuseppe Orsi, the former CEO of Italian group Finmeccanica, was jailed and tried in Italy, prompting India to cancel the contract. But even after Orsi was acquitted last year, India’s anti-fraud agency, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), continued its own probe.
Now, properties belonging to brothers of a former Indian Air Force chief, S.P. Tyagi, who were alleged to have been involved in the payoffs, have been seized. A New Delhi court last month, following a request from the CBI, issued a warrant for the arrest of British consultant Christian Michel James, who is alleged to have been involved in the helicopter deal.
But the case could take years before it reaches any conclusion, given the slow track record of India’s investigating agencies.

 
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India should put a ban on all imports from Italy - let them feel the heat. Would love to see how many of their EU counterparts like France and Germany stick of them.

Olive Dagos are getting annoying
 
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there is no added advantage in becoming a party to MTCR ..... things happen for good...:agree:
19. What benefits do Partners get by becoming members of the MTCR?
Partners can play an active role in curbing the global missile non-proliferation threat. MTCR Partners participate in decision-making on the orientation and future of the MTCR, thereby setting the international standard for responsible missile non-proliferation behaviour and helping to guide the international missile non-proliferation effort. Partners also benefit from discussions and exchanges of information on licensing, interdiction, best practices, and cooperate to impede specific shipments of concern with regards to missile proliferation

The Missile Technology Control Regime

It also removes obstacles for us get help to build our own unmanned drones. I suspect our agenda for wanting MTCR is AURA.
 
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India only has to deal with the old fox called USA here.

Banning imports from Italy is a good idea.

No matter how they trumpet Democracy, west always try to downplay east.
 
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Lucky India didn't go for the Eurofighter then.
Eurofighter was absolute worst choice.its a joint programme of three countries and any conflict with any one could have ended our hope to get certain parts in future.
 
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India should put a ban on all imports from Italy - let them feel the heat. Would love to see how many of their EU counterparts like France and Germany stick of them.

Olive Dagos are getting annoying
yea, I feel this is a symptom of Asian members, if the Western G7 don't fear China and Russia, they definately don't fear India. No offense.

Eurofighter was absolute worst choice.its a joint programme of three countries and any conflict with any one could have ended our hope to get certain parts in future.
How can you possibly come into conflict with Britain, France, Germany or even the US.
 
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yea, I feel this is a symptom of Asian members, if the Western G7 don't fear China and Russia, they definately don't fear India. No offense.


How can you possibly come into conflict with Britain, France, Germany or even the US.
not exactly military conflict,but imagin situation like marine problem could escalate to embargo or some other measure to pressure india.if there plane is one of our main fighter,then we would have to do as they wish.
 
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More reason we would stay away from eurofighter typhone and wont not touch its offer document even with 10 ft pole.
 
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Give the Italians a counter offer. Life sentence to the marines if Italy blocks India's Entry into MTCR, if Italy allows India's entry, then only 14 years imprisonment.
 
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India must immediately protest and send her navy to teach Italians a lesson.
No wonder quality of postings has hit rock bottom when so call tin-tanks start trolling. The worse fact is that it did not involve pakistan or kashmir. No wonder why europeans created artificial pakistan , another accessory to continue the divide & rule in Asia.

yea, I feel this is a symptom of Asian members, if the Western G7 don't fear China and Russia, they definately don't fear India. No offense.


How can you possibly come into conflict with Britain, France, Germany or even the US.
Agreed its disunity among asians that gives them power. If asians settle the matter among themselves westerners would be out of business.
 
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India must immediately protest and send her navy to teach Italians a lesson.

Nah..its just Butthurt from Italy..

The case is now being fought in ITLOS,due to Italy moved into it.yet here we are,a diplomat is holding "Free Marine" banner.The reason is either ignorance or they fear they're going to lose the case.

They'll lose the case and more drama will continue over it.
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